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rynniki 08-22-2004 08:29 AM

belt squeal
 
we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
wrong ?


motsco_ _ 08-22-2004 09:13 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?
>



=================

The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the
engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's
more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's
starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise.

It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted?

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 08-22-2004 09:13 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?
>



=================

The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the
engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's
more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's
starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise.

It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted?

'Curly'


rynniki 08-22-2004 06:07 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.


rynniki 08-22-2004 06:07 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.


Jason 08-22-2004 08:24 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?


It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.

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Jason 08-22-2004 08:24 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?


It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.

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Jeff Smith 08-22-2004 10:18 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the
clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a
chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you
shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a
50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always
be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping
then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for.


- Jeff



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the

clutch
> > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> > wrong ?

>
> It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
> but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
> sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
> they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
> alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
> have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.
>
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Jeff Smith 08-22-2004 10:18 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the
clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a
chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you
shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a
50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always
be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping
then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for.


- Jeff



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the

clutch
> > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> > wrong ?

>
> It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
> but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
> sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
> they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
> alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
> have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.
>
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rynniki 08-23-2004 08:40 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
to drive it around and all.


rynniki 08-23-2004 08:40 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
to drive it around and all.


Jason 08-23-2004 01:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
> can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> to drive it around and all.


If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
of the problem. You should open the hood.
One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
identify which belt is slipping.

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Jason 08-23-2004 01:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
> can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> to drive it around and all.


If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
of the problem. You should open the hood.
One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
identify which belt is slipping.

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Jeff Smith 08-23-2004 08:04 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.



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> In article
> <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned

or
> > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> > to drive it around and all.

>
> If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
> the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
> mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
> mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
> of the problem. You should open the hood.
> One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
> The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
> belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
> identify which belt is slipping.
>
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Jeff Smith 08-23-2004 08:04 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-2308041015540001@pm4-broad-3.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article
> <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned

or
> > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> > to drive it around and all.

>
> If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
> the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
> mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
> mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
> of the problem. You should open the hood.
> One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
> The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
> belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
> identify which belt is slipping.
>
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Jason 08-24-2004 12:49 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article <1_ednUcCoNmtG7fcRVn-iA@adelphia.com>, "Jeff Smith"
<jbsmith991@adelphia.net> wrote:

> well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
> 120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
> ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
> this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.


I agree with you and the other poster--the most likely source is the
clutch. If you did not install the new clutch, take it back and tell the
person that installed it that he needs to adjust it.

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Jason 08-24-2004 12:49 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article <1_ednUcCoNmtG7fcRVn-iA@adelphia.com>, "Jeff Smith"
<jbsmith991@adelphia.net> wrote:

> well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
> 120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
> ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
> this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.


I agree with you and the other poster--the most likely source is the
clutch. If you did not install the new clutch, take it back and tell the
person that installed it that he needs to adjust it.

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rynniki 08-24-2004 06:46 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
said it just needs to be adjusted.


rynniki 08-24-2004 06:46 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
said it just needs to be adjusted.


Jason 08-24-2004 01:59 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6fd326f02180996bd317891b4350642a@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
> throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
> said it just needs to be adjusted.


When you take it back, you can ask him whether or not he fixed the throw
out bearing. It's hard to second guess mechanics. I suppose that it is
possible that he took a close look at the throw out bearing and determined
that it did not need to be fixed or replaced. Mechanics and doctors can
make mistakes. It happens on a regular basis. I once read about a doctor
that accidently reversed the xray and ended up cutting off the wrong leg.

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Jason 08-24-2004 01:59 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6fd326f02180996bd317891b4350642a@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
> throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
> said it just needs to be adjusted.


When you take it back, you can ask him whether or not he fixed the throw
out bearing. It's hard to second guess mechanics. I suppose that it is
possible that he took a close look at the throw out bearing and determined
that it did not need to be fixed or replaced. Mechanics and doctors can
make mistakes. It happens on a regular basis. I once read about a doctor
that accidently reversed the xray and ended up cutting off the wrong leg.

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motsco_ _ 08-24-2004 03:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
> throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
> said it just needs to be adjusted.
>


=================

Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...

||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||

Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 08-24-2004 03:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
> throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you
> said it just needs to be adjusted.
>


=================

Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...

||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||

Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.

'Curly'


Jeff Smith 08-24-2004 09:39 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
it could be the fork but when my fork squeaks its only when i am pushing the
pedal all the way in (to the floor) and it makes a god aweful sound like a
dieing cat. the way i fixed it was to get some white lithium grease (kind
in a can with a straw like wd-40) and gently sprayed it on the forks fingers
making sure not to get the clutch disk. this can be done by sliding back
the fork boot on the front of the engine right behind the radiator. once
again i make no guarentees on my suggestions and it may not work for your
car. also spraying any type of grease in, near, around your clutch is
highly not reccomended.


"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:412B93C1.1090009@interbaun.com...
> rynniki wrote:
> > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix

the
> > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like

you
> > said it just needs to be adjusted.
> >

>
> =================
>
> Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
> needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
> Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...
>
> ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
> the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
> surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||
>
> Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
> rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.
>
> 'Curly'
>




Jeff Smith 08-24-2004 09:39 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
it could be the fork but when my fork squeaks its only when i am pushing the
pedal all the way in (to the floor) and it makes a god aweful sound like a
dieing cat. the way i fixed it was to get some white lithium grease (kind
in a can with a straw like wd-40) and gently sprayed it on the forks fingers
making sure not to get the clutch disk. this can be done by sliding back
the fork boot on the front of the engine right behind the radiator. once
again i make no guarentees on my suggestions and it may not work for your
car. also spraying any type of grease in, near, around your clutch is
highly not reccomended.


"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:412B93C1.1090009@interbaun.com...
> rynniki wrote:
> > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix

the
> > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like

you
> > said it just needs to be adjusted.
> >

>
> =================
>
> Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
> needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
> Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...
>
> ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
> the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
> surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||
>
> Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
> rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.
>
> 'Curly'
>




Jason 08-26-2004 02:44 PM

Re: belt squeal
 

> > =================
> >
> > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
> > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
> > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...
> >
> > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
> > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
> > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||
> >
> > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
> > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.
> >
> > 'Curly'


Curly,
This is good advice. However, don't you think that they mechanic that
messed up the job should be the person that repairs the problem for free?

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Jason 08-26-2004 02:44 PM

Re: belt squeal
 

> > =================
> >
> > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing
> > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that?
> > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual...
> >
> > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of
> > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner
> > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. |||||||
> >
> > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be
> > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'.
> >
> > 'Curly'


Curly,
This is good advice. However, don't you think that they mechanic that
messed up the job should be the person that repairs the problem for free?

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