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T. Nelson 02-10-2004 02:10 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <6IqdnTwJsMj_67Xd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!
>
> --Viktor


Viktor,
I read all of the interesting posts on this subject. It appears that some
of the posters believe that you have a bad sensor instead of a problem
with the catalytic converter. I just wanted to add that at this point in
time, you don't know for sure whether the problem is with the catalytic
converter or the sensor. You might want to check out the warranty
information that came with your vehicle. It's possible that your catalytic
converter might still be covered--I'm just guessing. I suggest that you
have your vehicle checked by a mechanic that you trust to determine
whether the catalytic converter or the sensor is the source of the
problem. This is especially true if your state requires a pollution or
emission test each year.

T. Nelson 02-10-2004 02:10 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <6IqdnTwJsMj_67Xd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!
>
> --Viktor


Viktor,
I read all of the interesting posts on this subject. It appears that some
of the posters believe that you have a bad sensor instead of a problem
with the catalytic converter. I just wanted to add that at this point in
time, you don't know for sure whether the problem is with the catalytic
converter or the sensor. You might want to check out the warranty
information that came with your vehicle. It's possible that your catalytic
converter might still be covered--I'm just guessing. I suggest that you
have your vehicle checked by a mechanic that you trust to determine
whether the catalytic converter or the sensor is the source of the
problem. This is especially true if your state requires a pollution or
emission test each year.

T. Nelson 02-10-2004 02:10 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <6IqdnTwJsMj_67Xd4p2dnA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!
>
> --Viktor


Viktor,
I read all of the interesting posts on this subject. It appears that some
of the posters believe that you have a bad sensor instead of a problem
with the catalytic converter. I just wanted to add that at this point in
time, you don't know for sure whether the problem is with the catalytic
converter or the sensor. You might want to check out the warranty
information that came with your vehicle. It's possible that your catalytic
converter might still be covered--I'm just guessing. I suggest that you
have your vehicle checked by a mechanic that you trust to determine
whether the catalytic converter or the sensor is the source of the
problem. This is especially true if your state requires a pollution or
emission test each year.

w_tom 02-10-2004 07:59 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
failed O2 sensor would have.

One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
found.

electricked wrote:
> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!


w_tom 02-10-2004 07:59 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
failed O2 sensor would have.

One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
found.

electricked wrote:
> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!


w_tom 02-10-2004 07:59 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
failed O2 sensor would have.

One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
found.

electricked wrote:
> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!


w_tom 02-10-2004 07:59 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
failed O2 sensor would have.

One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
found.

electricked wrote:
> Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> interesting :)
>
> And again, more information is welcome :)
>
> Thank you all!


electricked 02-10-2004 11:54 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
Hello Tom and Nelson,

The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
just the error code?)

Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.

Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.

THanks!

--Viktor

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40297E75.4ED52A4C@hotmail.com...
> If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
> P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
> the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
> codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
> Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
> failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
> O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
> Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
> failed O2 sensor would have.
>
> One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
> exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
> found.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> > interesting :)
> >
> > And again, more information is welcome :)
> >
> > Thank you all!




electricked 02-10-2004 11:54 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
Hello Tom and Nelson,

The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
just the error code?)

Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.

Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.

THanks!

--Viktor

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40297E75.4ED52A4C@hotmail.com...
> If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
> P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
> the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
> codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
> Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
> failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
> O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
> Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
> failed O2 sensor would have.
>
> One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
> exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
> found.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> > interesting :)
> >
> > And again, more information is welcome :)
> >
> > Thank you all!




electricked 02-10-2004 11:54 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
Hello Tom and Nelson,

The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
just the error code?)

Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.

Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.

THanks!

--Viktor

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40297E75.4ED52A4C@hotmail.com...
> If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
> P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
> the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
> codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
> Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
> failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
> O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
> Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
> failed O2 sensor would have.
>
> One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
> exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
> found.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> > interesting :)
> >
> > And again, more information is welcome :)
> >
> > Thank you all!




electricked 02-10-2004 11:54 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
Hello Tom and Nelson,

The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
just the error code?)

Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.

Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.

THanks!

--Viktor

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40297E75.4ED52A4C@hotmail.com...
> If the Oxygen sensor was bad, then that code number (was it
> P0137?) would have also appeared. Diagnostic procedure for
> the 'bad converter' code says to also verify for additional
> codes such as a 'bad oxygen sensor code'. According to
> Autoworld, no such code existed. Therefore, an O2 sensor
> failure is not a likely reason for this problem. Furthermore,
> O2 sensor failures occur without creating a 'bad TWC' code.
> Whatever has failed had to make gas mixture richer than a
> failed O2 sensor would have.
>
> One additional point. Newsgroups are about information
> exchange. Please reply to this thread when a solution is
> found.
>
> electricked wrote:
> > Once again thanks Yuri! Can't wait to check out your design. Very
> > interesting :)
> >
> > And again, more information is welcome :)
> >
> > Thank you all!




T. Nelson 02-12-2004 03:58 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <_dWdnbsLfd3tBLTdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Tom and Nelson,
>
> The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
> after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
> just the error code?)
>
> Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
> good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
> foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
> my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.
>
> Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.
>
> THanks!


The best way to find a great mechanic is to talk to your co-workers and
friends. At least one or more of them will tell you about a mechanic
that is great. The Honda dealership has excellent mechanincs but you
would have to pay much more to them than you would pay to local mechanics
which is why lots of people don't take their cars to Honda dealerships for
service unless they have newer cars still under warranty.

Of course, the rich people will go to the Honda dealership but most of us
are not part of that group--especially me.

T. Nelson 02-12-2004 03:58 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <_dWdnbsLfd3tBLTdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Tom and Nelson,
>
> The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
> after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
> just the error code?)
>
> Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
> good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
> foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
> my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.
>
> Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.
>
> THanks!


The best way to find a great mechanic is to talk to your co-workers and
friends. At least one or more of them will tell you about a mechanic
that is great. The Honda dealership has excellent mechanincs but you
would have to pay much more to them than you would pay to local mechanics
which is why lots of people don't take their cars to Honda dealerships for
service unless they have newer cars still under warranty.

Of course, the rich people will go to the Honda dealership but most of us
are not part of that group--especially me.

T. Nelson 02-12-2004 03:58 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <_dWdnbsLfd3tBLTdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Tom and Nelson,
>
> The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
> after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
> just the error code?)
>
> Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
> good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
> foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
> my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.
>
> Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.
>
> THanks!


The best way to find a great mechanic is to talk to your co-workers and
friends. At least one or more of them will tell you about a mechanic
that is great. The Honda dealership has excellent mechanincs but you
would have to pay much more to them than you would pay to local mechanics
which is why lots of people don't take their cars to Honda dealerships for
service unless they have newer cars still under warranty.

Of course, the rich people will go to the Honda dealership but most of us
are not part of that group--especially me.

T. Nelson 02-12-2004 03:58 PM

Re: 98 Accord Ex running rich
 
In article <_dWdnbsLfd3tBLTdRVn-sA@comcast.com>, "electricked"
<welcomehowcome@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Tom and Nelson,
>
> The car was running yesterday afternoon and today. It's been running fine
> after the scanner reset the ECU. (Does the code scanner reset the ECU or
> just the error code?)
>
> Can you recommend good mechanics? Firestone is a ripoff. I don't know how
> good of a job they do but their prices are outragous. I'm not stepping a
> foot in there. The other day they asked for $400+ for a set of 4 tires for
> my accord. Couple more hundred and I might as well buy another car.
>
> Anyway, if I find something, I'll let you all know.
>
> THanks!


The best way to find a great mechanic is to talk to your co-workers and
friends. At least one or more of them will tell you about a mechanic
that is great. The Honda dealership has excellent mechanincs but you
would have to pay much more to them than you would pay to local mechanics
which is why lots of people don't take their cars to Honda dealerships for
service unless they have newer cars still under warranty.

Of course, the rich people will go to the Honda dealership but most of us
are not part of that group--especially me.


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