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Raymond 09-08-2004 12:36 AM

ABS Help
 
Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
the DLC for a 95 Prelude.

Here is what my problem is:

After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.

The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.

Here is what I have done:

Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
Changed all the pads
Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
light came on.

Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
with a little help.

Thanks in advance,

_chris_ 09-08-2004 01:06 AM

Re: ABS Help
 
Maybe you have a bad abs sensor on the front wheels.



"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com...
> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,




_chris_ 09-08-2004 01:06 AM

Re: ABS Help
 
Maybe you have a bad abs sensor on the front wheels.



"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com...
> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,




rastapasta 09-08-2004 01:26 AM

Re: ABS Help
 

"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com...
> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,



I sure want to hear some suggestions. Methinks these ABS
cylinders/pumps/.modulators....the whole cylinder.....has a mere 10 year
lifespan. I'd already replied to your earlier post, Ray. This is funny, cuz
I was just online looking for the best price I could find on a new cylinder.
I have the same problem you do. On my '92 Integra, I'll get down the block
(~ 1 mile, on a good day) & it'll come on. Sometimes, a little later on,
though. I took her in today to get a new radiator, so one thing at a time
for me right now with these repairs, esp. when we're talkin' an ABS
replacement. I'm just gonna go new this time around. I got a used one from
HAP Recyclers in CA for ~$200, & the 1st one they sent out was no good after
having had it installed, so I called HAP & they sent out another one
immediately (6 month warranty). Well, that was only ~ 2 years ago. Unless I
hear of a easier fix for this (besides disabling the whole thing & not
having ABS), I'm gonna throw a new one in it. Where I buy it from & choosing
one of my qualified mechanics vs. dealer to do it is another story
altogether. Good luck---keep us informed on what you do! (I don't plan on
selling my Teg. I'll drop another engine in it before I do that).


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rastapasta 09-08-2004 01:26 AM

Re: ABS Help
 

"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com...
> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,



I sure want to hear some suggestions. Methinks these ABS
cylinders/pumps/.modulators....the whole cylinder.....has a mere 10 year
lifespan. I'd already replied to your earlier post, Ray. This is funny, cuz
I was just online looking for the best price I could find on a new cylinder.
I have the same problem you do. On my '92 Integra, I'll get down the block
(~ 1 mile, on a good day) & it'll come on. Sometimes, a little later on,
though. I took her in today to get a new radiator, so one thing at a time
for me right now with these repairs, esp. when we're talkin' an ABS
replacement. I'm just gonna go new this time around. I got a used one from
HAP Recyclers in CA for ~$200, & the 1st one they sent out was no good after
having had it installed, so I called HAP & they sent out another one
immediately (6 month warranty). Well, that was only ~ 2 years ago. Unless I
hear of a easier fix for this (besides disabling the whole thing & not
having ABS), I'm gonna throw a new one in it. Where I buy it from & choosing
one of my qualified mechanics vs. dealer to do it is another story
altogether. Good luck---keep us informed on what you do! (I don't plan on
selling my Teg. I'll drop another engine in it before I do that).


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E. Meyer 09-08-2004 01:40 PM

Re: ABS Help
 
On 9/7/04 11:36 PM, in article sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com,
"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,


I'm surprised it didn't give you a code. I assume you shorted the connector
and switched the key to position II prior to pulling the fuse (which clears
it)?

If it is a problem in the unit, you will hear it buzz several times for
short periods (about a second each time) trying to pressurize prior to the
light coming on.

From your symptoms, it sounds pretty definitive that something is going on
with your wheel sensors. Check that they are properly seated and the wiring
connector is seated and undamaged. Also look at the drive shaft where it
passes under the sensor to make sure nothing has obstructed the marks that
the sensor reads to decide if that wheel is turning.


E. Meyer 09-08-2004 01:40 PM

Re: ABS Help
 
On 9/7/04 11:36 PM, in article sg2tj09b6sppg2ptov7k1aggflmhlcr7h5@4ax.com,
"Raymond" <mailray@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Thanks to all that replied to my earlier question on the location of
> the DLC for a 95 Prelude.
>
> Here is what my problem is:
>
> After I drive the car for about 10 seconds, the ABS light comes on.
> This is like clock work. When I reach the same distance from my house
> while driving, the light come on. Typically this is about a block.
>
> The ABS light only comes on after I start driving. If the car is
> sitting idle, it will not come on. Once it is on, it stays on until I
> turn off the key. Then the patter repeats.
>
> Here is what I have done:
>
> Checked all fluids in both reservoir's
> Changed all the pads
> Pulled the B2 fuse (recently had to replace dead battery)
> Shorted the Service Check Connector. Light did not give a DTC code
> Jacked the car up and spun each wheel independently. For each tire I
> shut the car off and then restarted. After spinning the rear tires,
> no light. After spinning the front right, ABS light came on. I shut
> the car off and then restarted. After spinning the front left, ABS
> light came on.
>
> Any additional suggestions would be appreciated. I would hate to take
> to a dealer for the repair. I am having too much fun doing my self
> with a little help.
>
> Thanks in advance,


I'm surprised it didn't give you a code. I assume you shorted the connector
and switched the key to position II prior to pulling the fuse (which clears
it)?

If it is a problem in the unit, you will hear it buzz several times for
short periods (about a second each time) trying to pressurize prior to the
light coming on.

From your symptoms, it sounds pretty definitive that something is going on
with your wheel sensors. Check that they are properly seated and the wiring
connector is seated and undamaged. Also look at the drive shaft where it
passes under the sensor to make sure nothing has obstructed the marks that
the sensor reads to decide if that wheel is turning.



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