Re: Aptera diesel-electric hybrid car gets 300 miles per gallon and will cost $29k.
 

On Oct 11, 8:10 am, T. Keating <tkuse...@ktcnslt.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:21:58 -0700, BobG <bobgard...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Actually looks pretty slippery. .25KWhr per mile perhaps?
>
> EV1A did way better than that.. (~179Wh/mile)
>
> http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/eva/ev1_eva.pdf
>
> I suspect this design will be significantly more efficient.
>
> I.E. 3 instead of 4 wheels, reduced weight, my bet is that it
> consumes less than 100 Wh per mile.

Aptera has also eliminated one of the remaining aerodynamic obstacles
found on conventional cars -- the side-view mirrors. They have
replaced them with a camera and a dashboard monitor. The lack of side-
view mirrors probably wouldn't be street-legal on a car in the United
States. However, in the United States, a three-wheeled vehicle is,
legally speaking, not a car -- it is a motorcycle.


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Re: Aptera diesel-electric hybrid car gets 300 miles per gallon and will cost $29k.
 

On Oct 25, 7:23 pm, John Ladasky <lada...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 8:10 am, T. Keating <tkuse...@ktcnslt.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:21:58 -0700, BobG <bobgard...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >Actually looks pretty slippery. .25KWhr per mile perhaps?
>
> > EV1A did way better than that.. (~179Wh/mile)
>
> >http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/eva/ev1_eva.pdf
>
> > I suspect this design will be significantly more efficient.
>
> > I.E. 3 instead of 4 wheels, reduced weight, my bet is that it
> > consumes less than 100 Wh per mile.
>
> Aptera has also eliminated one of the remaining aerodynamic obstacles
> found on conventional cars -- the side-view mirrors. They have
> replaced them with a camera and a dashboard monitor. The lack of side-
> view mirrors probably wouldn't be street-legal on a car in the United
> States. However, in the United States, a three-wheeled vehicle is,
> legally speaking, not a car -- it is a motorcycle.

Mirrors are covered by state laws. I know that in my state (NH) an
inside mirror alone will get you through inspection. Outside mirrors
are required for vehicles where an inside rear view is blocked. I
haven't checked but I suspect that the camera set-up would be ok
without side mirrors in NH.

Bruce

Re: Aptera diesel-electric hybrid car gets 300 miles per gallon and will cost $29k.
 

On Oct 25, 7:23 pm, John Ladasky <lada...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 8:10 am, T. Keating <tkuse...@ktcnslt.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:21:58 -0700, BobG <bobgard...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >Actually looks pretty slippery. .25KWhr per mile perhaps?
>
> > EV1A did way better than that.. (~179Wh/mile)
>
> >http://avt.inel.gov/pdf/fsev/eva/ev1_eva.pdf
>
> > I suspect this design will be significantly more efficient.
>
> > I.E. 3 instead of 4 wheels, reduced weight, my bet is that it
> > consumes less than 100 Wh per mile.
>
> Aptera has also eliminated one of the remaining aerodynamic obstacles
> found on conventional cars -- the side-view mirrors. They have
> replaced them with a camera and a dashboard monitor. The lack of side-
> view mirrors probably wouldn't be street-legal on a car in the United
> States. However, in the United States, a three-wheeled vehicle is,
> legally speaking, not a car -- it is a motorcycle.

Mirrors are covered by state laws. I know that in my state (NH) an
inside mirror alone will get you through inspection. Outside mirrors
are required for vehicles where an inside rear view is blocked. I
haven't checked but I suspect that the camera set-up would be ok
without side mirrors in NH.

Bruce

Re: Aptera diesel-electric hybrid car gets 300 miles per gallon and will cost $29k.
 

On Oct 21, 6:46 pm, Broderick Crawford <bcrawford2...@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > Learn morehttp://Muvy.org
>
> If true it won't be allowed in the US. They will find or invent a
> problem with it.

That's very true, as not even the VW LUPO that could actually obtain a
sustained 100 empg under ideal conditions never got in, and I'm not
certain the VW Fox was any better off, but at least the Aptera diesel-
electric that's suggesting 300 empg at 20 mph (down-wind) kind of 2-
person clown-car option/scam, whereas in some of our grid-lock city
environments (like NYC) you can't hardly average but 10 mph, so it
could work as is, especially if it were a one cylinder 0.1 liter
diesel engine that's somehow micro turbocharged and running one heck
of a flywheel/alternator at 7,200 rpm, if not faster.

Aptera diesel-electric hybrid; following link comes with lots of
absolutely stupid graphics, spyware and butt loads of those crapolla
infomercial advertisings
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...uture_is_h.php

By the time it meets crash safety and many other essential standards,
it will not get much better than half of their projected empg, and
there's no such thing as HVAC.
- Brad Guth -

Re: Aptera diesel-electric hybrid car gets 300 miles per gallon and will cost $29k.
 

On Oct 21, 6:46 pm, Broderick Crawford <bcrawford2...@roadrunner.com>
wrote:
> Joe wrote:
> > Learn morehttp://Muvy.org
>
> If true it won't be allowed in the US. They will find or invent a
> problem with it.

That's very true, as not even the VW LUPO that could actually obtain a
sustained 100 empg under ideal conditions never got in, and I'm not
certain the VW Fox was any better off, but at least the Aptera diesel-
electric that's suggesting 300 empg at 20 mph (down-wind) kind of 2-
person clown-car option/scam, whereas in some of our grid-lock city
environments (like NYC) you can't hardly average but 10 mph, so it
could work as is, especially if it were a one cylinder 0.1 liter
diesel engine that's somehow micro turbocharged and running one heck
of a flywheel/alternator at 7,200 rpm, if not faster.

Aptera diesel-electric hybrid; following link comes with lots of
absolutely stupid graphics, spyware and butt loads of those crapolla
infomercial advertisings
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...uture_is_h.php

By the time it meets crash safety and many other essential standards,
it will not get much better than half of their projected empg, and
there's no such thing as HVAC.
- Brad Guth -