belt squeal
we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or wrong ? |
Re: belt squeal
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > wrong ? > ================= The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise. It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted? 'Curly' |
Re: belt squeal
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > wrong ? > ================= The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise. It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted? 'Curly' |
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the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.
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the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.
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Re: belt squeal
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<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > wrong ? It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > wrong ? It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a 50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for. - Jeff "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2208041724100001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article > <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" > <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > > > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > > wrong ? > > It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it > but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be > sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If > they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the > alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics > have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
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My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a 50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for. - Jeff "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2208041724100001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article > <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" > <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > > > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch > > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or > > wrong ? > > It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it > but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be > sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If > they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the > alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics > have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
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the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok to drive it around and all. |
Re: belt squeal
the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok to drive it around and all. |
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<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok > to drive it around and all. If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source of the problem. You should open the hood. One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts. The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able identify which belt is slipping. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok > to drive it around and all. If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source of the problem. You should open the hood. One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts. The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able identify which belt is slipping. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told. "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2308041015540001@pm4-broad-3.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article > <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" > <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > > > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or > > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok > > to drive it around and all. > > If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from > the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I > mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have > mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source > of the problem. You should open the hood. > One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts. > The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the > belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able > identify which belt is slipping. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
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well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told. "Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:Jason-2308041015540001@pm4-broad-3.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article > <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" > <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > > > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or > > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok > > to drive it around and all. > > If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from > the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I > mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have > mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source > of the problem. You should open the hood. > One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts. > The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the > belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able > identify which belt is slipping. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
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In article <1_ednUcCoNmtG7fcRVn-iA@adelphia.com>, "Jeff Smith"
<jbsmith991@adelphia.net> wrote: > well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it > 120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging > ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for > this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told. I agree with you and the other poster--the most likely source is the clutch. If you did not install the new clutch, take it back and tell the person that installed it that he needs to adjust it. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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In article <1_ednUcCoNmtG7fcRVn-iA@adelphia.com>, "Jeff Smith"
<jbsmith991@adelphia.net> wrote: > well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it > 120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging > ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for > this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told. I agree with you and the other poster--the most likely source is the clutch. If you did not install the new clutch, take it back and tell the person that installed it that he needs to adjust it. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: belt squeal
thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you said it just needs to be adjusted. |
Re: belt squeal
thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the
throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you said it just needs to be adjusted. |
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<6fd326f02180996bd317891b4350642a@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > said it just needs to be adjusted. When you take it back, you can ask him whether or not he fixed the throw out bearing. It's hard to second guess mechanics. I suppose that it is possible that he took a close look at the throw out bearing and determined that it did not need to be fixed or replaced. Mechanics and doctors can make mistakes. It happens on a regular basis. I once read about a doctor that accidently reversed the xray and ended up cutting off the wrong leg. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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<6fd326f02180996bd317891b4350642a@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki" <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote: > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > said it just needs to be adjusted. When you take it back, you can ask him whether or not he fixed the throw out bearing. It's hard to second guess mechanics. I suppose that it is possible that he took a close look at the throw out bearing and determined that it did not need to be fixed or replaced. Mechanics and doctors can make mistakes. It happens on a regular basis. I once read about a doctor that accidently reversed the xray and ended up cutting off the wrong leg. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: belt squeal
rynniki wrote:
> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > said it just needs to be adjusted. > ================= Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. 'Curly' |
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rynniki wrote:
> thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > said it just needs to be adjusted. > ================= Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. 'Curly' |
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it could be the fork but when my fork squeaks its only when i am pushing the
pedal all the way in (to the floor) and it makes a god aweful sound like a dieing cat. the way i fixed it was to get some white lithium grease (kind in a can with a straw like wd-40) and gently sprayed it on the forks fingers making sure not to get the clutch disk. this can be done by sliding back the fork boot on the front of the engine right behind the radiator. once again i make no guarentees on my suggestions and it may not work for your car. also spraying any type of grease in, near, around your clutch is highly not reccomended. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:412B93C1.1090009@interbaun.com... > rynniki wrote: > > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > > said it just needs to be adjusted. > > > > ================= > > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... > > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| > > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. > > 'Curly' > |
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it could be the fork but when my fork squeaks its only when i am pushing the
pedal all the way in (to the floor) and it makes a god aweful sound like a dieing cat. the way i fixed it was to get some white lithium grease (kind in a can with a straw like wd-40) and gently sprayed it on the forks fingers making sure not to get the clutch disk. this can be done by sliding back the fork boot on the front of the engine right behind the radiator. once again i make no guarentees on my suggestions and it may not work for your car. also spraying any type of grease in, near, around your clutch is highly not reccomended. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:412B93C1.1090009@interbaun.com... > rynniki wrote: > > thanks guys so much for helping me out. i am wondering why he didnt fix the > > throw out bearing when he replaced the clutch. unless he did and like you > > said it just needs to be adjusted. > > > > ================= > > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... > > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| > > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. > > 'Curly' > |
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> > ================= > > > > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing > > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? > > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... > > > > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of > > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner > > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| > > > > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be > > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. > > > > 'Curly' Curly, This is good advice. However, don't you think that they mechanic that messed up the job should be the person that repairs the problem for free? -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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> > ================= > > > > Bearing may be new, but the part where the fork rubs on the bearing > > needs to be greased, and maybe he didn't know that? > > Here's a quote from a (Chiltons) CRV manual... > > > > ||||||| On re-assembly, apply a high temperature grease to the ears of > > the release fork where it contacts the release bearing, and to the inner > > surface of the release bearing and its guide tube. ||||||| > > > > Also, shortly after you replace a clutch is the time it should be > > rechecked because it wears a lot until it gets 'seated comfortably'. > > > > 'Curly' Curly, This is good advice. However, don't you think that they mechanic that messed up the job should be the person that repairs the problem for free? -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
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