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Larry B 07-16-2004 11:50 AM

95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
symptoms (both times on the freeway).

As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the light did
not return.

What are your thoughts? Thanks,

Larry

(95 Odyssey- 104k miles)




motsco_ _ 07-17-2004 11:46 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
Larry B wrote:
> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>
> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the light did
> not return.
>
> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>
> Larry
>
> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)




++++++++++++++++++

Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?

No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?

'Curly'



Larry B 07-18-2004 03:13 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> Larry B wrote:
> > In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
> > symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >
> > As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the light

did
> > not return.
> >
> > What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)

> ++++++++++++++++++
>
> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>
> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>
> 'Curly'
>
>

Hi Curly,

Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net there
seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups or
a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it is
only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions regarding
reading the MIL flashes-

1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something that
Auto Zone would have for me to use?

2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition switch??

Thanks, Larry



E. Meyer 07-18-2004 04:18 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
<hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:

>
> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>> Larry B wrote:
>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>
>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the light

> did
>>> not return.
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)

>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>
>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>>
>>

> Hi Curly,
>
> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net there
> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups or
> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it is
> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions regarding
> reading the MIL flashes-
>
> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something that
> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>
> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition switch??
>
> Thanks, Larry
>
>

Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for the
SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove box,
just behind the bottom edge of the dash.


Larry B 07-19-2004 12:22 AM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> >> Larry B wrote:
> >>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
> >>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >>>
> >>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the

light
> > did
> >>> not return.
> >>>
> >>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
> >> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> >> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
> >> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
> >>
> >> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
> >>
> >> 'Curly'
> >>
> >>

> > Hi Curly,
> >
> > Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

there
> > seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups

or
> > a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

is
> > only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

regarding
> > reading the MIL flashes-
> >
> > 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something

that
> > Auto Zone would have for me to use?
> >
> > 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> > instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

switch??
> >
> > Thanks, Larry
> >
> >

> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

the
> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

box,
> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>

I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or seen
the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??

Lar



E. Meyer 07-19-2004 10:43 AM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
<hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:

>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>> Larry B wrote:
>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>
>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the

> light
>>> did
>>>>> not return.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>
>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>
>>>> 'Curly'
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Curly,
>>>
>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

> there
>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups

> or
>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

> is
>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

> regarding
>>> reading the MIL flashes-
>>>
>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something

> that
>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>
>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

> switch??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Larry
>>>
>>>

>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

> the
>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

> box,
>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>

> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or seen
> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>
> Lar
>
>

On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
the other end and that will be the SCS connector.

To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The codes
range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the FSM
for you.

To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.



E. Meyer 07-19-2004 10:43 AM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
<hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:

>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>> Larry B wrote:
>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>
>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the

> light
>>> did
>>>>> not return.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>
>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>
>>>> 'Curly'
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Curly,
>>>
>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

> there
>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups

> or
>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

> is
>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

> regarding
>>> reading the MIL flashes-
>>>
>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something

> that
>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>
>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

> switch??
>>>
>>> Thanks, Larry
>>>
>>>

>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

> the
>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

> box,
>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>

> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or seen
> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>
> Lar
>
>

On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
the other end and that will be the SCS connector.

To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The codes
range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the FSM
for you.

To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.



motsco_ _ 07-19-2004 01:24 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
Larry B wrote:
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
>>On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>>6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink .net, "Larry B"
>><hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>>news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>
>>>>Larry B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>>symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>
>>>>>As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
>>>>

> light
>
>>>did
>>>
>>>>>not return.
>>>>>
>>>>>What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>(95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>>codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
>>>>overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>
>>>>No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>
>>>>'Curly'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Curly,
>>>
>>>Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

>>

> there
>
>>>seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups

>>

> or
>
>>>a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

>>

> is
>
>>>only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

>>

> regarding
>
>>>reading the MIL flashes-
>>>
>>>1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something

>>

> that
>
>>>Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>
>>>2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>>instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

>>

> switch??
>
>>>Thanks, Larry
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

>
> the
>
>>SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

>
> box,
>
>>just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>

>
> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or seen
> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>
> Larry


============================
Larry,

There's two service leads under the edge of the (large) glove box.
They're plugged into a 'dummy' connector to keep them in place.

BTW, what shape is the tranny fluid in, and when was it changed
(completely)? The slow lock-up fault sounds like a good hint. :-)

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 07-19-2004 01:24 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
Larry B wrote:
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>
>>On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>>6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink .net, "Larry B"
>><hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>>news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>
>>>>Larry B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>>symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>
>>>>>As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
>>>>

> light
>
>>>did
>>>
>>>>>not return.
>>>>>
>>>>>What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>(95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>>codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap, or
>>>>overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>
>>>>No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>
>>>>'Curly'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Curly,
>>>
>>>Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

>>

> there
>
>>>seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter lock-ups

>>

> or
>
>>>a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

>>

> is
>
>>>only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

>>

> regarding
>
>>>reading the MIL flashes-
>>>
>>>1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that something

>>

> that
>
>>>Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>
>>>2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>>instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

>>

> switch??
>
>>>Thanks, Larry
>>>
>>>

>>
>>Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

>
> the
>
>>SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

>
> box,
>
>>just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>

>
> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or seen
> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>
> Larry


============================
Larry,

There's two service leads under the edge of the (large) glove box.
They're plugged into a 'dummy' connector to keep them in place.

