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Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
Trying to help a neighbor.
1988 Accord LX No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal speed... We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over no fuel comes out of the fuel line. I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the engine is cranked over shouldn’t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? I’m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. -- Posted at author's request, using http://www.AutoBoardz.com interface Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse Thread archive: http://www.AutoBoardz.com/N0-Fuel-St...ict200790.html |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
twodotmike wrote:
> Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > is this injected or carburetted? if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
twodotmike wrote:
> Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > is this injected or carburetted? if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
twodotmike wrote:
> Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > is this injected or carburetted? if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
twodotmike wrote:
> Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > is this injected or carburetted? if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. |
Re: Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
Thank you, Jim, for your response. I appreciate your input
"jim beam" wrote > twodotmike wrote: > > Trying to help a neighbor. > > 1988 Accord LX > > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at > normal > > speed... > > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side > of either > > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" > position we > > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is > cranked over > > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with > the PGM-FI > > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord > LX? When > > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also > when the > > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the > fuel lines? > > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 > second initial > > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the > pump run for > > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main > suspected > > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been > replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a > magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, > hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not > always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump > circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age > civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. -- Posted at author's request, using http://www.AutoBoardz.com interface Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse Thread archive: http://www.AutoBoardz.com/N0-Fuel-St...ict200790.html |
Re: Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
Thank you, Jim, for your response. I appreciate your input
"jim beam" wrote > twodotmike wrote: > > Trying to help a neighbor. > > 1988 Accord LX > > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at > normal > > speed... > > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side > of either > > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" > position we > > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is > cranked over > > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with > the PGM-FI > > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord > LX? When > > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also > when the > > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the > fuel lines? > > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 > second initial > > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the > pump run for > > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main > suspected > > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been > replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a > magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, > hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not > always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump > circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age > civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. -- Posted at author's request, using http://www.AutoBoardz.com interface Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse Thread archive: http://www.AutoBoardz.com/N0-Fuel-St...ict200790.html |
Re: Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
Thank you, Jim, for your response. I appreciate your input
"jim beam" wrote > twodotmike wrote: > > Trying to help a neighbor. > > 1988 Accord LX > > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at > normal > > speed... > > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side > of either > > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" > position we > > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is > cranked over > > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with > the PGM-FI > > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord > LX? When > > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also > when the > > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the > fuel lines? > > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 > second initial > > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the > pump run for > > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main > suspected > > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been > replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a > magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, > hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not > always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump > circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age > civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. -- Posted at author's request, using http://www.AutoBoardz.com interface Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse Thread archive: http://www.AutoBoardz.com/N0-Fuel-St...ict200790.html |
Re: Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
Thank you, Jim, for your response. I appreciate your input
"jim beam" wrote > twodotmike wrote: > > Trying to help a neighbor. > > 1988 Accord LX > > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at > normal > > speed... > > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side > of either > > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" > position we > > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, > but no > > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is > cranked over > > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with > the PGM-FI > > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord > LX? When > > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also > when the > > engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the > fuel lines? > > I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 > second initial > > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the > pump run for > > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main > suspected > > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. > > > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been > replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a > magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, > hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not > always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump > circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age > civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. -- Posted at author's request, using http://www.AutoBoardz.com interface Articles individually verified to usenet standards. Visit URL to contact author/report abuse Thread archive: http://www.AutoBoardz.com/N0-Fuel-St...ict200790.html |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
"twodotmike" <none@000.com> wrote in message news:952053_d0911493cdbdd7818f33957fc2a8697e@autob oardz.com... > Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn't we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I'm not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. The fuel cut off relay is located in the under dash fuse box to the left of the steering column. Bob |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
"twodotmike" <none@000.com> wrote in message news:952053_d0911493cdbdd7818f33957fc2a8697e@autob oardz.com... > Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn't we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I'm not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. The fuel cut off relay is located in the under dash fuse box to the left of the steering column. Bob |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
"twodotmike" <none@000.com> wrote in message news:952053_d0911493cdbdd7818f33957fc2a8697e@autob oardz.com... > Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn't we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I'm not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. The fuel cut off relay is located in the under dash fuse box to the left of the steering column. Bob |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
"twodotmike" <none@000.com> wrote in message news:952053_d0911493cdbdd7818f33957fc2a8697e@autob oardz.com... > Trying to help a neighbor. > 1988 Accord LX > No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal > speed... > We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either > filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we > can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no > fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over > no fuel comes out of the fuel line. > I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI > relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When > the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the > engine is cranked over shouldn't we get fuel out of the fuel lines? > I'm not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial > time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for > that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected > bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. The fuel cut off relay is located in the under dash fuse box to the left of the steering column. Bob |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:etWdnT4ePeswHhnYnZ2dnUVZ_uW3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > twodotmike wrote: >> Trying to help a neighbor. >> 1988 Accord LX >> No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal >> speed... >> We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no >> fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either >> filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we >> can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no >> fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over >> no fuel comes out of the fuel line. >> I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI >> relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When >> the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the >> engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? >> I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial >> time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for >> that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected >> bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. >> > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. > And as long as you have the MR out and disassembled,go ahead and resolder it so you will not have to do it at some later date. www.tegger.com has info on this. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Accord - N0 Fuel-No Start
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:etWdnT4ePeswHhnYnZ2dnUVZ_uW3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t: > twodotmike wrote: >> Trying to help a neighbor. >> 1988 Accord LX >> No start, NO FUEL, does have spark and engine cranks over at normal >> speed... >> We have checked both fuel filters and they seem serviceable, but no >> fuel comes out of the fuel line at the inlet or oultet side of either >> filter position. When ignition key is turned to the "ON" position we >> can hear the fuel pump run for 1-2 seconds and then cut off, but no >> fuel comes out of the fuel line. Also, when the engine is cranked over >> no fuel comes out of the fuel line. >> I read on-line that there is a problem on some Hondas with the PGM-FI >> relay. Where is this PGM-FI relay located on a 1988 Accord LX? When >> the fuel pump is on during the initial 1-2 seconds and also when the >> engine is cranked over shouldn�t we get fuel out of the fuel lines? >> I�m not sure why we can hear the pump run for the 1-2 second initial >> time frame, but not get fuel. Even though we can hear the pump run for >> that 1-2 second interval could the pump still be the main suspected >> bad part? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. >> > > is this injected or carburetted? > > if this an injected 88 and the main relay's never been replaced before, > suggest taking it out and inspecting carefully with a magnifier. go to > tegger.com and read the faq's on how to fix it. you're right, hearing > the pump work is usually the tell-tale for the relay, but not always - > sometimes the injector ground circuit fails, not the fuel pump circuit. > check the ecu and see if you have any codes. on that age civics, it > sets a code 16 if the relay's playing up. > And as long as you have the MR out and disassembled,go ahead and resolder it so you will not have to do it at some later date. www.tegger.com has info on this. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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