Lawrence Adler

According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
problem?


-LMA

Burnt@ut

He was probably referring to torque steer, which can be noticeable on
starting up fast from a stop sometimes, but shouldn't be an ongoing
situation. On a 4 cyl with an automatic you shouldn't be able to
notice it.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:54:26 GMT, "Lawrence Adler"
<adl001@earthlink.net> wrote:

>According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
>LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
>right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
>problem?
>
>
>-LMA
>

John Horner

Lawrence Adler wrote:
> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
> LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
> right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
> problem?
>
>
> -LMA
>
>


BS. My '03 tracks straight and it is the same design.

John

jim beam

Lawrence Adler wrote:
> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
> LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
> right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
> problem?
>
>
> -LMA
>
>
blowing smoke. don't buy from this guy. test drive at another dealer
for proof.

jim beam

Burnt@ut wrote:
> He was probably referring to torque steer, which can be noticeable on
> starting up fast from a stop sometimes, but shouldn't be an ongoing
> situation. On a 4 cyl with an automatic you shouldn't be able to
> notice it.

torque steer depends on relative wind-up, which is usually a function of
driveshaft length. the 05 accord's have driveshafts /very/ close in
length, so any torque steer will be minimal. automatic or not is
irrelevant - it's the amount of torque transmitted, hence its name. and
no, this dealer was blowing smoke. the vehicle should track straight.
it was probably damaged on a test drive or in shipping.

>
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:54:26 GMT, "Lawrence Adler"
> <adl001@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
>>LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
>>right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
>>problem?
>>
>>
>>-LMA
>>

M.Paul

2005 CRVs have a very well-known pull to the right problem. Just google
"crv pull right" and you'll see. I'm not aware that the problem affects the
Accords. Also, when at a car lot, I would never believe a word that comes
out of a car salesman's mouth.

"Lawrence Adler" <adl001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
> LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
> right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
> problem?
>
>
> -LMA
>
>

High Tech Misfit

M.Paul wrote:

> 2005 CRVs have a very well-known pull to the right problem. Just google
> "crv pull right" and you'll see. I'm not aware that the problem affects the
> Accords. Also, when at a car lot, I would never believe a word that comes
> out of a car salesman's mouth.

It could also be that the car simply needs a wheel alignment. It's not
unusual for a new car to need one upon arriving at the dealer.

Dave L

"Lawrence Adler" <adl001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:SYk_e.4529$oc.4326@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
> LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
> right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
> problem?
>
>
> -LMA


My '05 LX is fine. Don't buy from this salesman/dealer. If this particular
Accord is doing this, you could also try another Accord or try a different
dealer. Drive on a FLAT stretch of road.

-Dave

bwstuart@comcast.net

I Dont know what year Accord you test drove, but my 93 accor pulls a
little to the right sometimes, and when i accellerate hard in a right
turn it pulls also... I think my problem is somewhat of an alignment
problem but it is caused by being frontwheel drive, a rearwheel drive
car that is off alignment just a little wont pull to the side like a
fwd car will, the the salesman was not exactly lying to you, he just
wasn't telling you the whole truth

bwstuart@comcast.net

I know you drove a 2005 accord, but my 93 accord pulls a little to the
right sometimes, and when i accellerate hard in a right turn it pulls
also... I think my problem is somewhat of an alignment problem but it
is caused by being frontwheel drive, a rearwheel drive car that is off
alignment just a little wont pull to the side like a fwd car will, the
the salesman was not exactly lying to you, he just wasn't telling you
the whole truth Either way, a car shouldnt do what you are
describing... there is a problem with that specific car, not the series

L Alpert

Lawrence Adler wrote:
> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an
> Accord LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull
> slightly yo the right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred
> the same line or problem?
>
>
> -LMA

Give this guy the hook.

TomP

Typically Honda defines a "pull" as a full lane change in less than 6 seconds
at 60 mph on a flat road. A drift would be a full lane change, same
conditions, in 6 seconds or longer. A car that "drifts" one full lane at 60
mph in 6 seconds or longer is within accepted industry standards, thus is
normal.

Here is the procedure your Honda dealer might use to verify your complaint:

1. Check if your customer has original equipment
wheels and tires and that the ride height hasn’t
been modified.
• If the wheels, tires, and ride height are OK,
go to step 2.
• If the wheels or tires aren’t original
equipment or the ride height was modified,
stop here. Aftermarket wheels or tires or a
ride height that’s been modified pose
challenges that this article doesn’t cover.
Resolve these issues with your customer
before going further.
2. Set the tire pressures to the recommended
cold inflation values listed on the doorjamb
sticker.
3. Find a straight stretch of 4-lane road where
you can safely (and legally) go 60 mph for
several minutes. Ideally, you want a road that’s
perfectly flat, but most roads have a crown
that’s anywhere from 1.5° to 1.75° so they can
drain.
• Flat Road - While driving at 60 mph, use a
stopwatch to time how long it takes to drift
one full lane from center to center. Record
the time. Repeat this, driving in the opposite
direction to cancel the effects of wind, then
average the two times you recorded.
• Crowned Road - While driving at 60 mph,
check if the vehicle climbs the crown. Do
this for both a left- and right-crowned road.
A drift to the right on a right-crowned road
and a drift to the left on a left-crowned road
are considered normal.


Lawrence Adler wrote:

> According to the Honda salesman during and after a test drive of an Accord
> LX because Accords are front wheel drive they all pull slightly yo the
> right. Seems a ilttle strange. Has anyone incurred the same line or
> problem?
>
> -LMA

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