BTW, what shape is the tranny fluid in, and when was it changed
(completely)? The slow lock-up fault sounds like a good hint. :-)

'Curly'


Larry B. 07-19-2004 06:15 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> > news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
> >> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> >>>> Larry B wrote:
> >>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
> >>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the

> > light
> >>> did
> >>>>> not return.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> >>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

or
> >>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
> >>>>
> >>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Curly'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hi Curly,
> >>>
> >>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

> > there
> >>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

lock-ups
> > or
> >>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

> > is
> >>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

> > regarding
> >>> reading the MIL flashes-
> >>>
> >>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

something
> > that
> >>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
> >>>
> >>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> >>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

> > switch??
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Larry
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

> > the
> >> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

> > box,
> >> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
> >>

> > I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

seen
> > the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
> >
> > Lar
> >
> >

> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
>
> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

codes
> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the

FSM
> for you.
>
> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
>

Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the ECU,
where is that?

Thanks, Larry



Larry B. 07-19-2004 06:15 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> > news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
> >> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> >>>> Larry B wrote:
> >>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
> >>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the

> > light
> >>> did
> >>>>> not return.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
> >>>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> >>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

or
> >>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
> >>>>
> >>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
> >>>>
> >>>> 'Curly'
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hi Curly,
> >>>
> >>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net

> > there
> >>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

lock-ups
> > or
> >>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it

> > is
> >>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions

> > regarding
> >>> reading the MIL flashes-
> >>>
> >>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

something
> > that
> >>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
> >>>
> >>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> >>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition

> > switch??
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Larry
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for

> > the
> >> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove

> > box,
> >> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
> >>

> > I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

seen
> > the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
> >
> > Lar
> >
> >

> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
>
> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

codes
> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the

FSM
> for you.
>
> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
>

Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the ECU,
where is that?

Thanks, Larry



E. Meyer 07-19-2004 06:35 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
On 7/19/04 5:15 PM, in article
aKXKc.8541$Qu5.8537@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B."
<gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote:

>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
>> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
>>> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>>>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>>>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>>>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>>>> Larry B wrote:
>>>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
>>> light
>>>>> did
>>>>>>> not return.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

> or
>>>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Curly'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Curly,
>>>>>
>>>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net
>>> there
>>>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

> lock-ups
>>> or
>>>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it
>>> is
>>>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions
>>> regarding
>>>>> reading the MIL flashes-
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

> something
>>> that
>>>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition
>>> switch??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for
>>> the
>>>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove
>>> box,
>>>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>>>
>>> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

> seen
>>> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>>>
>>> Lar
>>>
>>>

>> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
>> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
>> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
>> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
>>
>> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
>> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

> codes
>> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the

> FSM
>> for you.
>>
>> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
>> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
>> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
>>

> Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the ECU,
> where is that?
>
> Thanks, Larry
>
>


It blinks the check engine light.



E. Meyer 07-19-2004 06:35 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 
On 7/19/04 5:15 PM, in article
aKXKc.8541$Qu5.8537@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B."
<gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote:

>
> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
>> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
>>> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
>>>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
>>>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
>>>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
>>>>>> Larry B wrote:
>>>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without any
>>>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
>>> light
>>>>> did
>>>>>>> not return.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
>>>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

> or
>>>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Curly'
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Curly,
>>>>>
>>>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net
>>> there
>>>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

> lock-ups
>>> or
>>>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As it
>>> is
>>>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions
>>> regarding
>>>>> reading the MIL flashes-
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

> something
>>> that
>>>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
>>>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition
>>> switch??
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Larry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute for
>>> the
>>>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the glove
>>> box,
>>>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
>>>>
>>> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

> seen
>>> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
>>>
>>> Lar
>>>
>>>

>> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for the
>> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
>> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming out
>> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
>>
>> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key to
>> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

> codes
>> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in the

> FSM
>> for you.
>>
>> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
>> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up (Radio)"
>> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
>>

> Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the ECU,
> where is that?
>
> Thanks, Larry
>
>


It blinks the check engine light.



