Accord
I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel
right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
Re: Accord
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote:
>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >greatly appreciated. Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick as 5000 kms! They then covered it under warranty. Jody |
Re: Accord
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote:
>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >greatly appreciated. Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick as 5000 kms! They then covered it under warranty. Jody |
Re: Accord
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote:
>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >greatly appreciated. Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick as 5000 kms! They then covered it under warranty. Jody |
Re: Accord
On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: > >>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>greatly appreciated. > > Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor > was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on > this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover > it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with > links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick > as 5000 kms! > > They then covered it under warranty. > > Jody Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. Thanks. Dave Kelsen -- I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others. -- Thomas Jefferson |
Re: Accord
On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: > >>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>greatly appreciated. > > Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor > was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on > this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover > it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with > links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick > as 5000 kms! > > They then covered it under warranty. > > Jody Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. Thanks. Dave Kelsen -- I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others. -- Thomas Jefferson |
Re: Accord
On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: > >>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>greatly appreciated. > > Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor > was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on > this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover > it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with > links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick > as 5000 kms! > > They then covered it under warranty. > > Jody Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. Thanks. Dave Kelsen -- I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others. -- Thomas Jefferson |
Re: Accord
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:11:40 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge: > > >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: >> >>>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>>greatly appreciated. >> >> Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor >> was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on >> this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover >> it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with >> links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick >> as 5000 kms! >> >> They then covered it under warranty. >> >> Jody > >Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of >those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. > >Thanks. > >Dave Kelsen Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. Jody http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10037232 Summary: 2003 HONDA ACCORD 2DR COUPE MT. DUE TO STEERIG WHEEL VIBRATION INDUCED BY BRAKING SPEEDS >40MPH I BROUGHT MY CAR TO THE DEALER AND HAD MY BRAKE ROTORS RESURFACED SINCE THE ROTORS WERE DISCOVERED TO BE WARPED. THIS PROBLEM IS APPARENTLY A CONSISTENT PROBLEM ON THIS VEHICLE. I HAVE HEARD THAT POSSIBLE WHEEL TORQUE PROBLEMS ARE CAUSING THE WARPING OF THESE ROTORS. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE WITH THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM. Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10030149 Summary: BRAKE ROTORS WEAR OUT PREMATURELY, CONSUMER HAS ONLY OWNED THE VEHICLE FOR SEVEN MONTHS. DEALER NOTIFIED. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10032559 Summary: BRAKE VIBRATES AT SPEED ABOVE 40 MPH. HAPPENED AROUND 9000 MILES AND PROBLEM PERSISTED SINCE THEN. *NLM Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10028744 Summary: I HAVE HAD TO RESURFACE THE ROTORS EVERY 5,000 MILES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10029272 Summary: THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE BRAKING SYSTEM OF THE NEW 2003 ACCORD COUPE. IN MARCH, I HAD TO HAVE THE ROTORS RESURFACED BECAUSE OF VIBRATION. IT IS NOW ONLY JULY AND NOW THE PROBLEM IS BACK. MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND THAT I MUST PAY. I HAVE RESEARCHED THE WEB AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NEW ACCORD COUPE'S BRAKES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036817 Summary: BRAKES ARE NO GOOD AFTER 6500 MILES THE DEALER WON'T FIX THEM UNDER WARRANTY BECAUSE HONDA CLAIMS IT'S THE WAY I DRIVE. