accord v6 vs 4
04-08-2007, 12:27 PM
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accord v6 vs 4
i want to buy an 07 accord.
i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
scheduled interval.
how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
thank you
i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
scheduled interval.
how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
thank you
04-08-2007, 01:06 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
"w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
>
> i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> scheduled interval.
>
> how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
Easy. It took me all of thirty minutes from the time I picked up the
tools and went outside to the time I came back inside, after the work was
completed.
04-08-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
Plugs easy.
Still $600+ to change timing belt and water pump. My son as the 4-cyl and
it is very peppy. I still prefer my V6 though.
G-Man
"w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
>
> i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> scheduled interval.
>
> how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> thank you
>
Still $600+ to change timing belt and water pump. My son as the 4-cyl and
it is very peppy. I still prefer my V6 though.
G-Man
"w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
>
> i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> scheduled interval.
>
> how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> thank you
>
04-08-2007, 08:01 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
I just bought an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. It has plenty of power for most
purposes. I was going to buy the 6 but they encouraged me to test drive the
4 and I'm glad I did. The 6 costs a bunch more initially and more on
maintenance and with gas prices rising it was a no-brainer. I highly
recommend you try the 4 before you make your final decision. BTW, the chain
is extremely quiet. See for yourself.
"w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
>
> i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> scheduled interval.
>
> how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> thank you
>
purposes. I was going to buy the 6 but they encouraged me to test drive the
4 and I'm glad I did. The 6 costs a bunch more initially and more on
maintenance and with gas prices rising it was a no-brainer. I highly
recommend you try the 4 before you make your final decision. BTW, the chain
is extremely quiet. See for yourself.
"w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1176049649.800582.9610@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
>i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
>
> i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> scheduled interval.
>
> how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> thank you
>
04-09-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
On Apr 9, 5:56 am, "bob zee" <bobz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> w wrote:
> > i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> > how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> more importantly, how hard is the v6 on tires, gas, maintenance,
v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
how hard could it possibly be on tires?
It weighs more than i4 naturally, the front end is heavier
so it will wear the fronts marginally more than i4. People rarely
run decent tires on accords anyway, so it's no big loss.
why do you even care? If you want one and can afford to run
it why not? Judging from your question you might not, therefore
to be on the safe side and allow for the possibility of the
$4-5 gas why won't you do yourself a favor and buy an i4
with a stick?
> w wrote:
> > i want to buy an 07 accord.
>
> > how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
>
> more importantly, how hard is the v6 on tires, gas, maintenance,
v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
how hard could it possibly be on tires?
It weighs more than i4 naturally, the front end is heavier
so it will wear the fronts marginally more than i4. People rarely
run decent tires on accords anyway, so it's no big loss.
why do you even care? If you want one and can afford to run
it why not? Judging from your question you might not, therefore
to be on the safe side and allow for the possibility of the
$4-5 gas why won't you do yourself a favor and buy an i4
with a stick?
04-09-2007, 12:29 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
> v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
> how hard could it possibly be on tires?
~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
the same tires doing the stopping and turning.
> It weighs more than i4 naturally, the front end is heavier
> so it will wear the fronts marginally more than i4. People rarely
> run decent tires on accords anyway, so it's no big loss.
> why do you even care? If you want one and can afford to run
> it why not? Judging from your question you might not, therefore
> to be on the safe side and allow for the possibility of the
> $4-5 gas why won't you do yourself a favor and buy an i4
> with a stick?
i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
:~)>
bob z.
> v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
> how hard could it possibly be on tires?
~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
the same tires doing the stopping and turning.
> It weighs more than i4 naturally, the front end is heavier
> so it will wear the fronts marginally more than i4. People rarely
> run decent tires on accords anyway, so it's no big loss.
> why do you even care? If you want one and can afford to run
> it why not? Judging from your question you might not, therefore
> to be on the safe side and allow for the possibility of the
> $4-5 gas why won't you do yourself a favor and buy an i4
> with a stick?
i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
:~)>
bob z.
04-09-2007, 12:59 PM
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And I LOVE my V6. So we are both happy :-)
BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain! I think the auto trans
shifts so much smoother on the V6 compared to the 4, but if you are
"Sticking" it, doesn't matter.
