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bigjcw1023@gmail.com 09-05-2007 10:58 PM

Brake repair question
 
I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
Joel


Tegger 09-06-2007 07:22 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:

> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>
>



Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.

Were the anti-squeal shims reinstalled? Was there a tiny dab of Sil-Glyde
or M-77 put in the correct places on the shims?

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 09-06-2007 07:22 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:

> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>
>



Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.

Were the anti-squeal shims reinstalled? Was there a tiny dab of Sil-Glyde
or M-77 put in the correct places on the shims?

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Jack Pott 09-06-2007 08:10 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99A34ABC381AFtegger@207.14.116.130...
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
> 57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
>> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
>> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
>> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
>> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
>> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
>> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
>> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
>> Joel
>>
>>

>
>
> Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.
>



That's a surprising response.

Bendix sells aftermarket-- but like many major and old-line parts suppliers,
also sells those very same parts made on the very same assembly lines to the
auto manufacturers. They are a Tier One supplier.



Jack Pott 09-06-2007 08:10 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99A34ABC381AFtegger@207.14.116.130...
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
> 57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
>> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
>> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
>> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
>> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
>> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
>> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
>> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
>> Joel
>>
>>

>
>
> Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.
>



That's a surprising response.

Bendix sells aftermarket-- but like many major and old-line parts suppliers,
also sells those very same parts made on the very same assembly lines to the
auto manufacturers. They are a Tier One supplier.



Speedy Pete 09-06-2007 09:44 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
Ignore the previous posts.

The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
typically, rust on the piston.

Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.

Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.

-SP


bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>


Speedy Pete 09-06-2007 09:44 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
Ignore the previous posts.

The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
typically, rust on the piston.

Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.

Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.

-SP


bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>


bigjcw1023@gmail.com 09-06-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
On Sep 6, 9:44 am, Speedy Pete <speedythetrash.p...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> Ignore the previous posts.
>
> The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
> typically, rust on the piston.
>
> Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.
>
> Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.
>
> -SP


Do I take the caliper off, what is the procedure?
Joel
Incidentally, do I need shims?


bigjcw1023@gmail.com 09-06-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
On Sep 6, 9:44 am, Speedy Pete <speedythetrash.p...@verizon.net>
wrote:
> Ignore the previous posts.
>
> The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
> typically, rust on the piston.
>
> Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.
>
> Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.
>
> -SP


Do I take the caliper off, what is the procedure?
Joel
Incidentally, do I need shims?


M.Paul 09-06-2007 11:20 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99A34ABC381AFtegger@207.14.116.130...
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
> 57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
>> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
>> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
>> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
>> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
>> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
>> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
>> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
>> Joel
>>
>>

>
>
> Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.
>
> Were the anti-squeal shims reinstalled? Was there a tiny dab of Sil-Glyde
> or M-77 put in the correct places on the shims?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


My 2000 Si has done the same thing on 2 occassions with the original pads.
Both times I pulled over, stopped, move slightly back and forward and
problem gone. I figured that maybe some debris on the road got temporarily
caught in the brake area or something. Hasn't happened again in the past 5
years (and still on the original pads!)



M.Paul 09-06-2007 11:20 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99A34ABC381AFtegger@207.14.116.130...
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189047482.919331.134400@
> 57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
>> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
>> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
>> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
>> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
>> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
>> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
>> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
>> Joel
>>
>>

>
>
> Try OEM parts, not crappy aftermarket.
>
> Were the anti-squeal shims reinstalled? Was there a tiny dab of Sil-Glyde
> or M-77 put in the correct places on the shims?
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


My 2000 Si has done the same thing on 2 occassions with the original pads.
Both times I pulled over, stopped, move slightly back and forward and
problem gone. I figured that maybe some debris on the road got temporarily
caught in the brake area or something. Hasn't happened again in the past 5
years (and still on the original pads!)



Tegger 09-06-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189090196.038067.122530
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 6, 9:44 am, Speedy Pete <speedythetrash.p...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> Ignore the previous posts.
>>
>> The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
>> typically, rust on the piston.
>>
>> Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.
>>
>> Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.
>>
>> -SP

>
> Do I take the caliper off, what is the procedure?
> Joel
> Incidentally, do I need shims?
>



Your car came with anti-squeal shims from the factory, and they are
supposed to be used all the time. If yours are missing, the usual reason is
that the aftermarket pads were too thick so the tech simply left them off.

Anti-squeal potions are wholly unnecessary if the brakes are properly
serviced and OEM parts are used.

If one insists on fudging a fix rather than doing things properly, one
needs to remove the caliper, remove the pads, apply magic potion to back of
pads, reinstall.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 09-06-2007 12:52 PM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote in news:1189090196.038067.122530
@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 6, 9:44 am, Speedy Pete <speedythetrash.p...@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> Ignore the previous posts.
>>
>> The squeak is from the pad vibrating in the caliper because of
>> typically, rust on the piston.
>>
>> Buy yourself a spray can of Permatex Disk Brake Quiet.
>>
>> Some pads come with a similar coating already sprayed on.
>>
>> -SP

>
> Do I take the caliper off, what is the procedure?
> Joel
> Incidentally, do I need shims?
>



Your car came with anti-squeal shims from the factory, and they are
supposed to be used all the time. If yours are missing, the usual reason is
that the aftermarket pads were too thick so the tech simply left them off.

Anti-squeal potions are wholly unnecessary if the brakes are properly
serviced and OEM parts are used.

If one insists on fudging a fix rather than doing things properly, one
needs to remove the caliper, remove the pads, apply magic potion to back of
pads, reinstall.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

John Horner 09-12-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>



Did you use top-of-the line replacement parts or the lowest grade?
I've had good luck with both factory parts and with the highest grade
aftermarket parts like Raybestos QuietStops. I've had noisy brakes on
several vehicles with middle of the road and/or cheapest aftermarket parts.

I haven't seen Bendix branded aftermarket brake parts in years. It looks
like their aftermarket stuff is now part of the Honeywell aftermarket
product line, which line isn't always the best of the best IMO.


John Horner 09-12-2007 01:04 AM

Re: Brake repair question
 
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> I replaced my rotors and pads on my 1997 CRV with bendix parts. About
> 1000 miles later after driving at highway speed for 20 mile or so and
> then going to slower speed around 35MPH I get squealing from the
> brakes. I press the pedal to start stopping and the noise stops.
> What did I do wrong, or miss? The vehicle started doing this before I
> replaced the brakes, BUT I figured that it was worn parts becuase the
> pedal vibrated too. The pedal no longer vibrates and the vehicle
> seems to stop good. Thanks for your input.
> Joel
>



Did you use top-of-the line replacement parts or the lowest grade?
I've had good luck with both factory parts and with the highest grade
aftermarket parts like Raybestos QuietStops. I've had noisy brakes on
several vehicles with middle of the road and/or cheapest aftermarket parts.

I haven't seen Bendix branded aftermarket brake parts in years. It looks
like their aftermarket stuff is now part of the Honeywell aftermarket
product line, which line isn't always the best of the best IMO.



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