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warlock162 07-31-2007 02:35 PM

Alternators
 
How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?

I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


Elle 07-31-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Alternators
 
It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.

See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
posted here in the past.

"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>




Elle 07-31-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Alternators
 
It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.

See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
posted here in the past.

"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>




Elle 07-31-2007 03:03 PM

Re: Alternators
 
It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.

See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
posted here in the past.

"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>




loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Alternators
 
Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
than economical.

I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

t

Elle wrote:
>It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>
>See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>posted here in the past.
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Alternators
 
Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
than economical.

I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

t

Elle wrote:
>It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>
>See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>posted here in the past.
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 06:48 PM

Re: Alternators
 
Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
than economical.

I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

t

Elle wrote:
>It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>
>See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>posted here in the past.
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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jim beam 07-31-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Alternators
 
warlock162 wrote:
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>


100-150k, depending on use. on some makes [denso], you can replace
brushes as a cheapo life extension. on others [mitsubishi], you can't
and your only option is replacement. unless you're into recreational
alternator repair, just get a reconditioned unit from a reputable source
that offers decent warranties.

jim beam 07-31-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Alternators
 
warlock162 wrote:
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>


100-150k, depending on use. on some makes [denso], you can replace
brushes as a cheapo life extension. on others [mitsubishi], you can't
and your only option is replacement. unless you're into recreational
alternator repair, just get a reconditioned unit from a reputable source
that offers decent warranties.

jim beam 07-31-2007 11:05 PM

Re: Alternators
 
warlock162 wrote:
> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>


100-150k, depending on use. on some makes [denso], you can replace
brushes as a cheapo life extension. on others [mitsubishi], you can't
and your only option is replacement. unless you're into recreational
alternator repair, just get a reconditioned unit from a reputable source
that offers decent warranties.

jim beam 07-31-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Alternators
 
loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
> caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
> than economical.
>
> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.


you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.


>
> t
>
> Elle wrote:
>> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>> alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>> assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>>
>> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>> more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>> posted here in the past.
>>
>>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>>
>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>


jim beam 07-31-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Alternators
 
loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
> caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
> than economical.
>
> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.


you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.


>
> t
>
> Elle wrote:
>> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>> alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>> assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>>
>> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>> more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>> posted here in the past.
>>
>>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>>
>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>


jim beam 07-31-2007 11:07 PM

Re: Alternators
 
loewent via CarKB.com wrote:
> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This
> caused to rotor to dig into the copper stator assembly, making a rebuild less
> than economical.
>
> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.


you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.


>
> t
>
> Elle wrote:
>> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole
>> alternator say, that are most likely to fail at this point,
>> assuming the alternator has not had anything else go wrong.
>>
>> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for
>> more discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been
>> posted here in the past.
>>
>>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>>
>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>


loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Alternators
 
at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol

Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I discover
that the stator was beyond repair...

t

jim beam wrote:
>> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
>> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
>> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

>
>you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
>ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.
>
>> t
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Alternators
 
at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol

Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I discover
that the stator was beyond repair...

t

jim beam wrote:
>> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
>> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
>> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

>
>you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
>ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.
>
>> t
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 07-31-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Alternators
 
at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol

Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I discover
that the stator was beyond repair...

t

jim beam wrote:
>> Failure on my 98 civic LX occured at 178000kms (110000mi). Failure mode was
>> the bearings. They failed, which allowed the center shaft to shift. This

>[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> I actually replaced it with an alternator from the wrecker. $95 for a unit
>> with only 118000kms (73000mi) on it.

>
>you should come to norcal. you can get alternators, sometimes _new_
>ones if you're lucky, from junkyards for $35.
>
>> t
>>

>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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Eric 08-01-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Alternators
 
"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>
> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
> discover that the stator was beyond repair...


maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
than a whole new alternator.

Eric 08-01-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Alternators
 
"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>
> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
> discover that the stator was beyond repair...


maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
than a whole new alternator.

Eric 08-01-2007 12:01 AM

Re: Alternators
 
"loewent via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>
> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
> discover that the stator was beyond repair...


maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
than a whole new alternator.

Gordon McGrew 08-01-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org>
wrote:

>How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
>I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


Here is my experience with Honda alternators:

'74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
'80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
'86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
'94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
'98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator

In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
YMMV.





Gordon McGrew 08-01-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org>
wrote:

>How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
>I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


Here is my experience with Honda alternators:

'74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
'80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
'86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
'94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
'98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator

In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
YMMV.





Gordon McGrew 08-01-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org>
wrote:

>How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
>I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


Here is my experience with Honda alternators:

'74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
'80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
'86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
'94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
'98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator

In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
YMMV.





loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Alternators
 
By the time the noise was noticeable it was too late. The whine was the
stator being eaten away.

Eric wrote:
>> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>>
>> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
>> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
>> discover that the stator was beyond repair...

>
>maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
>it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
>than a whole new alternator.


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loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Alternators
 
By the time the noise was noticeable it was too late. The whine was the
stator being eaten away.

Eric wrote:
>> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>>
>> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
>> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
>> discover that the stator was beyond repair...