One of my sons has the LX4-Cyl 5-Spd (2005) and my other son has the EXV6
5-Spd (2006). I have my old '96 LX 4-Cyl beater and a 2006 EX-V6 NAV. The
wife has an '05 Pilot.
We are a Honda family for sure.
G-Man
do yourself a favor and buy an i4
>> with a stick?
>
> i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
> :~)>
>
> bob z.
>
BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain! I think the auto trans
shifts so much smoother on the V6 compared to the 4, but if you are
"Sticking" it, doesn't matter.
One of my sons has the LX4-Cyl 5-Spd (2005) and my other son has the EXV6
5-Spd (2006). I have my old '96 LX 4-Cyl beater and a 2006 EX-V6 NAV. The
wife has an '05 Pilot.
We are a Honda family for sure.
G-Man
do yourself a favor and buy an i4
>> with a stick?
>
> i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
> :~)>
>
> bob z.
>
04-09-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
In article <131ks7tn5jiuh33@news.supernews.com>,
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain!
Wow.
I have a 94 Lexus ES300 and I get 27-28mpg on the freeway. Are you
getting 29 on the freeway or in town?
If that's all you're getting on the freeway, try this: do two or three
full tanks of Shell V-Power, then start using Shell 87 octane fuel. See
what your mileage becomes.
Yeah, Shell gas overall is more expensive to buy than the grocery store
gas. But it turned out to be CHEAPER TO RUN than the grocery store gas,
because I got more miles out of each and every gallon.
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain!
Wow.
I have a 94 Lexus ES300 and I get 27-28mpg on the freeway. Are you
getting 29 on the freeway or in town?
If that's all you're getting on the freeway, try this: do two or three
full tanks of Shell V-Power, then start using Shell 87 octane fuel. See
what your mileage becomes.
Yeah, Shell gas overall is more expensive to buy than the grocery store
gas. But it turned out to be CHEAPER TO RUN than the grocery store gas,
because I got more miles out of each and every gallon.
04-09-2007, 02:20 PM
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It's mixed driving. Probably 50/50. Even my commute has a Mtn. I have to
cross.
I'll give the Comparison with those fuels a try. Right now I use Costco 87
Octane. Yeah, it's cheap gas, but it's always fresh! They pump more fuel
than anyone in town :-)
I used to use HighTest in my sportbike all the time (GSX-R1000), but it
never got any better mileage or performance I could tell. What I did notice
is you can hear more knock in it when the temp is 95-100. In those temps, I
go the higher octane.
BTW, I ran a tank of Nutec race fuel in it once, and on the Dyno, it boosted
the Hp +5. But at $90 a 5 Gallon can at the time, it really wasn't worth it
:-)
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <131ks7tn5jiuh33@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain!
>
> Wow.
>
> I have a 94 Lexus ES300 and I get 27-28mpg on the freeway. Are you
> getting 29 on the freeway or in town?
>
> If that's all you're getting on the freeway, try this: do two or three
> full tanks of Shell V-Power, then start using Shell 87 octane fuel. See
> what your mileage becomes.
>
> Yeah, Shell gas overall is more expensive to buy than the grocery store
> gas. But it turned out to be CHEAPER TO RUN than the grocery store gas,
> because I got more miles out of each and every gallon.
>
cross.
I'll give the Comparison with those fuels a try. Right now I use Costco 87
Octane. Yeah, it's cheap gas, but it's always fresh! They pump more fuel
than anyone in town :-)
I used to use HighTest in my sportbike all the time (GSX-R1000), but it
never got any better mileage or performance I could tell. What I did notice
is you can hear more knock in it when the temp is 95-100. In those temps, I
go the higher octane.
BTW, I ran a tank of Nutec race fuel in it once, and on the Dyno, it boosted
the Hp +5. But at $90 a 5 Gallon can at the time, it really wasn't worth it
:-)
G-Man
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-D9974A.14034109042007@nntp9.usenetserver.com...
> In article <131ks7tn5jiuh33@news.supernews.com>,
> "G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain!
>
> Wow.
