'95 Odyssey Reliability
I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles.
Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the Odyssey. - Phil |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
"Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses and moving that out of my driveway. Regards The Artful Codger The Artful Codger |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
"Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses and moving that out of my driveway. Regards The Artful Codger The Artful Codger |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
"Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses and moving that out of my driveway. Regards The Artful Codger The Artful Codger |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
"Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses and moving that out of my driveway. Regards The Artful Codger The Artful Codger |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
In article <fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51>, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil Phil, I advise you to trade it in on a new or used vehicle that is newer. Run a carfax on any used vehicle that you plan to buy. You will have to decide on the brand. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
In article <fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51>, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil Phil, I advise you to trade it in on a new or used vehicle that is newer. Run a carfax on any used vehicle that you plan to buy. You will have to decide on the brand. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
In article <fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51>, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil Phil, I advise you to trade it in on a new or used vehicle that is newer. Run a carfax on any used vehicle that you plan to buy. You will have to decide on the brand. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
In article <fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51>, "Phil"
<p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > Odyssey. > > - Phil Phil, I advise you to trade it in on a new or used vehicle that is newer. Run a carfax on any used vehicle that you plan to buy. You will have to decide on the brand. |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I am pretty sure it isn't a Chrysler van, as I had one of those and it was
worse! - Phil "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:hulub.31014$j1d.6234@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? > > Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" > vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses > and moving that out of my driveway. > > Regards > The Artful Codger > The Artful Codger > > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I am pretty sure it isn't a Chrysler van, as I had one of those and it was
worse! - Phil "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:hulub.31014$j1d.6234@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? > > Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" > vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses > and moving that out of my driveway. > > Regards > The Artful Codger > The Artful Codger > > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I am pretty sure it isn't a Chrysler van, as I had one of those and it was
worse! - Phil "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:hulub.31014$j1d.6234@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? > > Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" > vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses > and moving that out of my driveway. > > Regards > The Artful Codger > The Artful Codger > > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I am pretty sure it isn't a Chrysler van, as I had one of those and it was
worse! - Phil "Artfulcodger" <mcbat@rogers.com> wrote in message news:hulub.31014$j1d.6234@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com... > > "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51... > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > Are you sure that isn't a Chrysler van? > > Seriously whether or not a "bad" year it sounds like a "bad" > vehicle. Only a personal opinion but were it me I would be cutting my losses > and moving that out of my driveway. > > Regards > The Artful Codger > The Artful Codger > > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt,
and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the quality of work is beyond reproach. I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for maintenance. Tell me how! - Phil "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... > On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" > <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > > Odyssey. > > > > - Phil > > > > > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. > She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your > list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in > Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an > emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. > There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent > about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt > at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). > > I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very > inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt,
and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the quality of work is beyond reproach. I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for maintenance. Tell me how! - Phil "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... > On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" > <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > > Odyssey. > > > > - Phil > > > > > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. > She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your > list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in > Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an > emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. > There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent > about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt > at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). > > I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very > inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt,
and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the quality of work is beyond reproach. I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for maintenance. Tell me how! - Phil "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... > On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" > <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > > Odyssey. > > > > - Phil > > > > > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. > She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your > list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in > Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an > emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. > There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent > about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt > at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). > > I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very > inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt,
and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the quality of work is beyond reproach. I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for maintenance. Tell me how! - Phil "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... > On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" > <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. > > Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle has > > been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van > > seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is > > typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. > > > > Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake pads > > noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil at a > > rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 lbs. > > compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. The > > plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. The > > ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top plastic > > tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. Today, > > the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out yet > > again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket broken > > causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was > > broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The > > transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The heater > > can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever > > (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a key > > to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the > > radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the > > non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good runabout, > > but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought > > would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it has > > been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I have > > had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with the > > Odyssey. > > > > - Phil > > > > > > I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k miles. > She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your > list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common in > Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an > emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. > There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent > about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing belt > at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). > > I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a very > inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I do all the work myself. My time is free (just ask my wife). The only
