Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003
After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light
staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a cellphone" and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the malfunction to repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it complete BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / Santa Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called (daughter and I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where they AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the phone in the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" and asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now being serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem (which they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled something" on the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the seat a few weeks before. So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR don't let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem serious defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003
Stud Muffin wrote:
> After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light > staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a cellphone" > and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the malfunction to > repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it complete > BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / Santa > Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called (daughter and > I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where they > AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the phone in > the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! > > The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" and > asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now being > serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem (which > they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled something" on > the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the seat a > few weeks before. > > So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR don't > let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem serious > defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. ================= You could take this question over to hondasuv.com, and when you get the answer, bring it back for all to share . . . . 'Curly' |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003 PS
PS - How many failed airbags does Honda need before a recall? How many
fires before they replace the vehicles? "Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message news:mOednbtjzdbnGW3dRVn-uA@comcast.com... > Take this bulletin to your dealer. > > > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:M7XHc.63146$XM6.7511@attbi_s53... > > After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light > > staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a > cellphone" > > and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the malfunction > to > > repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it > complete > > BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / Santa > > Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called (daughter > and > > I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where > they > > AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the phone > in > > the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! > > > > The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" and > > asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now > being > > serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem (which > > they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled something" > on > > the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the seat > a > > few weeks before. > > > > So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR don't > > let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem serious > > defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<40F04CDF.9050903@interbaun.com>...
> Stud Muffin wrote: > > After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light > > staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a cellphone" > > and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the malfunction to > > repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it complete > > BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / Santa > > Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called (daughter and > > I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where they > > AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the phone in > > the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! > > > > The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" and > > asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now being > > serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem (which > > they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled something" on > > the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the seat a > > few weeks before. > > > > So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR don't > > let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem serious > > defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. if the seat gets wet it will cause problems, cellphones are notorious for causing interference, especially nextell phones. if she spilled something then it's her problem not hondas!!!!!!!! Chip |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003 PS
Now why in the hell would spilling something on the passenger have any
effect on the air bag? I'm not a mechanic so I don't know the answer. Is there some sort of trigger for the air bag in the seat? It doesn't seem logical. Bumper, yes, door maybe, seat....I don't think so. "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:%E0Ic.54194$MB3.981@attbi_s04... > PS - How many failed airbags does Honda need before a recall? How many > fires before they replace the vehicles? > "Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:mOednbtjzdbnGW3dRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > Take this bulletin to your dealer. > > > > > > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:M7XHc.63146$XM6.7511@attbi_s53... > > > After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light > > > staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a > > cellphone" > > > and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the malfunction > > to > > > repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it > > complete > > > BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / Santa > > > Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called (daughter > > and > > > I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where > > they > > > AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the phone > > in > > > the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! > > > > > > The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" and > > > asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now > > being > > > serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem > (which > > > they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled > something" > > on > > > the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the > seat > > a > > > few weeks before. > > > > > > So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR > don't > > > let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem serious > > > defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Some cars have a sensor in the seat to detect if anyone is sitting
