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Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> jim beam wrote: >>> L Alpert wrote: >>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>>> Truble wrote: >>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>>> that a >>>>>> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car >>>>>> looks great and >>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>>> with the >>>>>> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once >>>>>> during the 3 >>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>>> the car and >>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy >>>>>> the car >>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>>> about how >>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>>> want to >>>>>> make a stupid mistake. >>>>>> >>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance undertaken? >>>> >>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service >>>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. >>>> There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>>> probability for future issues would be higher. >>> >>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle? > > You're apparently not reading the responses OR the original question. > > Ken Harris, who also owns a 2003 V-Tec said that the recommended change > for "normal" driving comes at 7,500mi but he uses "severe" at 3,750mi to > stay ahead of the game. i don't have that service manual, but i think you'll find it's 10k, not 7.5k. "staying ahead of the game" is great business for dealers and jiffy lube but a waste of your money. > > >> and i should have added, "what is the basis for the leasing company's >> information?" if it's only been serviced at the dealer once, but >> serviced at an independent other times, the leasing company would >> never know about the latter. > > Please re-read Truble's original post which you requoted above. He's > buying a friend's car off lease and SHE told him that SHE only changed > the oil once during the 26,500 miles she drove it. Ergo, in the kindest > of worlds, she ran it to 13,250 miles before touching the oil. ok, i misread that - i misunderstood it to be the leasing company that said that. but the fact still remains, with modern oil and a 10k service interval, there's really not much to worry about. > > Truble you should probably ask her WHEN she changed it. If she's > beaming and telling you "you won't have to change the oil since I just > changed it 2,000 miles ago when I noticed it was really low" you may > want to "walk on by." If she tells you that she found that she had to > add a quart every 3,000 - 5,000 miles with an oil and filter change at > 13,000 then maybe it'll be okay. |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
L Alpert wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> L Alpert wrote: >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>> Truble wrote: >>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>> car looks great and >>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>> once during the 3 >>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>> the car and >>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy >>>>> the car >>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>> about how >>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>> appreciate >>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>> >>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>> undertaken? >>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service >>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There >>> may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>> probability for future issues would be higher. >> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle? > > 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 change in > 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any vehicle that I have > ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics that I have looked at. > > > m1 extended service is 15k. |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
L Alpert wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> L Alpert wrote: >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>> Truble wrote: >>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>> car looks great and >>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>> once during the 3 >>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>> the car and >>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy >>>>> the car >>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>> about how >>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>> appreciate >>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>> >>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>> undertaken? >>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service >>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There >>> may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>> probability for future issues would be higher. >> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle? > > 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 change in > 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any vehicle that I have > ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics that I have looked at. > > > m1 extended service is 15k. |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
L Alpert wrote:
> jim beam wrote: >> L Alpert wrote: >>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>> Truble wrote: >>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>> car looks great and >>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>> once during the 3 >>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>> the car and >>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy >>>>> the car >>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>> about how >>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>> appreciate >>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>> >>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>> undertaken? >>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any service >>> schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for concern. There >>> may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>> probability for future issues would be higher. >> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that vehicle? > > 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 change in > 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any vehicle that I have > ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics that I have looked at. > > > m1 extended service is 15k. |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she
