98 civic brakes draggin
 

Hi there,

98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM

I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.

Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.

My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue? Can you get a
rebuild kit for these? I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.

Any other ideas out there?

Thanks
Terry in Winterpeg.

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Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?

yes.

> Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these?

sure - everything is all available online.

> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.

not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.

>
> Any other ideas out there?

for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals.

>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?

yes.

> Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these?

sure - everything is all available online.

> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.

not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.

>
> Any other ideas out there?

for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals.

>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?

yes.

> Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these?

sure - everything is all available online.

> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.

not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.

>
> Any other ideas out there?

for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals.

>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue? Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these? I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
> Any other ideas out there?
>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>
--------------------------------

That's a lot af clicks. It's probably just the sliders. Pull them apart
and lube with the correct lube. See exploded parts diagram at
www.slhondaparts.com.

See also www.tegger.com for extensive instructions for SALTY-roads brake
service.

'Curly' in Edmonton.

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue? Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these? I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
> Any other ideas out there?
>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>
--------------------------------

That's a lot af clicks. It's probably just the sliders. Pull them apart
and lube with the correct lube. See exploded parts diagram at
www.slhondaparts.com.

See also www.tegger.com for extensive instructions for SALTY-roads brake
service.

'Curly' in Edmonton.

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are binding. I
> did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side was dragging some.
>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to full stop,
> there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue? Can you get a
> rebuild kit for these? I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
> Any other ideas out there?
>
> Thanks
> Terry in Winterpeg.
>
--------------------------------

That's a lot af clicks. It's probably just the sliders. Pull them apart
and lube with the correct lube. See exploded parts diagram at
www.slhondaparts.com.

See also www.tegger.com for extensive instructions for SALTY-roads brake
service.

'Curly' in Edmonton.

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote in news:679fc01873bbd@uwe:

> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are
> binding. I did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side
> was dragging some.


Piston stuck.


>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to
> full stop, there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?



Yes. Absolutely. But maybe not the click, That might be something else.



> Can you get
> a rebuild kit for these?



Dealer. Don't mess with aftermarket for this.



I imagine I need new caliper pins and
> sleeves.



You need a new caliper PISTON and hydraulic seal. Replacing the pins and
boots is NOT a "rebuild".

With the caliper off the rotor, step on the pedal enough to eject the
piston about one inch. Each full press of the pedal is worth about
1/16"-1/8" of piston travel. Spray some brake cleaner on the piston boot
to clean off the gunge. Get a blunt instrument of some kind and pull the
boot away from the piston. Is the piston shiny silver inside? Is it
caked with brown and black?


--
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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote in news:679fc01873bbd@uwe:

> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are
> binding. I did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side
> was dragging some.


Piston stuck.


>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to
> full stop, there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?



Yes. Absolutely. But maybe not the click, That might be something else.



> Can you get
> a rebuild kit for these?



Dealer. Don't mess with aftermarket for this.



I imagine I need new caliper pins and
> sleeves.



You need a new caliper PISTON and hydraulic seal. Replacing the pins and
boots is NOT a "rebuild".

With the caliper off the rotor, step on the pedal enough to eject the
piston about one inch. Each full press of the pedal is worth about
1/16"-1/8" of piston travel. Spray some brake cleaner on the piston boot
to clean off the gunge. Get a blunt instrument of some kind and pull the
boot away from the piston. Is the piston shiny silver inside? Is it
caked with brown and black?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

"loewent via CarKB.com" <u10197@uwe> wrote in news:679fc01873bbd@uwe:

> Hi there,
>
> 98 civic LX (canadian) 5spd non-abs. 262000KM
>
> I noticed when I roll to a stop that it feels like the brakes are
> binding. I did the spin check on my wheels, and the front driver side
> was dragging some.


Piston stuck.


>
> Has been exuding a symptom for the past year or so, when I come to
> full stop, there is a loud click that comes from the calipers.
>
> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?



Yes. Absolutely. But maybe not the click, That might be something else.



> Can you get
> a rebuild kit for these?



Dealer. Don't mess with aftermarket for this.



I imagine I need new caliper pins and
> sleeves.



