Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!

IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.

I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.

>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands :)

Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.

Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!

IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.

I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.

>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands :)

Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.

Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote
Elle wrote
>> The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is
>> the following:
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=2068
>>
>> It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the
>> site above with you to the store to get the sale price.
>
> woo hoo... thats mine as well!

IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.

I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
ahead, I wanted something sturdy.

>> Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for
>> around $32. It is probably just fine.
>
> i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked
> due to exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and
> god-knows-what. not sure an all-plastic version would last
> that long in my hands :)

Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.

Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
bleed fine and very quick.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

......
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml

Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

......
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml

Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

......
>> I plan on using Motul Dot 5.1 fluid. Anyone have any
>> comments on this?
>
> Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
> the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
> with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
> there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
> for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
> E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml

Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT..._8070_(GB).pdf

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

SoCalMike wrote:
> Mike Doyle wrote:
.......
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.

> they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
> the rust belt, if thats where you are.


I'm in Illinois, & the 94 VX has been here for several years. I'm thinking
about going to SpeedBleeders if they come off.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

SoCalMike wrote:
> Mike Doyle wrote:
.......
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.

> they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
> the rust belt, if thats where you are.


I'm in Illinois, & the 94 VX has been here for several years. I'm thinking
about going to SpeedBleeders if they come off.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

SoCalMike wrote:
> Mike Doyle wrote:
.......
>> I'm getting ready to do a flush. Any trouble getting the
>> bleeders off? I don't know when mine were last touched,
>> & hope they don't cause trouble.

> they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
> the rust belt, if thats where you are.


I'm in Illinois, & the 94 VX has been here for several years. I'm thinking
about going to SpeedBleeders if they come off.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Pressure bleeding is quite convenient for me, and I haven't tried my
MityVac for brake bleeding purpose. I use Motive Product's "Power
Bleeder":

http://www.motiveproducts.com/

I see the price has gone up since the ~$49 days. I use 1qt of brake
fluid for each flush. Castrol GT LMA DOT-3/4.

Speed bleeders use the teflon seals (a tube is provided with the kit)
on the threads to prevent air from getting past the bleeder threads.
You might want to use the same stuff if going the MityVac route, or the
teflon tape others mentioned.

You can read the instructions on the Motive site and see if you want to
go the pressure bleeder route.

http://www.motiveproducts.com/10instruct.html

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Pressure bleeding is quite convenient for me, and I haven't tried my
MityVac for brake bleeding purpose. I use Motive Product's "Power
Bleeder":

http://www.motiveproducts.com/

I see the price has gone up since the ~$49 days. I use 1qt of brake
fluid for each flush. Castrol GT LMA DOT-3/4.

Speed bleeders use the teflon seals (a tube is provided with the kit)
on the threads to prevent air from getting past the bleeder threads.
You might want to use the same stuff if going the MityVac route, or the
teflon tape others mentioned.

You can read the instructions on the Motive site and see if you want to
go the pressure bleeder route.

http://www.motiveproducts.com/10instruct.html

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Pressure bleeding is quite convenient for me, and I haven't tried my
MityVac for brake bleeding purpose. I use Motive Product's "Power
Bleeder":

http://www.motiveproducts.com/

I see the price has gone up since the ~$49 days. I use 1qt of brake
fluid for each flush. Castrol GT LMA DOT-3/4.

Speed bleeders use the teflon seals (a tube is provided with the kit)
on the threads to prevent air from getting past the bleeder threads.
You might want to use the same stuff if going the MityVac route, or the
teflon tape others mentioned.

You can read the instructions on the Motive site and see if you want to
go the pressure bleeder route.

http://www.motiveproducts.com/10instruct.html

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcKdncI9R7xW98_ZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>
> even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
> threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>>

I'm sure everybody in this thread has it covered, but for the benefit of
casual readers: make sure the teflon tape stays on the threads and doesn't
overlap the nose of the nipple at all. Getting teflon debris in brakes
doesn't work well.

Mike

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcKdncI9R7xW98_ZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>
> even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
> threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>>

I'm sure everybody in this thread has it covered, but for the benefit of
casual readers: make sure the teflon tape stays on the threads and doesn't
overlap the nose of the nipple at all. Getting teflon debris in brakes
doesn't work well.

Mike

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"SoCalMike" <Mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bcKdncI9R7xW98_ZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>
> even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
> threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
>>

I'm sure everybody in this thread has it covered, but for the benefit of
casual readers: make sure the teflon tape stays on the threads and doesn't
overlap the nose of the nipple at all. Getting teflon debris in brakes
doesn't work well.

Mike

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"Bruce" <andrew.bruce@regions.com> wrote in
news:1146502189.979715.297920@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
> hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
> bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
> the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
> res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
> and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
> pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
> most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
> before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
> lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.
>
>

Can these be rented from a local tool rental store?
Any brand names I should ask for?

(I appreciate the reply,but it's nice and proper to include the text of the
post you responded to.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"Bruce" <andrew.bruce@regions.com> wrote in
news:1146502189.979715.297920@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
> hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
> bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
> the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
> res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
> and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
> pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
> most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
> before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
> lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.
>
>

Can these be rented from a local tool rental store?
Any brand names I should ask for?

(I appreciate the reply,but it's nice and proper to include the text of the
post you responded to.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

"Bruce" <andrew.bruce@regions.com> wrote in
news:1146502189.979715.297920@g10g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:

> Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
> hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
> bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
> the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
> res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
> and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
> pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
> most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
> before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
> lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.
>
>

Can these be rented from a local tool rental store?
Any brand names I should ask for?

(I appreciate the reply,but it's nice and proper to include the text of the
post you responded to.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Mike Doyle wrote:

> Elle wrote:
>
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?

I bought mine at Sears.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Mike Doyle wrote:

> Elle wrote:
>
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?

I bought mine at Sears.

Re: Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?
 

Mike Doyle wrote:

> Elle wrote:
>
>> ...I did a brake flush yesterday, by myself for the second time, on my
>> 91 Civic LX (176k miles). I use the Mity-Vac system ( a hand-held
>> vacuum pump, connecting to a small container to collect fluid, tubing,
>> and adapters).
>
>
> Hi Elle. No answers, but a few ? Where is a good source to
> buy the Mity-Vac?

I bought mine at Sears.