went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. Al "Stanjo" <stanjo74@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:4ATnh.42632$wc5.23954@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance > and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? > Otherwise will incur "excessive wear and tear" charges ? > > Just asking... never leased a vehicle before, but always assumed it was > safe to buy a previously leased car - at least as far as maintenance is > concerned. Well, not anymore ... > > Regards, > Stan > > > "Truble" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message news:6be103d0b51de@uwe... >>I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a >> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great >> and >> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the >> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the >> 3 >> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car >> and >> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the >> car >> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about >> how >> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >> appreciate >> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >> make a stupid mistake. >> > > |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she
went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. Al "Stanjo" <stanjo74@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:4ATnh.42632$wc5.23954@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance > and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? > Otherwise will incur "excessive wear and tear" charges ? > > Just asking... never leased a vehicle before, but always assumed it was > safe to buy a previously leased car - at least as far as maintenance is > concerned. Well, not anymore ... > > Regards, > Stan > > > "Truble" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message news:6be103d0b51de@uwe... >>I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a >> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great >> and >> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the >> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the >> 3 >> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car >> and >> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the >> car >> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about >> how >> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >> appreciate >> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >> make a stupid mistake. >> > > |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she
went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. Al "Stanjo" <stanjo74@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:4ATnh.42632$wc5.23954@newssvr25.news.prodigy. net... > When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance > and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? > Otherwise will incur "excessive wear and tear" charges ? > > Just asking... never leased a vehicle before, but always assumed it was > safe to buy a previously leased car - at least as far as maintenance is > concerned. Well, not anymore ... > > Regards, > Stan > > > "Truble" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message news:6be103d0b51de@uwe... >>I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine that a >> friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the car looks great >> and >> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal with the >> leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil once during the >> 3 >> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on the car >> and >> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I buy the >> car >> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice about >> how >> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >> appreciate >> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >> make a stupid mistake. >> > > |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
jim beam wrote:
> L Alpert wrote: >> jim beam wrote: >>> L Alpert wrote: >>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>>> Truble wrote: >>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>>> car looks great and >>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>>> once during the 3 >>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>>> the car and >>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I >>>>>> buy the car >>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>>> about how >>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>>> >>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>>> undertaken? >>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any >>>> service schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for >>>> concern. There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>>> probability for future issues would be higher. >>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that >>> vehicle? >> >> 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 >> change in 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any >> vehicle that I have ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics >> that I have looked at. > m1 extended service is 15k. Well, I guess it depends on when the oil was changed....though I doubt if the car was shipped with it! |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
jim beam wrote:
> L Alpert wrote: >> jim beam wrote: >>> L Alpert wrote: >>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>>> Truble wrote: >>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>>> car looks great and >>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>>> once during the 3 >>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>>> the car and >>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I >>>>>> buy the car >>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>>> about how >>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>>> >>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>>> undertaken? >>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any >>>> service schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for >>>> concern. There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>>> probability for future issues would be higher. >>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that >>> vehicle? >> >> 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 >> change in 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any >> vehicle that I have ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics >> that I have looked at. > m1 extended service is 15k. Well, I guess it depends on when the oil was changed....though I doubt if the car was shipped with it! |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
jim beam wrote:
> L Alpert wrote: >> jim beam wrote: >>> L Alpert wrote: >>>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message >>>> news:sM-dnUS0luZCJQLYnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@speakeasy.net... >>>>> Truble wrote: >>>>>> I am thinking about buying a Honda Accord EX with a V-Tec engine >>>>>> that a friend of mine is leasing. She leased for 3 years and the >>>>>> car looks great and >>>>>> has given her no problems. We were all set to complete the deal >>>>>> with the leasing company when she told me she only changed theoil >>>>>> once during the 3 >>>>>> year period. At that point I hesitated. She has 26,500 miles on >>>>>> the car and >>>>>> did not overheat or have any engine or oil light come on. If I >>>>>> buy the car >>>>>> now, change the oil regularly, etc., does anybody have any advice >>>>>> about how >>>>>> much of a risk I'm taking? What about the engine's lifespan? I'd >>>>>> appreciate >>>>>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't >>>>>> want to make a stupid mistake. >>>>>> >>>>> first things first - why don't you check what the service schedule >>>>> is for that vehicle, then compare that to the maintenance >>>>> undertaken? >>>> One oil change in +26K miles would be beyond pretty much any >>>> service schedule (even for synthetic oil) and a good reason for >>>> concern. There may not be a current issue with the vehicle, but the >>>> probability for future issues would be higher. >>> ok, so i'll ask again: what is the service schedule for that >>> vehicle? >> >> 3750 severe, 7500 normal, as Mr Harris has already alluded to. 1 >> change in 26K miles is well beyond any service schedule for any >> vehicle that I have ever owned or investigated or for any synthetics >> that I have looked at. > m1 extended service is 15k. Well, I guess it depends on when the oil was changed....though I doubt if the car was shipped with it! |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Thanks, everyone for all of the info and advice. I'll be asking my friend at
what point she changed the oil. Even though the V-Tec seems like a pretty durable engine, my tendency at this point is to "walk on by" unless I get satisfactory info...Pretty irresponsible not to perform regular maintenance even if you are not keeping the car long-term. One last question...would regular maintenance undo any potential damage done? ajtessier wrote: >Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she >went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. > >Al > >> When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance >> and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? >[quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >>> make a stupid mistake. -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200701/1 |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Thanks, everyone for all of the info and advice. I'll be asking my friend at
what point she changed the oil. Even though the V-Tec seems like a pretty durable engine, my tendency at this point is to "walk on by" unless I get satisfactory info...Pretty irresponsible not to perform regular maintenance even if you are not keeping the car long-term. One last question...would regular maintenance undo any potential damage done? ajtessier wrote: >Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she >went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. > >Al > >> When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance >> and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? >[quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >>> make a stupid mistake. -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200701/1 |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
Thanks, everyone for all of the info and advice. I'll be asking my friend at
what point she changed the oil. Even though the V-Tec seems like a pretty durable engine, my tendency at this point is to "walk on by" unless I get satisfactory info...Pretty irresponsible not to perform regular maintenance even if you are not keeping the car long-term. One last question...would regular maintenance undo any potential damage done? ajtessier wrote: >Nothing was mentioned about when the oil was changed. We don't know if she >went 13K and then changed the oil or if she went 26K before changing it. > >Al > >> When in a lease, isn't one required to perform all scheduled maintenance >> and present records when surrendering the car the end of the lease ? >[quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> any help. It's more money than I've ever spent on a car and don't want to >>> make a stupid mistake. -- Message posted via CarKB.com http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx...-cars/200701/1 |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
"Truble via CarKB.com" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message
news:6beda0dc8d903@uwe... > Thanks, everyone for all of the info and advice. I'll be asking my friend > at > what point she changed the oil. Even though the V-Tec seems like a pretty > durable engine, my tendency at this point is to "walk on by" unless I get > satisfactory info...Pretty irresponsible not to perform regular > maintenance > even if you are not keeping the car long-term. One last question...would > regular maintenance undo any potential damage done? > My opinion is that is is like stopping a smoking habit. There is a lot of immediate value to getting back on track, and the crank bearings are probably safe. The steel-on-steel contacts that depend on oil will have suffered already and may give trouble before the engine's time is due; valve guides definitely, along with possibly cam bearings, lifter surfaces and possibly the control hydraulics for the cam. Mostly, a revelation of inadequate maintenance is reason enough to make me look elsewhere. I always wonder - has tap water been used in the cooling system? You can look under the oil filler cap for varnish or (shudder!) deposits on the rocker arm assembly and you can look for signs of rust or cloudiness in the radiator, but I use those checks to answer the questions about maintenance that I couldn't be sure of getting a candid answer to. You have the answer already. Mike |
Re: Accord V-Tec Engine
"Truble via CarKB.com" <u30733@uwe> wrote in message
news:6beda0dc8d903@uwe... > Thanks, everyone for all of the info and advice. I'll be asking my friend > at > what point she changed the oil. Even though the V-Tec seems like a pretty > durable engine, my tendency at this point is to "walk on by" unless I get > satisfactory info...Pretty irresponsible not to perform regular > maintenance > even if you are not keeping the car long-term. One last question...would > regular maintenance undo any potential damage done? > My opinion is that is is like stopping a smoking habit. There is a lot of immediate value to getting back on track, and the crank bearings are probably safe. The steel-on-steel contacts that depend on oil will have suffered already and may give trouble before the engine's time is due; valve guides definitely, along with possibly cam bearings, lifter surfaces and possibly the control hydraulics for the cam. Mostly, a revelation of inadequate maintenance is reason enough to make me look elsewhere. I always wonder - has tap water been used in the cooling system? You can look under the oil filler cap for varnish or (shudder!) deposits on the rocker arm assembly and you can look for signs of rust or cloudiness in the radiator, but I use those checks to answer the questions about maintenance that I couldn't be sure of getting a candid answer to. You have the answer already. Mike |
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