Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.
>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>
> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.

I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.
>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>
> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.

I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.
>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>
> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.

I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
<snip>

>I have a
> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
> become one of them.

what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
juvenile.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
<snip>

>I have a
> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
> become one of them.

what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
juvenile.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
<snip>

>I have a
> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
> become one of them.

what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
juvenile.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:


>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
> nuts.
>


Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
A cheat on them, as I said.

Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:


>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
> nuts.
>


Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
A cheat on them, as I said.

Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:


>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
> nuts.
>


Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
A cheat on them, as I said.

Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful
>> people who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about
>> top-posting and/or the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am
>> hoping Tegger doesn¹t become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm
> writing to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is
> /so/ ing juvenile.
>


Come on jim, stop holding back and tell us what you *really* think!

:)

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful
>> people who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about
>> top-posting and/or the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am
>> hoping Tegger doesn¹t become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm
> writing to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is
> /so/ ing juvenile.
>


Come on jim, stop holding back and tell us what you *really* think!

:)

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

jim beam <nospam@example.net> wrote in
news:xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful
>> people who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about
>> top-posting and/or the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am
>> hoping Tegger doesn¹t become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm
> writing to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is
> /so/ ing juvenile.
>


Come on jim, stop holding back and tell us what you *really* think!

:)

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>> become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
> juvenile.

Boy, you sure turned into an !

I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
Thanks for making my point.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>> become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
> juvenile.

Boy, you sure turned into an !

I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
Thanks for making my point.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> I have a
>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>> become one of them.
>
> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
> juvenile.

Boy, you sure turned into an !

I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
Thanks for making my point.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
>
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
>> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
>> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
>> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
>> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
>> nuts.
>>
>
>
> Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
> bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
> The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
> since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
> group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
> A cheat on them, as I said.
>
> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I have
cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never cross
posted to all those same groups. On one occasion that the answer I needed
was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least one of the groups for
excessive cross posting. I just don't think you can win trying to fix these
things & even making the attempt just causes frustration (and seems to bring
out Jim Beam's true personality...).

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
>
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
>> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
>> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
>> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
>> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
>> nuts.
>>
>
>
> Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
> bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
> The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
> since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
> group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
> A cheat on them, as I said.
>
> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I have
cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never cross
posted to all those same groups. On one occasion that the answer I needed
was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least one of the groups for
excessive cross posting. I just don't think you can win trying to fix these
things & even making the attempt just causes frustration (and seems to bring
out Jim Beam's true personality...).

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C075643E.F8381%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
>
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the
>> audacity to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your
>> website have been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem
>> to be descending more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman
>> trap. Maybe its time to take a short break before it all drives you
>> nuts.
>>
>
>
> Suppose a question was asked in several groups, each with different viewer
> bases. Suppose in ONE of those groups the question was answered correctly.
> The viewers in the other groups would be completely unaware of the answer
> since they are not aware of the question having been asked in the other
> group. This means that those who read for edification remain uneducated.
> A cheat on them, as I said.
>
> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.

I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I have
cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never cross
posted to all those same groups. On one occasion that the answer I needed
was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least one of the groups for
excessive cross posting. I just don't think you can win trying to fix these
things & even making the attempt just causes frustration (and seems to bring
out Jim Beam's true personality...).

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>I have a
>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>become one of them.
>>
>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>juvenile.
>
>
> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>
> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
> Thanks for making my point.
>

even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>I have a
>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>become one of them.
>>
>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>juvenile.
>
>
> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>
> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
> Thanks for making my point.
>

even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>I have a
>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>become one of them.
>>
>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>juvenile.
>
>
> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>
> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
> Thanks for making my point.
>

even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:

> On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
>
> I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> cross posted to all those same groups.



That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.


> On one occasion that the
> answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> one of the groups for excessive cross posting.



Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
related groups is not a bad thing.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:

> On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
>
> I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> cross posted to all those same groups.



That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.


> On one occasion that the
> answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> one of the groups for excessive cross posting.



Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
related groups is not a bad thing.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:

> On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
>
> I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> cross posted to all those same groups.



That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.


> On one occasion that the
> answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> one of the groups for excessive cross posting.



Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
related groups is not a bad thing.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
> > On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
> >> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
> >
> > I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> > have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> > cross posted to all those same groups.
>
> That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.
>
> > On one occasion that the
> > answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> > one of the groups for excessive cross posting.
>
> Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
> related groups is not a bad thing.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>


Agreed.

I very seldom look at how many groups that a post has been crossed
posted so when I reply, everyone gets my reply (some may call it torture
<G>). Those that trim reply lists often shortchange the groups they delete.

There's a lot of good info here even though my interest is in ancient Hondas.

JT

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
> > On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
> >> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
> >
> > I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> > have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> > cross posted to all those same groups.
>
> That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.
>
> > On one occasion that the
> > answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> > one of the groups for excessive cross posting.
>
> Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
> related groups is not a bad thing.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>


Agreed.

I very seldom look at how many groups that a post has been crossed
posted so when I reply, everyone gets my reply (some may call it torture
<G>). Those that trim reply lists often shortchange the groups they delete.

There's a lot of good info here even though my interest is in ancient Hondas.

JT

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> E Meyer <epmeyer50@msn.com> wrote in
> news:C0763F45.F8486%epmeyer50@msn.com:
>
> > On 4/27/06 6:48 AM, in article Xns97B24F7045855tegger@207.14.113.17,
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
> >> Crossposting is the cure for such informational disconnects.
> >
> > I don't disagree, but my (personal) experience has been that when I
> > have cross posted my question, that one correct answer is almost never
> > cross posted to all those same groups.
>
> That's because some ninny thinks he's smart by removing the crossposting.
>
> > On one occasion that the
> > answer I needed was cross posted, the answerer was flamed on at least
> > one of the groups for excessive cross posting.
>
> Then somebody doesn't understand crossposting. Crossposting to a few
> related groups is not a bad thing.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>


Agreed.

I very seldom look at how many groups that a post has been crossed
posted so when I reply, everyone gets my reply (some may call it torture
<G>). Those that trim reply lists often shortchange the groups they delete.

There's a lot of good info here even though my interest is in ancient Hondas.

JT

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
-PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I have a
>>>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>> and/or
>>>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>> become one of them.
>>>
>>> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>> juvenile.
>>
>>
>> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>
>> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>> Thanks for making my point.
>>
>
> even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
> hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
problem is. None of this had anything to do with you. But I think its
definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
-PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I have a
>>>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>> and/or
>>>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>> become one of them.
>>>
>>> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>> juvenile.
>>
>>
>> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>
>> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>> Thanks for making my point.
>>
>
> even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
> hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
problem is. None of this had anything to do with you. But I think its
definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 

On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
-PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>> xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> I have a
>>>> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>> and/or
>>>> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>> become one of them.
>>>
>>> what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>> someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>> to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>> juvenile.
>>
>>
>> Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>
>> I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>> futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>> Thanks for making my point.
>>
>
> even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
> hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.

aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
problem is. None of this had anything to do with you. But I think its
definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote
>> Bob, you are making things very confusing for yourself and others by
>> posting individual messages to several groups. Responders in each group
>> remain ignorant of the replies of others in those other groups unless
>> they
>> know to check. Learn to cross-post properly.
>>
>> I will not repeat myself here. Go check nmy reply in
>> rec.autos.makers.honda.
>
> Don't you think he saw you responded in the other newsgroup?
>
> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously was intended
> to cover more audience.
>
> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and then, a day or
> more later, post the same query to another newsgroup.

That's what cross-posting is for. If the original message had been
cross-posted to the appropriate groups, people who read those groups would
only have to see the message once, and all properly addressed replies would
be available in all groups of the cross-post.

Cross-posting /CAN/ be abusive. NOT cross-posting when applicable can also
be abusive.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote
>> Bob, you are making things very confusing for yourself and others by
>> posting individual messages to several groups. Responders in each group
>> remain ignorant of the replies of others in those other groups unless
>> they
>> know to check. Learn to cross-post properly.
>>
>> I will not repeat myself here. Go check nmy reply in
>> rec.autos.makers.honda.
>
> Don't you think he saw you responded in the other newsgroup?
>
> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously was intended
> to cover more audience.
>
> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and then, a day or
> more later, post the same query to another newsgroup.