there. If the seat is empty, the air bag won't deploy. Perhaps that sensor was damaged by the spilled liquid? lkitesplit wrote: > > Now why in the hell would spilling something on the passenger have any > effect on the air bag? I'm not a mechanic so I don't know the answer. Is > there some sort of trigger for the air bag in the seat? It doesn't seem > logical. Bumper, yes, door maybe, seat....I don't think so. > > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:%E0Ic.54194$MB3.981@attbi_s04... > > PS - How many failed airbags does Honda need before a recall? How many > > fires before they replace the vehicles? > > "Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:mOednbtjzdbnGW3dRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > > Take this bulletin to your dealer. > > > > > > > > > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > news:M7XHc.63146$XM6.7511@attbi_s53... > > > > After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light > > > > staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a > > > cellphone" > > > > and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the > malfunction > > > to > > > > repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it > > > complete > > > > BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / > Santa > > > > Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called > (daughter > > > and > > > > I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where > > > they > > > > AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the > phone > > > in > > > > the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! > > > > > > > > The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" > and > > > > asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now > > > being > > > > serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem > > (which > > > > they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled > > something" > > > on > > > > the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the > > seat > > > a > > > > few weeks before. > > > > > > > > So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR > > don't > > > > let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem > serious > > > > defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003 PS
lkitesplit wrote:
> Now why in the hell would spilling something on the passenger have any > effect on the air bag? I'm not a mechanic so I don't know the answer. Is > there some sort of trigger for the air bag in the seat? It doesn't seem > logical. Bumper, yes, door maybe, seat....I don't think so. > > > > > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:%E0Ic.54194$MB3.981@attbi_s04... > >>PS - How many failed airbags does Honda need before a recall? How many >>fires before they replace the vehicles? >>"Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message >>news:mOednbtjzdbnGW3dRVn-uA@comcast.com... >> >>>Take this bulletin to your dealer. >>> >>> >>>"Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>news:M7XHc.63146$XM6.7511@attbi_s53... >>> >>>>After the 3rd service for my daughter's 2003 CR-V for the airbag light >>>>staying illuminated, the dealer told her it is because "she has a >>> >>>cellphone" >>> >>>>and that using the cellphone in the front seat may cause the > > malfunction > >>>to >>> >>>>repeat. Incredulous, she called me and asked if I didn't think it >>> >>>complete >>> >>>>BULLSHIT. I did. So the Service Manger (Vicki - Honda, Goleta / > > Santa > >>>>Barbara California) called me and CONFIRMED this. We called > > (daughter > >>>and >>> >>>>I via conference call) Customer Relations in Torrence California where >>> >>>they >>> >>>>AGAIN CONFIRMED this problem The Rep told my daughter to use the > > phone > >>>in >>> >>>>the back seat and not place it in the front of the car! >>>> >>>>The dealer / Vicki / called and said they wanted to "try something" > > and > >>>>asked for the car again, and that they had "ordered a part." ---- Now >>> >>>being >>> >>>>serviced for the 4th time in the year, they now claimed the problem >> >>(which >> >>>>they failed to diagnose week before) was that she had "spilled >> >>something" >> >>>on >>> >>>>the passenger seat. Well, in fact, she HAD spilled something on the >> >>seat >> >>>a >>> >>>>few weeks before. >>>> >>>>So what to believe? Cellphones deactivate airbag systems AND / OR >> >>don't >> >>>>let the passenger seat get wet? EITHER one of these would seem > > serious > >>>>defects warranting recall or warning to consumers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > Hi, The air bag sensor. If there is nobody on the passenger seat, it disables air bag on that side. I think most cars do this. Tony |
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Apparently there are sensors in the seats... not to explode if empty... not
to hit a child?.... but I do think it foreseeable that seats get wet. Did anyone ever leave their window open (or sunroof) and a sudden rainstorm occurred? I guess that doesn't happen in Japan. Between the airbags, fires, and other recalls, (brakes, transmission cables)... GM is lookin' good. "lkitesplit" <lkitesplit1023@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:-eWdnfTFLK5FLG3d4p2dnA@comcast.com... > Now why in the hell would spilling something on the passenger have any > effect on the air bag? I'm not a mechanic so I don't know the answer. Is > there some sort of trigger for the air bag in the seat? It doesn't seem > logical. Bumper, yes, door maybe, seat....I don't think so. > |
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"Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:0rcIc.52185$JR4.34758@attbi_s54... > >GM is lookin' good. As long as you have a tow truck on retainer, go for it! ;^) -- Brian Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003 PS
"Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<0rcIc.52185$JR4.34758@attbi_s54>...
> Apparently there are sensors in the seats... not to explode if empty... not > to hit a child?.... but I do think it foreseeable that seats get wet. Did > anyone ever leave their window open (or sunroof) and a sudden rainstorm > occurred? I guess that doesn't happen in Japan. Between the airbags, > fires, and other recalls, (brakes, transmission cables)... GM is lookin' > good. > > yes there are sensors in the seats. The OPDS system determins if a passenger is tall enough and or weighs enough for the side air bag to deploy, of course they could do away with this and have the side airbag rip the head off of your passenger if that's more to your liking. personall i think airbags should be an option. the government is the only reason the issues come up at all. further, if someone spilled something on the seat and caused the problem it should cost you dearly to fix it, it's not hondas fault the daughter can't keep from spilling things!!!! Chip |
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I wish I could shut mine off. At what speed do they deploy?? 10-12 mph??
I've hit things in a go cart faster than that as a kid. Who wants to be punched in the face by an air bag? Not me... John "Chip Stein" <chip@chipanddebby.com> wrote in message news:5ddcea74.0407111202.6a3c9fd4@posting.google.c om... > "Stud Muffin" <hplaw@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<0rcIc.52185$JR4.34758@attbi_s54>... > > Apparently there are sensors in the seats... not to explode if empty... not > > to hit a child?.... but I do think it foreseeable that seats get wet. Did > > anyone ever leave their window open (or sunroof) and a sudden rainstorm > > occurred? I guess that doesn't happen in Japan. Between the airbags, > > fires, and other recalls, (brakes, transmission cables)... GM is lookin' > > good. > > > > > > yes there are sensors in the seats. The OPDS system determins if a > passenger is tall enough and or weighs enough for the side air bag to > deploy, of course they could do away with this and have the side > airbag rip the head off of your passenger if that's more to your > liking. > personall i think airbags should be an option. the government is > the only reason the issues come up at all. > further, if someone spilled something on the seat and caused the > problem it should cost you dearly to fix it, it's not hondas fault the > daughter can't keep from spilling things!!!! > Chip |
Re: Airbags / Cellphones CR-V 2003
I have a 2000 accord and if the passenger seat has anything other than a
person in it my airbag light stays on. i first noticed this one day after i got out of class, i put my bookbag in the seat and the light came on and it does this even if the cell phone is laying in the seat. |
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