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036915 Summary: I AM EXPERIENCING A BRAKE ROTOR PROBLEM WITH MY 2003 ACCORD SEDAN. THE CAR HAS 25000 MILES AND IS GOING IN FOR THE 4TH TIME FOR SERVICE ON THE BRAKES. THE ROTORS WERE RESURFACED TWICE AND REPLACED ONCE AND THE PROBLEM IS BACK AGAIN.*AK http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...ccord%20brakes #5433 of 5686 Brake Problems!!!! 2003 Honda Accord EX/V6 by jambriz Jul 22, 2003 (7:57 am) Hello, I've been having brake problems with my car since I had 8k miles. Every time I hit the brake, my brake peddle starts to vibrate. I finally had a chance to take the car back into my local Honda Dealer and have the brakes checked. They replaced my front brake pads and machined the rotors and "told me it was only a one time deal". They told me that I was "riding" my brakes and this would not be under warranty the next time it happens. I never ride my brakes, I paid 27k for this car, I baby it!! Well here it is a few months latter and same brake problem, I feel that this is a bigger problem then Honda would like to admit. Does anyone have any more information about this? Please let me know. jambriz@cox.net http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_38069.html 4th Aug 2003, 00:09 I bought my 2003 Honda Accord LX V6 last December 2002. The car has been pulling to the right ever since. After driving approximately 500 miles, I had it looked at. The alignment was perfect, so they switch the two front tires and the problem seemed to have disappeared. I took the mechanics for a test drive, but he was unable to explain the problem. I was given all sorts of reasons why cars pull to the right. It was the way the roads were constructed or because it was too windy. I have been driving for over 15 years and cars don't pull like my Honda does. I went to a dealer an test drove the same model. The result was the same: the car pulls to the right. I had problems with the electric seat advancing one notch forward when braking. Honda will replace the seat as soon as they get one in the shop. The brake disks do not seem to be able to withstand the heat caused by braking. I had to be turn the disks after 3,000 miles. The shop turned them last week at 9,500 miles. I tend to brake with moderate force and I live in Phoenix, but still, I bought a Honda. 22nd Aug 2003, 09:55 I have had my 2003 Honda accord five months. The motor makes a loud ticking noise, there is popping sounds coming from the rear, middle and front. I have already had to have to rotors turned at 10,000 miles, and they have new carpet on order for me know. The carpet was pulling away from the sides. I have took the car to the shop and the techs do not hear the motor or the popping sounds and they are driving me crazy. I still have my 1995 Honda Accord with 180,000 miles and it has never gave me any trouble at all. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5624! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5625 of 5686 Recurring brake problems by hmurphy Aug 23, 2003 (10:18 pm) Like some others on this board, I'm having early brake problems with my 2003 EX-V6. About two weeks after I bought it, the brakes developed a loud grinding noise, which the dealer was unable to fix. After bringing Honda Customer Service into the equation, the dealer replaced the pads and resurfaced the rotors. Now, at about 6000 miles, the brakes are beginning to shudder when applied at speeds over 65 mph or so. I will have to confirm the problem with the dealer, but it appears that the rotors are at fault. I may have to reacquaint myself with my representative at Honda Customer Service. Other than that, the only other problems are the rattles mentioned elsewhere, very hot key, and out-of-whack thermometer. I can live with all of those, but not with perpetually failing rotors. I noticed several complaints on the NHTSA site for malfunctioning or nonfunctioning airbags. That's pretty scary. Here's hoping mine are never tested. The car is very fun to drive, and passengers love it, too. I hope that Honda can resolve these issues in the near future, before the ownership experience is soured. #5632 of 5686 auburn63 post #5612 by samironi Aug 25, 2003 (1:03 am) My VIN# falls under the first sequence you listed in post #5612. I have had my 2003 Accord LX 4 door in three times now for this and they just keep telling me they can't duplicate the problem. I heard it as early as 3,000 miles. At 8 ,000 miles I was able to duplicate the noise for the service manager. When I picked the car up they said that they replaced my strut collars. I did not hear the noise for a while, but now it back among other noises that make my stomach turn. The noise I hear