Larry B 07-19-2004 09:38 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD21B6DC.8D8A4%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 7/19/04 5:15 PM, in article
> aKXKc.8541$Qu5.8537@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B."
> <gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> > news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
> >> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >>>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
> >>>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >>>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> >>>>>> Larry B wrote:
> >>>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without

any
> >>>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
> >>> light
> >>>>> did
> >>>>>>> not return.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Larry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> >>>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

> > or
> >>>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Curly'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Curly,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net
> >>> there
> >>>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

> > lock-ups
> >>> or
> >>>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As

it
> >>> is
> >>>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions
> >>> regarding
> >>>>> reading the MIL flashes-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

> > something
> >>> that
> >>>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> >>>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition
> >>> switch??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute

for
> >>> the
> >>>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the

glove
> >>> box,
> >>>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
> >>>>
> >>> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

> > seen
> >>> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
> >>>
> >>> Lar
> >>>
> >>>
> >> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for

the
> >> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
> >> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming

out
> >> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
> >>
> >> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key

to
> >> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

> > codes
> >> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in

the
> > FSM
> >> for you.
> >>
> >> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
> >> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up

(Radio)"
> >> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
> >>

> > Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the

ECU,
> > where is that?
> >
> > Thanks, Larry
> >
> >

>
> It blinks the check engine light.
>
>

OK, I did it.

It blinked 4 times slowly, followed by 3 times quickly.... 43??

Does that mean fuel supply system??



Larry B 07-19-2004 09:38 PM

Re: 95 Ody Intermittent Check Engine Light
 

"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BD21B6DC.8D8A4%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 7/19/04 5:15 PM, in article
> aKXKc.8541$Qu5.8537@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B."
> <gitridaspam@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> > news:BD214857.8D639%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >> On 7/18/04 11:22 PM, in article
> >> 40IKc.7003$mL5.5054@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
> >>> news:BD20453D.8D4F9%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> >>>> On 7/18/04 2:13 PM, in article
> >>>> 6ZzKc.7387$Qu5.2788@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.n et, "Larry B"
> >>>> <hatespam@hatespam.gov> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:40F9F2A4.5060500@interbaun.com...
> >>>>>> Larry B wrote:
> >>>>>>> In the last 2 weeks the Check Engine Light came on twice without

any
> >>>>>>> symptoms (both times on the freeway).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As soon as I shut the engine off and turned it right back on, the
> >>> light
> >>>>> did
> >>>>>>> not return.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What are your thoughts? Thanks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Larry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (95 Odyssey- 104k miles)
> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Larry, your car isn't OBDII compliant, but you can read the 'flash
> >>>>>> codes' yourself...(do a google search). Have you lost your gas cap,

> > or
> >>>>>> overfilled (intentionally) in the last while?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No sign of misfire / plugged air filter / overheating?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 'Curly'
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Curly,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Naw, everything seems ok. Gas cap, misfire, etc, are OK. On the net
> >>> there
> >>>>> seems to be a lot of discussion about 4th gear torque converter

> > lock-ups
> >>> or
> >>>>> a longer than 1.5 second lock up tripping the ck engine light. As

it
> >>> is
> >>>>> only happening at freeway speeds, it is suspicious. Two questions
> >>> regarding
> >>>>> reading the MIL flashes-
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. For 95, I need to hook up the SCS check connector. Is that

> > something
> >>> that
> >>>>> Auto Zone would have for me to use?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2. The SCS service connector is located under the right side of the
> >>>>> instrument panel. Does that mean under the dash below the ignition
> >>> switch??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks, Larry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Traditionally, a bent paper clip is used as a functional substitute

for
> >>> the
> >>>> SCS check connector. The connector is under the left edge of the

glove
> >>> box,
> >>>> just behind the bottom edge of the dash.
> >>>>
> >>> I am definately up for paper clip technology. Since I haven't used or

> > seen
> >>> the SCS check connector, anything I need to know??
> >>>
> >>> Lar
> >>>
> >>>
> >> On the '96 (I assume '95 will be similar), there is a a receptacle for

the
> >> connector mounted to the back of the dash. Just look for a two pin
> >> connector plugged into a receptacle that doesn't have any wires coming

out
> >> the other end and that will be the SCS connector.
> >>
> >> To make it blink out a code, you short the connector, then turn the key

to
> >> the run position (warning lights on, but don't start the engine). The

> > codes
> >> range from 1 to 86. Let me know what you get and I'll look it up in

the
> > FSM
> >> for you.
> >>
> >> To reset it (and clear the codes), turn the key to OFF, remove the SCS
> >> connector (paper clip), and pull the 7.5 amp fuse marked "Back up

(Radio)"
> >> in the underhood fuse box for 10 seconds.
> >>

> > Will it blink out the code on the ck engine light or on the ECU? If the

ECU,
> > where is that?
> >
> > Thanks, Larry
> >
> >

>
> It blinks the check engine light.
>
>

OK, I did it.

It blinked 4 times slowly, followed by 3 times quickly.... 43??

Does that mean fuel supply system??




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