You need a new caliper PISTON and hydraulic seal. Replacing the pins and
boots is NOT a "rebuild".

With the caliper off the rotor, step on the pedal enough to eject the
piston about one inch. Each full press of the pedal is worth about
1/16"-1/8" of piston travel. Spray some brake cleaner on the piston boot
to clean off the gunge. Get a blunt instrument of some kind and pull the
boot away from the piston. Is the piston shiny silver inside? Is it
caked with brown and black?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

" also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals."

Why would new fluid cause that? Should I be looking for a new master
cylinder? Or will this correct itself?

t


jim beam wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?
>
>yes.
>
>> Can you get a
>> rebuild kit for these?
>
>sure - everything is all available online.
>
>> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
>not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.
>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>
>for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
>rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
> also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
>for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
>seals.
>
>> Thanks
>> Terry in Winterpeg.

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Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

" also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals."

Why would new fluid cause that? Should I be looking for a new master
cylinder? Or will this correct itself?

t


jim beam wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?
>
>yes.
>
>> Can you get a
>> rebuild kit for these?
>
>sure - everything is all available online.
>
>> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
>not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.
>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>
>for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
>rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
> also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
>for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
>seals.
>
>> Thanks
>> Terry in Winterpeg.

--
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Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

" also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
seals."

Why would new fluid cause that? Should I be looking for a new master
cylinder? Or will this correct itself?

t


jim beam wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
>> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?
>
>yes.
>
>> Can you get a
>> rebuild kit for these?
>
>sure - everything is all available online.
>
>> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>
>not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.
>
>> Any other ideas out there?
>
>for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
>rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
> also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
>for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
>seals.
>
>> Thanks
>> Terry in Winterpeg.

--
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Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> " also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
> for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
> seals."
>
> Why would new fluid cause that?

my experience is, even with a pressure bleeder that avoids pumping the
master cylinder, master cylinder seals can fail a few weeks after fluid
change if the fluid was previously neglected for a long time.
disassembly shows those seals to be soft and sticky where the rubber has
deteriorated. i think that when coming into contact with new fluid,
which contains rubber conditioners, old previously contaminated seals
just can't cope with their new chemical environment.

> Should I be looking for a new master
> cylinder?

wait and see. you may be fine. i just mentioned it because it can be
frustrating to do major work on one end of the system only to find the
other end needs doing a few weeks later.

> Or will this correct itself?

time will tell!

>
> t
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?
>> yes.
>>
>>> Can you get a
>>> rebuild kit for these?
>> sure - everything is all available online.
>>
>>> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>> not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.
>>
>>> Any other ideas out there?
>> for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
>> rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
>> also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
>> for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
>> seals.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Terry in Winterpeg.
>

Re: 98 civic brakes draggin
 

loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> " also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
> for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
> seals."
>
> Why would new fluid cause that?

my experience is, even with a pressure bleeder that avoids pumping the
master cylinder, master cylinder seals can fail a few weeks after fluid
change if the fluid was previously neglected for a long time.
disassembly shows those seals to be soft and sticky where the rubber has
deteriorated. i think that when coming into contact with new fluid,
which contains rubber conditioners, old previously contaminated seals
just can't cope with their new chemical environment.

> Should I be looking for a new master
> cylinder?

wait and see. you may be fine. i just mentioned it because it can be
frustrating to do major work on one end of the system only to find the
other end needs doing a few weeks later.

> Or will this correct itself?

time will tell!

>
> t
>
>
> jim beam wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>> My question: would a caliper rebuild resolve this issue?
>> yes.
>>
>>> Can you get a
>>> rebuild kit for these?
>> sure - everything is all available online.
>>
>>> I imagine I need new caliper pins and sleeves.
>> not necessarily. more likely it's the piston locking up in the cylinder.
>>
>>> Any other ideas out there?
>> for this location, consider just replacing the caliper. if you have bad
>> rust, a rebuild may be of limited value. should do both sides at once.
>> also, if you haven't changed the brake fluid in a while, be prepared
>> for the master cylinder to start leaking once the new fluid shrinks the
>> seals.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Terry in Winterpeg.
>