from the back end is a grumbling noise, that is the easiest way that I can describe it. I hear it when I am slowly backing out of my garage or a parking space. Basically, when ever I am rolling with my foot off both the gas and brake at slow speed. I never hear it when driving at regular speeds, only when very slowly rolling. Also, when ever I start the car, with my foot fully depressed on the brake pedal, when I put the car in reverse there is a grinding noise from the back end. I do not understand this, as my foot is completely holding the brake pedal dowm. What is this noise? And most recently, I am noticing a clunking noise when I turn the steering wheel while backing out or rolling forward (slowly as well). It's that horrible clunk I always hear in American cars (sorry, I always hear this unacceptable clunk in American cars, this is my frist time ever hearing it in a Honda). I am so unhappy and worried that I bought a lemon. They replaced my front brakes as soon as 3,000 miles, that concerns me as once again because they are making a grinding noise, not constantly, but enough that I am worried about this as well. As long as I am driving, the car seems perfect (outside of creaking around the windows), but I just want earplugs for when I go to put the car in reverse or drive, and when I am backing out or slowing rolling through a parking lot. I am going to print out what you wrote in #5612 and bring it in to my service center. I really hope they can fix this and the other items at some point, I am at 17K miles now and I am sick thinking I might have bought a lemon. Can you make me feel any better about these issues I am having? Do they sound familiar? Can you expalin the loose dampner and what damage it could be causing from being loose? If they tightened it and didn't tell me at 3,000 miles, could it loosen again? They said they replaced the strut collars, and I did notice that the noise went away for a while, but it's back again. I am wondering if they really did replace the strut collars? Wouldn't they know that my car is one of the cars that falls with in these VIN's you listed? I would very much apprecaiate anything you can tell me to help me out with my next visit to the service center. Thank you. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5560! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5561 of 5686 They don't build them like they used to by calvinywang Aug 13, 2003 (5:31 pm) Bought an LX 5spd (made in Japan) 3 days ago, 400 miles so far. Here's a list of problems: 1. Center console door broken. 2. Buzzes from driver's window. 3. Pulling to the right. 4. Engine's noisy between 2000rpm to 3000rpm during accelation. Vibration coming from gas padel and steering wheel for the same RPM range. Not sure if this is normal or not. Does anyone know? I test drove another LX 5spd (Made in Ohio) before I bought this one. Didn't really like how the brake was modulated on that one. Even the slightest press on the panel will make the brake grab. Still like the car, smooth manual shift, very little friction along the drivetrain. It seems to take little to get the car moving. Guess JD Power wasn't really out of their minds when giving 03 Accord the lowest rating on initial quality. Still hoping for the long-term reliability that Honda was known for. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- #5562 of 5686 They Build 'em Pretty Well by blane Aug 13, 2003 (6:00 pm) calvinywang: The latest J.D. Powers survey rated Honda #9 of the 37 brands surveyed (with 2.18 problems per vehicle), NOT "the lowest" as you stated. The results ranged from 1.67 problems for Lexus to 5.09 for KIA, with the industry average being 2.73. The study is based on responses from more than 55,000 original owners of 2000 model-year cars and light trucks. They did NOT rate the 2003 Accord, nor ANY model-year 2001 through 2003 cars made by ANY manufacturer. Your dealer should easily address your problems #1 & 2. Your problem #3 may just be improper tire inflation. Check it with a good gauge. Your "problem" #4 seems to be a normal sound and vibration level for any four cylinder vehicle under hard acceleration. |
Re: Accord
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:11:40 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge: > > >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: >> >>>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>>greatly appreciated. >> >> Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor >> was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on >> this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover >> it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with >> links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick >> as 5000 kms! >> >> They then covered it under warranty. >> >> Jody > >Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of >those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. > >Thanks. > >Dave Kelsen Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. Jody http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10037232 Summary: 2003 HONDA ACCORD 2DR COUPE MT. DUE TO STEERIG WHEEL VIBRATION INDUCED BY BRAKING SPEEDS >40MPH I BROUGHT MY CAR TO THE DEALER AND HAD MY BRAKE ROTORS RESURFACED SINCE THE ROTORS WERE DISCOVERED TO BE WARPED. THIS PROBLEM IS APPARENTLY A CONSISTENT PROBLEM ON THIS VEHICLE. I HAVE HEARD THAT POSSIBLE WHEEL TORQUE PROBLEMS ARE CAUSING THE WARPING OF THESE ROTORS. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE WITH THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM. Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10030149 Summary: BRAKE ROTORS WEAR OUT PREMATURELY, CONSUMER HAS ONLY OWNED THE VEHICLE FOR SEVEN MONTHS. DEALER NOTIFIED. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10032559 Summary: BRAKE VIBRATES AT SPEED ABOVE 40 MPH. HAPPENED AROUND 9000 MILES AND PROBLEM PERSISTED SINCE THEN. *NLM Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10028744 Summary: I HAVE HAD TO RESURFACE THE ROTORS EVERY 5,000 MILES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10029272 Summary: THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE BRAKING SYSTEM OF THE NEW 2003 ACCORD COUPE. IN MARCH, I HAD TO HAVE THE ROTORS RESURFACED BECAUSE OF VIBRATION. IT IS NOW ONLY JULY AND NOW THE PROBLEM IS BACK. MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND THAT I MUST PAY. I HAVE RESEARCHED THE WEB AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NEW ACCORD COUPE'S BRAKES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036817 Summary: BRAKES ARE NO GOOD AFTER 6500 MILES THE DEALER WON'T FIX THEM UNDER WARRANTY BECAUSE HONDA CLAIMS IT'S THE WAY I DRIVE. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036915 Summary: I AM EXPERIENCING A BRAKE ROTOR PROBLEM WITH MY 2003 ACCORD SEDAN. THE CAR HAS 25000 MILES AND IS GOING IN FOR THE 4TH TIME FOR SERVICE ON THE BRAKES. THE ROTORS WERE RESURFACED TWICE AND REPLACED ONCE AND THE PROBLEM IS BACK AGAIN.*AK http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...ccord%20brakes #5433 of 5686 Brake Problems!!!! 2003 Honda Accord EX/V6 by jambriz Jul 22, 2003 (7:57 am) Hello, I've been having brake problems with my car since I had 8k miles. Every time I hit the brake, my brake peddle starts to vibrate. I finally had a chance to take the car back into my local Honda Dealer and have the brakes checked. They replaced my front brake pads and machined the rotors and "told me it was only a one time deal". They told me that I was "riding" my brakes and this would not be under warranty the next time it happens. I never ride my brakes, I paid 27k for this car, I baby it!! Well here it is a few months latter and same brake problem, I feel that this is a bigger problem then Honda would like to admit. Does anyone have any more information about this? Please let me know. jambriz@cox.net http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_38069.html 4th Aug 2003, 00:09 I bought my 2003 Honda Accord LX V6 last December 2002. The car has been pulling to the right ever since. After driving approximately 500 miles, I had it looked at. The alignment was perfect, so they switch the two front tires and the problem seemed to have disappeared. I took the mechanics for a test drive, but he was unable to explain the problem. I was given all sorts of reasons why cars pull to the right. It was the way the roads were constructed or because it was too windy. I have been driving for over 15 years and cars don't pull like my Honda does. I went to a dealer an test drove the same model. The result was the same: the car pulls to the right. I had problems with the electric seat advancing one notch forward when braking. Honda will replace the seat as soon as they get one in the shop. The brake disks do not seem to be able to withstand the heat caused by braking. I had to be turn the disks after 3,000 miles. The shop turned them last week at 9,500 miles. I tend to brake with moderate force and I live in Phoenix, but still, I bought a Honda. 22nd Aug 2003, 09:55 I have had my 2003 Honda accord five months. The motor makes a loud ticking noise, there is popping sounds coming from the rear, middle and front. I have already had to have to rotors turned at 10,000 miles, and they have new carpet on order for me know. The carpet was pulling away from the sides. I have took the car to the shop and the techs do not hear the motor or the popping sounds and they are driving me crazy. I still have my 1995 Honda Accord with 180,000 miles and it has never gave me any trouble at all. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5624! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5625 of 5686 Recurring brake problems by hmurphy Aug 23, 2003 (10:18 pm) Like some others on this board, I'm having early brake problems with my 2003 EX-V6. About two weeks after I bought it, the brakes developed a loud grinding noise, which the dealer was unable to fix. After bringing Honda Customer Service into the equation, the dealer replaced the pads and resurfaced the rotors. Now, at about 6000 miles, the brakes are beginning to shudder when applied at speeds over 65 mph or so. I will have to confirm the problem with the dealer, but it appears that the rotors are at fault. I may have to reacquaint myself with my representative at Honda Customer Service. Other than that, the only other problems are the rattles mentioned elsewhere, very hot key, and out-of-whack thermometer. I can live with all of those, but not with perpetually failing rotors. I noticed several complaints on the NHTSA site for malfunctioning or nonfunctioning airbags. That's pretty scary. Here's hoping mine are never tested. The car is very fun to drive, and passengers love it, too. I hope that Honda can resolve these issues in the near future, before the ownership experience is soured. #5632 of 5686 auburn63 post #5612 by samironi Aug 25, 2003 (1:03 am) My VIN# falls under the first sequence you listed in post #5612. I have had my 2003 Accord LX 4 door in three times now for this and they just keep telling me they can't duplicate the problem. I heard it as early as 3,000 miles. At 8 ,000 miles I was able to duplicate the noise for the service manager. When I picked the car up they said that they replaced my strut collars. I did not hear the noise for a while, but now it back among other noises that make my stomach turn. The noise I hear from the back end is a grumbling noise, that is the easiest way that I can describe it. I hear it when I am slowly backing out of my garage or a parking space. Basically, when ever I am rolling with my foot off both the gas and brake at slow speed. I never hear it when driving at regular speeds, only when very slowly rolling. Also, when ever I start the car, with my foot fully depressed on the brake pedal, when I put the car in reverse there is a grinding noise from the back end. I do not understand this, as my foot is completely holding the brake pedal dowm. What is this noise? And most recently, I am noticing a clunking noise when I turn the steering wheel while backing out or rolling forward (slowly as well). It's that horrible clunk I always hear in American cars (sorry, I always hear this unacceptable clunk in American cars, this is my frist time ever hearing it in a Honda). I am so unhappy and worried that I bought a lemon. They replaced my front brakes as soon as 3,000 miles, that concerns me as once again because they are making a grinding noise, not constantly, but enough that I am worried about this as well. As long as I am driving, the car seems perfect (outside of creaking around the windows), but I just want earplugs for when I go to put the car in reverse or drive, and when I am backing out or slowing rolling through a parking lot. I am going to print out what you wrote in #5612 and bring it in to my service center. I really hope they can fix this and the other items at some point, I am at 17K miles now and I am sick thinking I might have bought a lemon. Can you make me feel any better about these issues I am having? Do they sound familiar? Can you expalin the loose dampner and what damage it could be causing from being loose? If they tightened it and didn't tell me at 3,000 miles, could it loosen again? They said they replaced the strut collars, and I did notice that the noise went away for a while, but it's back again. I am wondering if they really did replace the strut collars? Wouldn't they know that my car is one of the cars that falls with in these VIN's you listed? I would very much apprecaiate anything you can tell me to help me out with my next visit to the service center. Thank you. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5560! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5561 of 5686 They don't build them like they used to by calvinywang Aug 13, 2003 (5:31 pm) Bought an LX 5spd (made in Japan) 3 days ago, 400 miles so far. Here's a list of problems: 1. Center console door broken. 2. Buzzes from driver's window. 3. Pulling to the right. 4. Engine's noisy between 2000rpm to 3000rpm during accelation. Vibration coming from gas padel and steering wheel for the same RPM range. Not sure if this is normal or not. Does anyone know? I test drove another LX 5spd (Made in Ohio) before I bought this one. Didn't really like how the brake was modulated on that one. Even the slightest press on the panel will make the brake grab. Still like the car, smooth manual shift, very little friction along the drivetrain. It seems to take little to get the car moving. Guess JD Power wasn't really out of their minds when giving 03 Accord the lowest rating on initial quality. Still hoping for the long-term reliability that Honda was known for. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- #5562 of 5686 They Build 'em Pretty Well by blane Aug 13, 2003 (6:00 pm) calvinywang: The latest J.D. Powers survey rated Honda #9 of the 37 brands surveyed (with 2.18 problems per vehicle), NOT "the lowest" as you stated. The results ranged from 1.67 problems for Lexus to 5.09 for KIA, with the industry average being 2.73. The study is based on responses from more than 55,000 original owners of 2000 model-year cars and light trucks. They did NOT rate the 2003 Accord, nor ANY model-year 2001 through 2003 cars made by ANY manufacturer. Your dealer should easily address your problems #1 & 2. Your problem #3 may just be improper tire inflation. Check it with a good gauge. Your "problem" #4 seems to be a normal sound and vibration level for any four cylinder vehicle under hard acceleration. |
