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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: > >> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >> >> >>> >>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>> scoping it all before and after. >> >> >> >> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >> not-too- much money? >> > > What's "too much money"? > Ebay would be my 1st choice. I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' afore I buys one. > I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. > Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- > something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. > (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) > > I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. > Any advice would be nice. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: > >> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >> >> >>> >>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>> scoping it all before and after. >> >> >> >> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >> not-too- much money? >> > > What's "too much money"? > Ebay would be my 1st choice. I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' afore I buys one. > I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. > Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- > something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. > (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) > > I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. > Any advice would be nice. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK scopes.~$100-250 The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO. They will be more in demand,though.(newer) They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too. A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC line-powered scope. you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK scopes.~$100-250 The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO. They will be more in demand,though.(newer) They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too. A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC line-powered scope. you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > this is what you really want,if you can find one; http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi- bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca- THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model number. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > this is what you really want,if you can find one; http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi- bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca- THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model number. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in > news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >> >>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the >>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be >>>> scoping it all before and after. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>> not-too- much money? >>> >> >> What's "too much money"? >> Ebay would be my 1st choice. > > > > I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. > > Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin' > afore I buys one. > > > >> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM- >> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge. >> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-) >> >> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here. >> > > > > Any advice would be nice. > http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > >> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: >> >>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >>> >>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use >>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but >>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>>> not-too- much money? >>>> >>> >>> What's "too much money"? >>> Ebay would be my 1st choice. >> >> >> >> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. >> >> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some >> larnin' afore I buys one. >> >> >> >>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz >>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a >>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the >>> exact company) ;-) >>> >>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it >>> here. >>> >> >> >> >> Any advice would be nice. >> > > For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good > TEK scopes.~$100-250 > The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line > powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO. > They will be more in demand,though.(newer) > They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too. > > A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more > than$100)AC line-powered scope. > > you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors. > > Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17: > >> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in >> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85: >> >>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17: >>> >>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in >>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be >>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just >>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you >>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use >>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but >>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for >>>> not-too- much money? >>>> >>> >>> What's "too much money"? >>> Ebay would be my 1st choice. >> >> >> >> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300. >> >> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some >> larnin' afore I buys one. >> >> >> >>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications. >>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz >>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a >>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the >>> exact company) ;-) >>> >>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it >>> here. >>> >> >> >> >> Any advice would be nice. >> > > For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good > TEK scopes.~$100-250 > The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line > powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO. > They will be more in demand,though.(newer) > They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too. > > A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more > than$100)AC line-powered scope. > > you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors. > > Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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