>
>maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
>it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
>than a whole new alternator.


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loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Alternators
 
By the time the noise was noticeable it was too late. The whine was the
stator being eaten away.

Eric wrote:
>> at the time, $35 US was about $95 canadian.... lol
>>
>> Also, just a note, that the failure mode I listed had a noticeable whine
>> before it failed for quite some time. Only upon disassembly did I
>> discover that the stator was beyond repair...

>
>maybe next time your car tries to tell you something you should listen to
>it, putting new bearings in the alternator is fairly easy and costs less
>than a whole new alternator.


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mred 08-01-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Aug 1, 12:22 am, Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVr...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <b...@dwsd.org>
> wrote:
>
> >How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?

>
> >I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>
> Here is my experience with Honda alternators:
>
> '74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
> '98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator
>
> In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
> YMMV.


`86 accord 90,000 miles and 150,000 miles alternator replacements
mred


mred 08-01-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Aug 1, 12:22 am, Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVr...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <b...@dwsd.org>
> wrote:
>
> >How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?

>
> >I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>
> Here is my experience with Honda alternators:
>
> '74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
> '98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator
>
> In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
> YMMV.


`86 accord 90,000 miles and 150,000 miles alternator replacements
mred


mred 08-01-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Alternators
 
On Aug 1, 12:22 am, Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVr...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:49 -0400, "warlock162" <b...@dwsd.org>
> wrote:
>
> >How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?

>
> >I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.

>
> Here is my experience with Honda alternators:
>
> '74 Civic 70K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '80 Accord 85K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '86 Integra 115K sold with original alternator still operational.
> '94 Integra GS-R 161K still running on original alternator
> '98 Odyssey 85K still running on original alternator
>
> In 33 years of Honda ownership I have never replaced an alternator.
> YMMV.


`86 accord 90,000 miles and 150,000 miles alternator replacements
mred


Jeff 08-01-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Alternators
 
im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
cause it to go bad.

-jeff


"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote in message
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> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>



Jeff 08-01-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Alternators
 
im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
cause it to go bad.

-jeff


"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote in message
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> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>



Jeff 08-01-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Alternators
 
im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
cause it to go bad.

-jeff


"warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote in message
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> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>
> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>



loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Alternators
 
it most definitely can. I would say more often than not that the battery and
alternator are replaced at the same time.

Jeff wrote:
>im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
>cause it to go bad.
>
> -jeff
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Alternators
 
it most definitely can. I would say more often than not that the battery and
alternator are replaced at the same time.

Jeff wrote:
>im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
>cause it to go bad.
>
> -jeff
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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loewent via CarKB.com 08-01-2007 05:59 PM

Re: Alternators
 
it most definitely can. I would say more often than not that the battery and
alternator are replaced at the same time.

Jeff wrote:
>im wondering if a battery thats getting weaker can strain the alternator and
>cause it to go bad.
>
> -jeff
>
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.


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Michael Pardee 08-07-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Alternators
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2ILri.12788$rR.212@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole alternator say,
> that are most likely to fail at this point, assuming the alternator has
> not had anything else go wrong.
>
> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for more
> discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been posted here in the
> past.
>


I second that, and will even hazard a number: 150K miles is a rough life
expectancy for alternator brushes. I've seen them go beyond 200K miles, but
150K miles or 200K km is a ballpark figure. 100K miles or 150K km is
premature IMO. For the rest of the alternator I think most last the life of
the car (but not all do by any means.) Aftermarket alternators are a whole
different thing, too.

> "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>>

>
>
>





Michael Pardee 08-07-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Alternators
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2ILri.12788$rR.212@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole alternator say,
> that are most likely to fail at this point, assuming the alternator has
> not had anything else go wrong.
>
> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for more
> discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been posted here in the
> past.
>


I second that, and will even hazard a number: 150K miles is a rough life
expectancy for alternator brushes. I've seen them go beyond 200K miles, but
150K miles or 200K km is a ballpark figure. 100K miles or 150K km is
premature IMO. For the rest of the alternator I think most last the life of
the car (but not all do by any means.) Aftermarket alternators are a whole
different thing, too.

> "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
>>
>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
>>

>
>
>





Michael Pardee 08-07-2007 01:26 PM

Re: Alternators
 
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:2ILri.12788$rR.212@newsread2.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> It's generally the alternator brushes, and not the whole alternator say,
> that are most likely to fail at this point, assuming the alternator has
> not had anything else go wrong.
>
> See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for more
> discussion, reflecting a fair amount of what's been posted here in the
> past.
>


I second that, and will even hazard a number: 150K miles is a rough life
expectancy for alternator brushes. I've seen them go beyond 200K miles, but
150K miles or 200K km is a ballpark figure. 100K miles or 150K km is
premature IMO. For the rest of the alternator I think most last the life of
the car (but not all do by any means.) Aftermarket alternators are a whole
different thing, too.

> "warlock162" <bray@dwsd.org> wrote
>> How long (in terms of mileage) does an alternator last?
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>> I have a 1998 Honda Civic EX sedan.
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