Re: Accord
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:11:40 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 9/25/2003 2:07 PM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge: > > >> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:33:59 GMT, Joel <JLevy11@optonline.net> wrote: >> >>>I am driving a Honda Accord 2003. During the summer my brakes did not feel >>>right. The pedal would drop too low and feel soft. It would catch better if >>>I pushed on the pedal a second time. I took the car in and was told I need a >>>new master brake cylinder. I now was driving the car last week and the same >>>problem happened again. I took the car back to the dealer where they gave me >>>a loaner to drive. I was told there is a brake computer module that needed >>>to be replaced. This was last Thursday. The part is back ordered and I hope >>>to get my Accord back tomorrow. Has anyone had a similar experience? Is it >>>possible for a computer part to cause such a problem? Any help would be >>>greatly appreciated. >> >> Mine started shaking when braking. Took it in, they told me the rotor >> was warped and the pads needed replacing. I only have 30,000 kms on >> this car. (2003 Accord Sedan 2.4l stick) They weren't going to cover >> it under warranty. I bitched and fired an email off to Honda with >> links to other people complaining about the same thing. Some as quick >> as 5000 kms! >> >> They then covered it under warranty. >> >> Jody > >Jody, would it be too much trouble for you to provide me with some of >those links? My car (2003 Accord LX Auto) is doing much the same. > >Thanks. > >Dave Kelsen Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. Jody http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10037232 Summary: 2003 HONDA ACCORD 2DR COUPE MT. DUE TO STEERIG WHEEL VIBRATION INDUCED BY BRAKING SPEEDS >40MPH I BROUGHT MY CAR TO THE DEALER AND HAD MY BRAKE ROTORS RESURFACED SINCE THE ROTORS WERE DISCOVERED TO BE WARPED. THIS PROBLEM IS APPARENTLY A CONSISTENT PROBLEM ON THIS VEHICLE. I HAVE HEARD THAT POSSIBLE WHEEL TORQUE PROBLEMS ARE CAUSING THE WARPING OF THESE ROTORS. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANOTHER VEHICLE WITH THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM. Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10030149 Summary: BRAKE ROTORS WEAR OUT PREMATURELY, CONSUMER HAS ONLY OWNED THE VEHICLE FOR SEVEN MONTHS. DEALER NOTIFIED. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10032559 Summary: BRAKE VIBRATES AT SPEED ABOVE 40 MPH. HAPPENED AROUND 9000 MILES AND PROBLEM PERSISTED SINCE THEN. *NLM Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10028744 Summary: I HAVE HAD TO RESURFACE THE ROTORS EVERY 5,000 MILES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10029272 Summary: THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE BRAKING SYSTEM OF THE NEW 2003 ACCORD COUPE. IN MARCH, I HAD TO HAVE THE ROTORS RESURFACED BECAUSE OF VIBRATION. IT IS NOW ONLY JULY AND NOW THE PROBLEM IS BACK. MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND THAT I MUST PAY. I HAVE RESEARCHED THE WEB AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE SIMILAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE NEW ACCORD COUPE'S BRAKES.*AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036817 Summary: BRAKES ARE NO GOOD AFTER 6500 MILES THE DEALER WON'T FIX THEM UNDER WARRANTY BECAUSE HONDA CLAIMS IT'S THE WAY I DRIVE. *AK Make: HONDA Model: ACCORD Year: 2003 Complaint Number: 10036915 Summary: I AM EXPERIENCING A BRAKE ROTOR PROBLEM WITH MY 2003 ACCORD SEDAN. THE CAR HAS 25000 MILES AND IS GOING IN FOR THE 4TH TIME FOR SERVICE ON THE BRAKES. THE ROTORS WERE RESURFACED TWICE AND REPLACED ONCE AND THE PROBLEM IS BACK AGAIN.*AK http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...ccord%20brakes #5433 of 5686 Brake Problems!!!! 2003 Honda Accord EX/V6 by jambriz Jul 22, 2003 (7:57 am) Hello, I've been having brake problems with my car since I had 8k miles. Every time I hit the brake, my brake peddle starts to vibrate. I finally had a chance to take the car back into my local Honda Dealer and have the brakes checked. They replaced my front brake pads and machined the rotors and "told me it was only a one time deal". They told me that I was "riding" my brakes and this would not be under warranty the next time it happens. I never ride my brakes, I paid 27k for this car, I baby it!! Well here it is a few months latter and same brake problem, I feel that this is a bigger problem then Honda would like to admit. Does anyone have any more information about this? Please let me know. jambriz@cox.net http://www.carsurvey.org/viewcomments_review_38069.html 4th Aug 2003, 00:09 I bought my 2003 Honda Accord LX V6 last December 2002. The car has been pulling to the right