That's what cross-posting is for. If the original message had been
cross-posted to the appropriate groups, people who read those groups would
only have to see the message once, and all properly addressed replies would
be available in all groups of the cross-post.

Cross-posting /CAN/ be abusive. NOT cross-posting when applicable can also
be abusive.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote
>> Bob, you are making things very confusing for yourself and others by
>> posting individual messages to several groups. Responders in each group
>> remain ignorant of the replies of others in those other groups unless
>> they
>> know to check. Learn to cross-post properly.
>>
>> I will not repeat myself here. Go check nmy reply in
>> rec.autos.makers.honda.
>
> Don't you think he saw you responded in the other newsgroup?
>
> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously was intended
> to cover more audience.
>
> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and then, a day or
> more later, post the same query to another newsgroup.

That's what cross-posting is for. If the original message had been
cross-posted to the appropriate groups, people who read those groups would
only have to see the message once, and all properly addressed replies would
be available in all groups of the cross-post.

Cross-posting /CAN/ be abusive. NOT cross-posting when applicable can also
be abusive.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
> -PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>>>xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>>><nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>E Meyer wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a
>>>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>>>and/or
>>>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>>>become one of them.
>>>>
>>>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>>>juvenile.
>>>
>>>
>>>Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>>
>>>I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>>>futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>>>Thanks for making my point.
>>>
>>
>>even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
>>hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.
>
>
> aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
> problem is. None of this had anything to do with you.

you're damned right it had nothing to do with me!!! right up to the
point where you started bleating at me when you were really aiming at
tegger. so then you made it my business and i don't ing well like it.

> But I think its
> definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

but you're the one that made the killfile threats!!! , you don't
have the balls to fight the fight you started, then you try to drag
other people in, but make out like the victim just because they won't
play the way you want? doesn't work in this parish bud.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
> -PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>>>xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>>><nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>E Meyer wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a
>>>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>>>and/or
>>>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>>>become one of them.
>>>>
>>>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>>>juvenile.
>>>
>>>
>>>Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>>
>>>I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>>>futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>>>Thanks for making my point.
>>>
>>
>>even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
>>hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.
>
>
> aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
> problem is. None of this had anything to do with you.

you're damned right it had nothing to do with me!!! right up to the
point where you started bleating at me when you were really aiming at
tegger. so then you made it my business and i don't ing well like it.

> But I think its
> definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

but you're the one that made the killfile threats!!! , you don't
have the balls to fight the fight you started, then you try to drag
other people in, but make out like the victim just because they won't
play the way you want? doesn't work in this parish bud.

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 

E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/27/06 9:39 AM, in article
> -PednSGRXo4CSs3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
> <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>>E Meyer wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/26/06 11:09 PM, in article
>>>xq6dnba-F7Fs3s3ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
>>><nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>E Meyer wrote:
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>I have a
>>>>>number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
>>>>>who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting
>>>>>and/or
>>>>>the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
>>>>>become one of them.
>>>>
>>>>what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
>>>>someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
>>>>to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
>>>>juvenile.
>>>
>>>
>>>Boy, you sure turned into an !
>>>
>>>I was trying to make the point that attempting to police the groups is
>>>futile and can turn into exactly the sort of crap you just descended to.
>>>Thanks for making my point.
>>>
>>
>>even more classic bullshit - the classic aggressor-victim switcheroo. i
>>hold up the mirror, and you fight your own reflection. ridiculous.
>
>
> aggressor-victim switcheroo?? Whatever... Man, I don't know what your
> problem is. None of this had anything to do with you.

you're damned right it had nothing to do with me!!! right up to the
point where you started bleating at me when you were really aiming at
tegger. so then you made it my business and i don't ing well like it.

> But I think its
> definitely time to take your previous advice about the kill file. Geez!!

but you're the one that made the killfile threats!!! , you don't
have the balls to fight the fight you started, then you try to drag
other people in, but make out like the victim just because they won't
play the way you want? doesn't work in this parish bud.