ABS sensors, why?
 

The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.

Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
epoxy and a short wire attached to it.

Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
100 years.

I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!

Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.

Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
$3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

$120 or so at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...REAR+LOWER+ARM

www.slhondaparts.com should have a similar price.

I have used both these online companies before. Good
service.

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code
> said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be
> open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of
> wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then
> potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been
> made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't
> they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than
> $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in
> China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for
> less than that.

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

$120 or so at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...REAR+LOWER+ARM

www.slhondaparts.com should have a similar price.

I have used both these online companies before. Good
service.

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code
> said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be
> open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of
> wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then
> potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been
> made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't
> they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than
> $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in
> China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for
> less than that.

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

$120 or so at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...REAR+LOWER+ARM

www.slhondaparts.com should have a similar price.

I have used both these online companies before. Good
service.

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code
> said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be
> open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of
> wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then
> potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been
> made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't
> they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than
> $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in
> China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for
> less than that.

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

$120 or so at
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...REAR+LOWER+ARM

www.slhondaparts.com should have a similar price.

I have used both these online companies before. Good
service.

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code
> said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be
> open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of
> wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then
> potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been
> made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't
> they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than
> $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in
> China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for
> less than that.

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> said:

> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.

Easy... Dealer markups on cars are very thin. Options and/or parts are the
profit centers.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me
about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane'

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> said:

> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.

Easy... Dealer markups on cars are very thin. Options and/or parts are the
profit centers.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me
about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane'

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> said:

> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.

Easy... Dealer markups on cars are very thin. Options and/or parts are the
profit centers.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me
about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane'

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, "Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> said:

> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.

Easy... Dealer markups on cars are very thin. Options and/or parts are the
profit centers.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me
about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane'

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

Any chance of this being covered under warranty or recall, as it's safety
related? Probably not, but I thought I would suggest it.

-- R Flowers

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

Any chance of this being covered under warranty or recall, as it's safety
related? Probably not, but I thought I would suggest it.

-- R Flowers

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

Any chance of this being covered under warranty or recall, as it's safety
related? Probably not, but I thought I would suggest it.

-- R Flowers

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

Any chance of this being covered under warranty or recall, as it's safety
related? Probably not, but I thought I would suggest it.

-- R Flowers

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

It's the connector...(at least that's what I think after pricing an O2
sensor with and without connector) ;-)


Get one from a junkyard.

(seriously,there's yearly taxes on parts inventories,there's stocking and
facilities expenses,then some companies raise prices on parts as the end-
use item gets older,trying to tell you to buy a new item.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: ABS sensors, why?
 

"Ancient_Hacker" <grg2@comcast.net> wrote in
news:1154120072.426028.274400@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> The ABS light went on in our 97 Odyssey. The fault code said "rear
> left sensor", and by doggy- the ohmeter show it to be open.
>
> Now let's think about this sensor. It's a little coil of wire, maybe
> 200 turns of like #38 wire, on a little iron core. Then potted in
> epoxy and a short wire attached to it.
>
> Nothing very high-tech there. Coils of wire have been made for over
> 100 years.
>
> I call the dealer and ask for the part-- not only don't they have one
> in stock, the price is, now hold on, $188 !!!
>
> Even after calling around, I can't find it for less than $138.
>
> Can anybody explain why something that could be made in China for maybe
> $3 is so outrageously high? I've bought whole cars for less than that.
>

It's the connector...(at least that's what I think after pricing an O2
sensor with and without connector) ;-)


Get one from a junkyard.

(seriously,there's yearly taxes on parts inventories,there's stocking and
facilities expenses,then some companies raise prices on parts as the end-
use item gets older,trying to tell you to buy a new item.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net