ever since. After driving approximately 500 miles, I had it looked at. The alignment was perfect, so they switch the two front tires and the problem seemed to have disappeared. I took the mechanics for a test drive, but he was unable to explain the problem. I was given all sorts of reasons why cars pull to the right. It was the way the roads were constructed or because it was too windy. I have been driving for over 15 years and cars don't pull like my Honda does. I went to a dealer an test drove the same model. The result was the same: the car pulls to the right. I had problems with the electric seat advancing one notch forward when braking. Honda will replace the seat as soon as they get one in the shop. The brake disks do not seem to be able to withstand the heat caused by braking. I had to be turn the disks after 3,000 miles. The shop turned them last week at 9,500 miles. I tend to brake with moderate force and I live in Phoenix, but still, I bought a Honda. 22nd Aug 2003, 09:55 I have had my 2003 Honda accord five months. The motor makes a loud ticking noise, there is popping sounds coming from the rear, middle and front. I have already had to have to rotors turned at 10,000 miles, and they have new carpet on order for me know. The carpet was pulling away from the sides. I have took the car to the shop and the techs do not hear the motor or the popping sounds and they are driving me crazy. I still have my 1995 Honda Accord with 180,000 miles and it has never gave me any trouble at all. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5624! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5625 of 5686 Recurring brake problems by hmurphy Aug 23, 2003 (10:18 pm) Like some others on this board, I'm having early brake problems with my 2003 EX-V6. About two weeks after I bought it, the brakes developed a loud grinding noise, which the dealer was unable to fix. After bringing Honda Customer Service into the equation, the dealer replaced the pads and resurfaced the rotors. Now, at about 6000 miles, the brakes are beginning to shudder when applied at speeds over 65 mph or so. I will have to confirm the problem with the dealer, but it appears that the rotors are at fault. I may have to reacquaint myself with my representative at Honda Customer Service. Other than that, the only other problems are the rattles mentioned elsewhere, very hot key, and out-of-whack thermometer. I can live with all of those, but not with perpetually failing rotors. I noticed several complaints on the NHTSA site for malfunctioning or nonfunctioning airbags. That's pretty scary. Here's hoping mine are never tested. The car is very fun to drive, and passengers love it, too. I hope that Honda can resolve these issues in the near future, before the ownership experience is soured. #5632 of 5686 auburn63 post #5612 by samironi Aug 25, 2003 (1:03 am) My VIN# falls under the first sequence you listed in post #5612. I have had my 2003 Accord LX 4 door in three times now for this and they just keep telling me they can't duplicate the problem. I heard it as early as 3,000 miles. At 8 ,000 miles I was able to duplicate the noise for the service manager. When I picked the car up they said that they replaced my strut collars. I did not hear the noise for a while, but now it back among other noises that make my stomach turn. The noise I hear from the back end is a grumbling noise, that is the easiest way that I can describe it. I hear it when I am slowly backing out of my garage or a parking space. Basically, when ever I am rolling with my foot off both the gas and brake at slow speed. I never hear it when driving at regular speeds, only when very slowly rolling. Also, when ever I start the car, with my foot fully depressed on the brake pedal, when I put the car in reverse there is a grinding noise from the back end. I do not understand this, as my foot is completely holding the brake pedal dowm. What is this noise? And most recently, I am noticing a clunking noise when I turn the steering wheel while backing out or rolling forward (slowly as well). It's that horrible clunk I always hear in American cars (sorry, I always hear this unacceptable clunk in American cars, this is my frist time ever hearing it in a Honda). I am so unhappy and worried that I bought a lemon. They replaced my front brakes as soon as 3,000 miles, that concerns me as once again because they are making a grinding noise, not constantly, but enough that I am worried about this as well. As long as I am driving, the car seems perfect (outside of creaking around the windows), but I just want earplugs for when I go to put the car in reverse or drive, and when I am backing out or slowing rolling through a parking lot. I am going to print out what you wrote in #5612 and bring it in to my service center. I really hope they can fix this and the other items at some point, I am at 17K miles now and I am sick thinking I might have bought a lemon. Can you make me feel any better about these issues I am having? Do they sound familiar? Can you expalin the loose dampner and what damage it could be causing from being loose? If they tightened it and didn't tell me at 3,000 miles, could it loosen again? They said they replaced the strut collars, and I did notice that the noise went away for a while, but it's back again. I am wondering if they really did replace the strut collars? Wouldn't they know that my car is one of the cars that falls with in these VIN's you listed? I would very much apprecaiate anything you can tell me to help me out with my next visit to the service center. Thank you. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/Web...@.ee997a9/5560! keywords=allin:msgtext%20limit:.ee997a9%20brakes #5561 of 5686 They don't build them like they used to by calvinywang Aug 13, 2003 (5:31 pm) Bought an LX 5spd (made in Japan) 3 days ago, 400 miles so far. Here's a list of problems: 1. Center console door broken. 2. Buzzes from driver's window. 3. Pulling to the right. 4. Engine's noisy between 2000rpm to 3000rpm during accelation. Vibration coming from gas padel and steering wheel for the same RPM range. Not sure if this is normal or not. Does anyone know? I test drove another LX 5spd (Made in Ohio) before I bought this one. Didn't really like how the brake was modulated on that one. Even the slightest press on the panel will make the brake grab. Still like the car, smooth manual shift, very little friction along the drivetrain. It seems to take little to get the car moving. Guess JD Power wasn't really out of their minds when giving 03 Accord the lowest rating on initial quality. Still hoping for the long-term reliability that Honda was known for. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- #5562 of 5686 They Build 'em Pretty Well by blane Aug 13, 2003 (6:00 pm) calvinywang: The latest J.D. Powers survey rated Honda #9 of the 37 brands surveyed (with 2.18 problems per vehicle), NOT "the lowest" as you stated. The results ranged from 1.67 problems for Lexus to 5.09 for KIA, with the industry average being 2.73. The study is based on responses from more than 55,000 original owners of 2000 model-year cars and light trucks. They did NOT rate the 2003 Accord, nor ANY model-year 2001 through 2003 cars made by ANY manufacturer. Your dealer should easily address your problems #1 & 2. Your problem #3 may just be improper tire inflation. Check it with a good gauge. Your "problem" #4 seems to be a normal sound and vibration level for any four cylinder vehicle under hard acceleration. |
Re: Accord
On 9/26/2003 6:36 AM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
<snip> > > Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. > > Jody > > http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm > > <snip> Thank you, sir. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Long ago, my dad warned me that it's a dog-eat-dog world. Well, years of experience have led me to believe that it's just the opposite. |
Re: Accord
On 9/26/2003 6:36 AM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
<snip> > > Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. > > Jody > > http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm > > <snip> Thank you, sir. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Long ago, my dad warned me that it's a dog-eat-dog world. Well, years of experience have led me to believe that it's just the opposite. |
Re: Accord
On 9/26/2003 6:36 AM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge:
<snip> > > Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. > > Jody > > http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm > > <snip> Thank you, sir. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Long ago, my dad warned me that it's a dog-eat-dog world. Well, years of experience have led me to believe that it's just the opposite. |
Re: Accord
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:36:09 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 9/26/2003 6:36 AM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge: > ><snip> >> >> Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. >> >> Jody >> >> http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm >> >> > > ><snip> > > >Thank you, sir. > > Your Welcome. Otherwise, I love the car. I put new 17" rims: http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?w...+%2D+Gun+Metal with tires: http://www.lindertire.com/browse.php?MODEL=G5000Z (my car is Graphite Pearl color) She looks sweet now. Jody >RFT!!! >Dave Kelsen |
Re: Accord
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 00:36:09 GMT, Dave Kelsen <kelsen@elmore.rr.com>
wrote: >On 9/26/2003 6:36 AM Knuckles Muldoon spake these words of knowledge: > ><snip> >> >> Here are the lot that I emailed to Honda, Dave. >> >> Jody >> >> http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm >> >> > > ><snip> > > >Thank you, sir. > > Your Welcome. Otherwise, I love the car. I put new 17" rims: http://www.1010tires.com/wheel.asp?w...+%2D+Gun+Metal with tires: http://www.lindertire.com/browse.php?MODEL=G5000Z (my car is Graphite Pearl color) She looks sweet now. Jody >RFT!!! >Dave Kelsen |
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