>
> I have a 94 Lexus ES300 and I get 27-28mpg on the freeway. Are you
> getting 29 on the freeway or in town?
>
> If that's all you're getting on the freeway, try this: do two or three
> full tanks of Shell V-Power, then start using Shell 87 octane fuel. See
> what your mileage becomes.
>
> Yeah, Shell gas overall is more expensive to buy than the grocery store
> gas. But it turned out to be CHEAPER TO RUN than the grocery store gas,
> because I got more miles out of each and every gallon.
>
04-09-2007, 03:10 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
On 9 Apr 2007 09:29:16 -0700, "bob zee" <bobzee1@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
>> how hard could it possibly be on tires?
>
>~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
>the same tires doing the stopping and turning.
Neither is built for racing, and in city traffic and freeways under
80mph, you're lucky if you draw even 100hp out of either engine for
more than a few seconds in an average day. Well, maybe if you go up a
mountain pass on your commute. What wears tires is the extra weight
of the six, and whatever stress you get in handling. Or carrying bags
of cement in the trunk.
And that's where I think the four is better, the Accord frame is
better balanced with the lighter engine so there's less weight, less
direct stress, and less understeering stress with the four.
Though who cares, again, in normal use the six will probably get 60k
or more on OEM tires anyway. But just maybe, the four is a little
nicer to drive in some situations. In others, sure, getting another
80hp for a few seconds is more fun!
>i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
>:~)>
Me too, it's a work of technological art.
J.
>On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
>> how hard could it possibly be on tires?
>
>~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
>the same tires doing the stopping and turning.
Neither is built for racing, and in city traffic and freeways under
80mph, you're lucky if you draw even 100hp out of either engine for
more than a few seconds in an average day. Well, maybe if you go up a
mountain pass on your commute. What wears tires is the extra weight
of the six, and whatever stress you get in handling. Or carrying bags
of cement in the trunk.
And that's where I think the four is better, the Accord frame is
better balanced with the lighter engine so there's less weight, less
direct stress, and less understeering stress with the four.
Though who cares, again, in normal use the six will probably get 60k
or more on OEM tires anyway. But just maybe, the four is a little
nicer to drive in some situations. In others, sure, getting another
80hp for a few seconds is more fun!
>i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
>:~)>
Me too, it's a work of technological art.
J.
04-09-2007, 04:19 PM
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In article <uf3l13t0kljsp9ahrgesjnlen9ktc03hei@4ax.com>,
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> >i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
> >:~)>
>
> Me too, it's a work of technological art.
Oh, man, I couldn't agree more. A manual transmission, 4 cylinder Honda
is an absolute jewel of engineering. It won't die, you can't break it,
it just runs forever.
JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote:
> >i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
> >:~)>
>
> Me too, it's a work of technological art.
Oh, man, I couldn't agree more. A manual transmission, 4 cylinder Honda
is an absolute jewel of engineering. It won't die, you can't break it,
it just runs forever.
04-09-2007, 04:23 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
In article <131l104gobvgb45@news.supernews.com>,
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'll give the Comparison with those fuels a try. Right now I use Costco 87
> Octane. Yeah, it's cheap gas, but it's always fresh! They pump more fuel
> than anyone in town :-)
>
> I used to use HighTest in my sportbike all the time (GSX-R1000), but it
> never got any better mileage or performance I could tell. What I did notice
> is you can hear more knock in it when the temp is 95-100. In those temps, I
> go the higher octane.
The thing with the Shell V-Power is not the octane level, but the level
of fuel system cleaners it has. A couple tanks of V-Power will clean
out any of the Costco-sourced gunk you may have. Then it's OK to go
back to the specified 87 octane Shell, which has more cleaners than a
Costco tank will ever see but not as much as the V-Power. The 87 octane
Shell fuel will keep your system clean after it's been cleaned out.
Get your fuel system clean, and run Shell. Give yourself, say, 4-5
tanks total and see what happens. I'm thinking that if I'm getting
27-28mpg with a 94 Lexus with 175K miles on it, a newish Honda V6 should
do significantly better. But only with the right fuels (and I don't
mean octane rating, which has nothing to do with it).