money spent is on materials - oil, filters, transmission fluid, antifreeze, spark plugs (got one set free because of the emissions recall), one half set of brake pads (fronts at 60k, rears lasted to 117k), timing belt & water pump. Well -- I forgot about tires, so add another $380. I put Michelin X-Ones on it when the original tires wore out just shy of 50,000 miles. The X-Ones were still good when my daughter took it over at 95k. And of course, I didn't count gas, but that's not maintenance. On 11/18/03 9:29 PM, in article 8sBub.244488$Fm2.247878@attbi_s04, "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt, > and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the > shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle > boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and > some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken > motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, > that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only > moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was > told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't > think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the > quality of work is beyond reproach. > > I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of > that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? > Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could > drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for > maintenance. Tell me how! > > - Phil > > "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message > news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... >> On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" >> <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. >>> Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle > has >>> been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van >>> seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is >>> typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. >>> >>> Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake > pads >>> noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil > at a >>> rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 > lbs. >>> compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. > The >>> plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. > The >>> ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top > plastic >>> tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. > Today, >>> the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out > yet >>> again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket > broken >>> causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was >>> broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The >>> transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The > heater >>> can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever >>> (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a > key >>> to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the >>> radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the >>> non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good > runabout, >>> but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought >>> would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it > has >>> been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I > have >>> had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with > the >>> Odyssey. >>> >>> - Phil >>> >>> >> >> I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k > miles. >> She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your >> list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common > in >> Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an >> emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. >> There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent >> about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing > belt >> at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). >> >> I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a > very >> inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. >> > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I do all the work myself. My time is free (just ask my wife). The only
money spent is on materials - oil, filters, transmission fluid, antifreeze, spark plugs (got one set free because of the emissions recall), one half set of brake pads (fronts at 60k, rears lasted to 117k), timing belt & water pump. Well -- I forgot about tires, so add another $380. I put Michelin X-Ones on it when the original tires wore out just shy of 50,000 miles. The X-Ones were still good when my daughter took it over at 95k. And of course, I didn't count gas, but that's not maintenance. On 11/18/03 9:29 PM, in article 8sBub.244488$Fm2.247878@attbi_s04, "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt, > and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the > shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle > boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and > some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken > motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, > that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only > moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was > told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't > think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the > quality of work is beyond reproach. > > I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of > that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? > Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could > drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for > maintenance. Tell me how! > > - Phil > > "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message > news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... >> On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" >> <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. >>> Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle > has >>> been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van >>> seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is >>> typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. >>> >>> Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake > pads >>> noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil > at a >>> rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 > lbs. >>> compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. > The >>> plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. > The >>> ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top > plastic >>> tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. > Today, >>> the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out > yet >>> again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket > broken >>> causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was >>> broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The >>> transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The > heater >>> can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever >>> (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a > key >>> to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the >>> radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the >>> non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good > runabout, >>> but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought >>> would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it > has >>> been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I > have >>> had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with > the >>> Odyssey. >>> >>> - Phil >>> >>> >> >> I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k > miles. >> She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your >> list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common > in >> Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an >> emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. >> There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent >> about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing > belt >> at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). >> >> I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a > very >> inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. >> > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I do all the work myself. My time is free (just ask my wife). The only
