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Brian Smith 04-26-2006 01:00 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question ?
 

"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dBM3g.3554$DT5.572@newsread3.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>
> We disagree.


Now there's a surprise!



E Meyer 04-26-2006 06:54 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>
>>
>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>
>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>> newsgroup.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
> other groups.


Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
is empowered to police it.

What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


E Meyer 04-26-2006 06:54 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>
>>
>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>
>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>> newsgroup.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
> other groups.


Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
is empowered to police it.

What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


E Meyer 04-26-2006 06:54 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>
>>
>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>
>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>> newsgroup.
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
> other groups.


Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
is empowered to police it.

What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


Dave Kelsen 04-26-2006 09:39 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
On 4/26/2006 5:54 PM E Meyer spake these words of knowledge:

> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>
>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>> newsgroup.
>>>

>>
>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>> other groups.

>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


Personally, I think it's absurd to point out to someone voicing their
opinion about someone else's posts (in this case Tegger) that this is
usenet, and people can say whatever they want.

I mean, reading your post, it looks like you're taking Tegger to task
for his posting, which was taking someone to task for their posting.

Whatever. After all, this is usenet, and you can be as silly as you
want to be. Just don't expect other people not to notice.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Bill Brasky hated Mexicans. And he was half Mexican. And he hated irony.

Dave Kelsen 04-26-2006 09:39 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
On 4/26/2006 5:54 PM E Meyer spake these words of knowledge:

> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>
>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>> newsgroup.
>>>

>>
>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>> other groups.

>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


Personally, I think it's absurd to point out to someone voicing their
opinion about someone else's posts (in this case Tegger) that this is
usenet, and people can say whatever they want.

I mean, reading your post, it looks like you're taking Tegger to task
for his posting, which was taking someone to task for their posting.

Whatever. After all, this is usenet, and you can be as silly as you
want to be. Just don't expect other people not to notice.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Bill Brasky hated Mexicans. And he was half Mexican. And he hated irony.

Dave Kelsen 04-26-2006 09:39 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
On 4/26/2006 5:54 PM E Meyer spake these words of knowledge:

> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>
>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>> newsgroup.
>>>

>>
>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>> other groups.

>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.


Personally, I think it's absurd to point out to someone voicing their
opinion about someone else's posts (in this case Tegger) that this is
usenet, and people can say whatever they want.

I mean, reading your post, it looks like you're taking Tegger to task
for his posting, which was taking someone to task for their posting.

Whatever. After all, this is usenet, and you can be as silly as you
want to be. Just don't expect other people not to notice.


RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
Bill Brasky hated Mexicans. And he was half Mexican. And he hated irony.

jim beam 04-26-2006 10:36 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:
>>
>>
>>>"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>>It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>other groups.

>
>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>

well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
posts.

jim beam 04-26-2006 10:36 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:
>>
>>
>>>"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>>It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>other groups.

>
>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>

well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
posts.

jim beam 04-26-2006 10:36 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
E Meyer wrote:
> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>
>
>>"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earth link.net:
>>
>>
>>>"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote

>>
>>>This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>was intended to cover more audience.
>>>
>>>It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>newsgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>other groups.

>
>
> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
> is empowered to police it.
>
> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>

well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
posts.

E Meyer 04-26-2006 11:56 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.

>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>

> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.


I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.


E Meyer 04-26-2006 11:56 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.

>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>

> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.


I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.


E Meyer 04-26-2006 11:56 PM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil TypeQuestion ?
 
On 4/26/06 9:36 PM, in article
K-mdneupN8uls83ZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net, "jim beam"
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

> E Meyer wrote:
>> On 4/26/06 10:14 AM, in article Xns97B1727031AF2tegger@207.14.113.17,
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:VhL3g.1302$Vn.1228@newsread4.news.pas.earthli nk.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>>
>>>> This second post (to a different Honda newsgroup) obviously
>>>> was intended to cover more audience.
>>>>
>>>> It's simply not a big deal to post to one newsgroup and
>>>> then, a day or more later, post the same query to another
>>>> newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He posted this identical message independently to at least three groups
>>> simultaneously. That's both bad etiquette and a cheat on the readers of the
>>> other groups.

>>
>>
>> Just because you lurk in every group that says Honda on it, doesn't mean
>> everyone else does. This is an un-moderated group, so by definition, no one
>> is empowered to police it.
>>
>> What's next, criticism of every top-poster and anyone who has the audacity
>> to ask about the maintenance light? Your postings and your website have
>> been very useful to a lot of people, but lately you seem to be descending
>> more and more frequently into the etiquette policeman trap. Maybe its time
>> to take a short break before it all drives you nuts.
>>

> well /i/ think tegger's request is perfectly reasonable - it saves a
> bunch of messing about. i may "donate" time for free, but that doesn't
> mean it has no value and that i like wasting it on multiple independent
> posts.


I think Tegger's request is simply ridiculous and I just can't imagine why
he thinks he should have to respond in each group where he sees a question.
Who ever said you have to answer the same post independently in each
newsgroup? If someone takes the time to post the same question individually
to different groups, a reasonable expectation is that they are looking for
different responses from different people.

I just hate to see this stuff start. I've been lurking/participating in
some of these groups for over a decade and I've seen this happen a number of
times. Once the etiquette postings start, usefulness stops. I have a
number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
become one of them.


jim beam 04-27-2006 12:09 AM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
E Meyer wrote:
<snip>

>I have a
> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
> become one of them.


what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
juvenile.

jim beam 04-27-2006 12:09 AM

Re: From OP: Followup Quest., Please: Re: Accord Oil Type Question?
 
E Meyer wrote:
<snip>

>I have a
> number of ID's in the kill file of formerly intelligent and helpful people
> who burned out and descended into nonsensical rants about top-posting and/or
> the infamous "Maintenance required" light. I am hoping Tegger doesn¹t
> become one of them.


what a bunch of passive-aggressive bullshit. if you want to killfile
someone, either just do it or shut up. ranting with this, "i'm writing
to you, but my /real/ intended audience is tegger" crap is /so/ ing
juvenile.


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