If you have any questions, see Shell's web site about their Top Tier
fuel specification as recommended by Honda and Toyota.
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'll give the Comparison with those fuels a try. Right now I use Costco 87
> Octane. Yeah, it's cheap gas, but it's always fresh! They pump more fuel
> than anyone in town :-)
>
> I used to use HighTest in my sportbike all the time (GSX-R1000), but it
> never got any better mileage or performance I could tell. What I did notice
> is you can hear more knock in it when the temp is 95-100. In those temps, I
> go the higher octane.
The thing with the Shell V-Power is not the octane level, but the level
of fuel system cleaners it has. A couple tanks of V-Power will clean
out any of the Costco-sourced gunk you may have. Then it's OK to go
back to the specified 87 octane Shell, which has more cleaners than a
Costco tank will ever see but not as much as the V-Power. The 87 octane
Shell fuel will keep your system clean after it's been cleaned out.
Get your fuel system clean, and run Shell. Give yourself, say, 4-5
tanks total and see what happens. I'm thinking that if I'm getting
27-28mpg with a 94 Lexus with 175K miles on it, a newish Honda V6 should
do significantly better. But only with the right fuels (and I don't
mean octane rating, which has nothing to do with it).
If you have any questions, see Shell's web site about their Top Tier
fuel specification as recommended by Honda and Toyota.
04-09-2007, 09:28 PM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
True when new!!!! A bit down the line when the engines get a bit tired is
when you start to see the (big) difference.
MLD
"Don R" <kb3ca@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> I just bought an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. It has plenty of power for most
> purposes. I was going to buy the 6 but they encouraged me to test drive
the
> 4 and I'm glad I did. The 6 costs a bunch more initially and more on
> maintenance and with gas prices rising it was a no-brainer. I highly
> recommend you try the 4 before you make your final decision. BTW, the
chain
> is extremely quiet. See for yourself.
> "w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1176049649.800582.9610@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> >i want to buy an 07 accord.
> >
> > i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> > plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
> >
> > i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> > scheduled interval.
> >
> > how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
> >
> > thank you
> >
>
>
when you start to see the (big) difference.
MLD
"Don R" <kb3ca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:tnfSh.7636$AS6.4674@trnddc04...
> I just bought an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. It has plenty of power for most
> purposes. I was going to buy the 6 but they encouraged me to test drive
the
> 4 and I'm glad I did. The 6 costs a bunch more initially and more on
> maintenance and with gas prices rising it was a no-brainer. I highly
> recommend you try the 4 before you make your final decision. BTW, the
chain
> is extremely quiet. See for yourself.
> "w" <wp51dos@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1176049649.800582.9610@p77g2000hsh.googlegrou ps.com...
> >i want to buy an 07 accord.
> >
> > i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
> > plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.
> >
> > i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
> > scheduled interval.
> >
> > how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?
> >
> > thank you
> >
>
>
04-10-2007, 01:05 AM
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Re: accord v6 vs 4
On Apr 9, 9:29 am, "bob zee" <bobz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
> > how hard could it possibly be on tires?
>
> ~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
Would you like fries with that? Gotta wonder how you will
extract those 240 hp with a slushbox.
Besides, the only speed where you can overpower the wheels
is the first one and you need a rowing implement for that
to apply whatever TORQUE the engine can muster
to the LSDless frontend. 240hp sheesh.
I'm not disputing that V6 is pulling harder and the car accelerates
faster, but for shaving rubber quickly wheelspeen helps (as does
ABSlessness of brakes. Not an option on Accord
anyway).
> On Apr 9, 12:06 pm, isq...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
> > how hard could it possibly be on tires?
>
> ~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
Would you like fries with that? Gotta wonder how you will
extract those 240 hp with a slushbox.
Besides, the only speed where you can overpower the wheels
is the first one and you need a rowing implement for that
to apply whatever TORQUE the engine can muster
to the LSDless frontend. 240hp sheesh.
I'm not disputing that V6 is pulling harder and the car accelerates
faster, but for shaving rubber quickly wheelspeen helps (as does
ABSlessness of brakes. Not an option on Accord
anyway).