money spent is on materials - oil, filters, transmission fluid, antifreeze, spark plugs (got one set free because of the emissions recall), one half set of brake pads (fronts at 60k, rears lasted to 117k), timing belt & water pump. Well -- I forgot about tires, so add another $380. I put Michelin X-Ones on it when the original tires wore out just shy of 50,000 miles. The X-Ones were still good when my daughter took it over at 95k. And of course, I didn't count gas, but that's not maintenance. On 11/18/03 9:29 PM, in article 8sBub.244488$Fm2.247878@attbi_s04, "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt, > and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the > shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle > boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and > some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken > motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, > that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only > moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was > told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't > think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the > quality of work is beyond reproach. > > I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of > that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? > Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could > drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for > maintenance. Tell me how! > > - Phil > > "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message > news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... >> On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" >> <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. >>> Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle > has >>> been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van >>> seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is >>> typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. >>> >>> Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake > pads >>> noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil > at a >>> rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 > lbs. >>> compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. > The >>> plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. > The >>> ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top > plastic >>> tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. > Today, >>> the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out > yet >>> again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket > broken >>> causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was >>> broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The >>> transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The > heater >>> can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever >>> (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a > key >>> to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the >>> radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the >>> non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good > runabout, >>> but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought >>> would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it > has >>> been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I > have >>> had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with > the >>> Odyssey. >>> >>> - Phil >>> >>> >> >> I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k > miles. >> She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your >> list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common > in >> Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an >> emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. >> There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent >> about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing > belt >> at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). >> >> I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a > very >> inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. >> > > |
Re: '95 Odyssey Reliability
I do all the work myself. My time is free (just ask my wife). The only
money spent is on materials - oil, filters, transmission fluid, antifreeze, spark plugs (got one set free because of the emissions recall), one half set of brake pads (fronts at 60k, rears lasted to 117k), timing belt & water pump. Well -- I forgot about tires, so add another $380. I put Michelin X-Ones on it when the original tires wore out just shy of 50,000 miles. The X-Ones were still good when my daughter took it over at 95k. And of course, I didn't count gas, but that's not maintenance. On 11/18/03 9:29 PM, in article 8sBub.244488$Fm2.247878@attbi_s04, "Phil" <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I went through with the service today, since the tune up, timing belt, > and brakes were the bulk of the cost, and these are expected. I asked the > shop who services Hondas only, about the other items. I was told the axle > boot replacement is normal, with some lasting longer than my 125K miles, and > some less. I was also told about every third van they see has a broken > motor mount! So while I think that is unacceptable, like the ABS failure, > that too is not so uncommon. And the exhaust hanger failure is only > moderately common. I asked about the previously leaking radiator, and was > told the plastic tank Honda uses does not last that long either. I don't > think the shop is pulling my leg, as they have a stellar reputation, and the > quality of work is beyond reproach. > > I don't know how you can have only spent $500 over 95k miles! If most of > that was for the timing belt, what about service intervals every 15k miles? > Oil changes come twice as frequently as that. I don't know how you could > drive any car for 95k miles and spend something well less than $500 for > maintenance. Tell me how! > > - Phil > > "E. Meyer" <e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message > news:BBDF92B0.285D4%e.meyerNOSPAM@ieee.org... >> On 11/17/03 10:27 PM, in article fdhub.177376$ao4.592925@attbi_s51, "Phil" >> <p.mentz@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I just took my '95 Odyssey van in for a major service at 120,000 miles. >>> Since I bought it used at 43,000 miles, the reliability of the vehicle > has >>> been disappointing. Previous Hondas have been pretty good, but this van >>> seems to have all kinds of reliability problems. I wonder if this is >>> typical, or maybe I should get rid of it ASAP. >>> >>> Besides typical maintenance, I have noticed that it goes through brake > pads >>> noticeably faster than my previous '91 Accord. It has always used oil > at a >>> rate much faster than my previous Accord. The engine is sound with 191 > lbs. >>> compression in all cylinders. Otherwise, it has not been impressive. > The >>> plastic door panel cracked on the driver's side, and that is over $400. > The >>> ABS gave up, and that will cost $1000 or so to get fixed. The top > plastic >>> tank on the radiator began leaking, setting me back another $330. > Today, >>> the service people (at a very good shop), said the brakes are worn out > yet >>> again ($135). They also found the "A" pipe exhaust hanger or bracket > broken >>> causing the rattling under the car ($56). One of the motor mounts was >>> broken ($113). The front axle boots are about gone (2 x $119). The >>> transmission has a several second delay before engaging "Drive". The > heater >>> can now never be completely turned off, the temperature control lever >>> (cable) stiffened up, resulting in the lever end breaking off (we use a > key >>> to adjust the temperature now), the wipers never stop chattering and the >>> radio freaks out with static at times. Other than that, and the >>> non-existent power, it is a good vehicle. Seriously, it is a good > runabout, >>> but was '95 a bad year for Hondas? I have a '98 BMW M3 which I thought >>> would cost me a lot in maintenance and be so-so in reliability, but it > has >>> been stone reliable, costs LESS in regular maintenance than any Honda I > have >>> had. Just wondering if I got the short end of the stick this time with > the >>> Odyssey. >>> >>> - Phil >>> >>> >> >> I had a '96 Odyssey from new that I passed down to a daughter at 95k > miles. >> She still has it & is at about 120k miles now. The only problem on your >> list that we had with the '96 is the ABS failure which seems to be common > in >> Hondas of that vintage. If you remember how to pump the brakes in an >> emergency, there is no need to fix it, as the main brakes are unaffected. >> There have been no other maintenance issues with the car. I have spent >> about $500 on it since new, most of which was for replacing the timing > belt >> at 90,000 (obviously we did not replace the ABS). >> >> I think yours must have been abused before you got it, or it lives in a > very >> inhospitable environment. Time for a new car. >> > > |
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