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02civic 07-12-2007 08:34 PM

air conditioning prob....maybe
 
when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty


Woody 07-12-2007 10:05 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
Have the computer checked for temporary codes. Cars are computers and
everything is controlled and monitered with the computers.


"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>




Woody 07-12-2007 10:05 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
Have the computer checked for temporary codes. Cars are computers and
everything is controlled and monitered with the computers.


"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>




Woody 07-12-2007 10:05 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
Have the computer checked for temporary codes. Cars are computers and
everything is controlled and monitered with the computers.


"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>




Michael Pardee 07-12-2007 11:44 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>
>

If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
as injector cleaner.

I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
idle?

Mike




Michael Pardee 07-12-2007 11:44 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>
>

If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
as injector cleaner.

I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
idle?

Mike




Michael Pardee 07-12-2007 11:44 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
"02civic" <whiskers0130@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty
>
>

If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
as injector cleaner.

I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
idle?

Mike




02civic 07-13-2007 03:24 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 11:44 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "02civic" <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> > get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> > ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> > and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> > stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> > turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty

>
> If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
> Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
> that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
> like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
> as injector cleaner.
>
> I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
> the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
> idle?
>
> Mike


air output does rise n fall. bought a recharge kit and gauge says my
freon level was fine to start with.ill try the goos gas theory, i do
use regular from exxon, maybe a higher octane will help....worth a shot


02civic 07-13-2007 03:24 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 11:44 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "02civic" <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> > get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> > ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> > and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> > stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> > turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty

>
> If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
> Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
> that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
> like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
> as injector cleaner.
>
> I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
> the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
> idle?
>
> Mike


air output does rise n fall. bought a recharge kit and gauge says my
freon level was fine to start with.ill try the goos gas theory, i do
use regular from exxon, maybe a higher octane will help....worth a shot


02civic 07-13-2007 03:24 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 11:44 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "02civic" <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184286898.695646.165510@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> > get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> > ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> > and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> > stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> > turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty

>
> If you have been using cheap gas, try a tank of "top tier" gasoline like
> Chevron, Texaco or Shell. (I think BP is top tier also, but we don't have
> that here.) Alternatively, you can add a bottle of fuel injector cleaner
> like Techron, but my experience is that a tank of good gas is as effective
> as injector cleaner.
>
> I don't know what to think about the A/C output varying... are you saying
> the air flow rises and falls? And does this happen at all speeds or only at
> idle?
>
> Mike


air output does rise n fall. bought a recharge kit and gauge says my
freon level was fine to start with.ill try the goos gas theory, i do
use regular from exxon, maybe a higher octane will help....worth a shot


nm5k@wt.net 07-13-2007 03:58 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 7:34 pm, 02civic <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote:
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty


You may be having the compressor/clutch binding a bit ..
IE: the compressor is requiring a lot more energy to turn
than is normal. With a small engine, a tight compressor
can almost kill the engine if it's bad enough..
Once one locks up, the belt will squeal, and sometimes
will add enough drag to kill the engine if at idle.
Not saying this is the problem, but something to consider
if you have zero problems with the A/C off, but turning it
on feels like it wants to kill the engine.
The blower speed should not vary any more than in relation
to the voltage. But it will be normal to notice some reduction
of blower speed if the engine is close to stalling. This is
due to the lower output from the alternator during those
short times. But you shouldn't see anything really drastic,
or any on/off sputtering of the blower.
MK


nm5k@wt.net 07-13-2007 03:58 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 7:34 pm, 02civic <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote:
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty


You may be having the compressor/clutch binding a bit ..
IE: the compressor is requiring a lot more energy to turn
than is normal. With a small engine, a tight compressor
can almost kill the engine if it's bad enough..
Once one locks up, the belt will squeal, and sometimes
will add enough drag to kill the engine if at idle.
Not saying this is the problem, but something to consider
if you have zero problems with the A/C off, but turning it
on feels like it wants to kill the engine.
The blower speed should not vary any more than in relation
to the voltage. But it will be normal to notice some reduction
of blower speed if the engine is close to stalling. This is
due to the lower output from the alternator during those
short times. But you shouldn't see anything really drastic,
or any on/off sputtering of the blower.
MK


nm5k@wt.net 07-13-2007 03:58 PM

Re: air conditioning prob....maybe
 
On Jul 12, 7:34 pm, 02civic <whiskers0...@aol.com> wrote:
> when i use my air conditioning theres are times, frequently enough to
> get worried this could be a bigger problem at a later date if
> ignored!, when the car feels jerky; as if im tapping the gas pedal
> and also the air conditionings output will feel sputterry, like its
> stuttering. both problems occur at same time and both cease when i
> turn off air conditioning. any advice will be appreciated!!ty


You may be having the compressor/clutch binding a bit ..
IE: the compressor is requiring a lot more energy to turn
than is normal. With a small engine, a tight compressor
can almost kill the engine if it's bad enough..
Once one locks up, the belt will squeal, and sometimes
will add enough drag to kill the engine if at idle.
Not saying this is the problem, but something to consider
if you have zero problems with the A/C off, but turning it
on feels like it wants to kill the engine.
The blower speed should not vary any more than in relation
to the voltage. But it will be normal to notice some reduction
of blower speed if the engine is close to stalling. This is
due to the lower output from the alternator during those
short times. But you shouldn't see anything really drastic,
or any on/off sputtering of the blower.
MK



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