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Mo Man 04-15-2006 04:16 PM

A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
I have a 93 Honda Accord 5 speed standard that the A/C compressor won't turn
on.
I checked the fuse in the inside fuse panel, and it is good. I would think
because of the
current this unit would draw there would also be a relay to turn it on. If
there is one, can
some one tell me where it is located. The Haynes repair manual doesn't
really say to much
about the A/C side of things.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Mike



Michael Pardee 04-15-2006 07:19 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
" Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
news:ywc0g.86$vi3.7@fe02.lga...
>I have a 93 Honda Accord 5 speed standard that the A/C compressor won't
>turn
> on.
> I checked the fuse in the inside fuse panel, and it is good. I would think
> because of the
> current this unit would draw there would also be a relay to turn it on. If
> there is one, can
> some one tell me where it is located. The Haynes repair manual doesn't
> really say to much
> about the A/C side of things.
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
>
> Mike
>
>

One of the most common reasons for the compressor not engaging is loss of
refrigerant (freon). The sensor switch for that is right behind the left
high beam headlight, forward of the compressor. The switch should be closed
just sitting there. If you don't have an ohmmeter handy, you can also start
the engine and turn on the A/C full cold; momentarily shorting across the
contacts in the connector will engage the compressor if loss of refrigerant
is your problem. Don't run the compressor more than a moment that way.

There is also a relay, which the Helm manual indicates is the front one on
the driver's side of the engine compartment, almost hidden by the washer
fluid reservoir.

Sadly, '93 was the last year of using R-12. If the system has been converted
to R-134a there will be stickers under the hood. If not, and you need a
charge, you will probably find the cost of refilling with R-12 to be more
than conversion to R-134a... especially since there must be a leak if the
refrigerant is gone.

Mike



Michael Pardee 04-15-2006 07:19 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
" Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
news:ywc0g.86$vi3.7@fe02.lga...
>I have a 93 Honda Accord 5 speed standard that the A/C compressor won't
>turn
> on.
> I checked the fuse in the inside fuse panel, and it is good. I would think
> because of the
> current this unit would draw there would also be a relay to turn it on. If
> there is one, can
> some one tell me where it is located. The Haynes repair manual doesn't
> really say to much
> about the A/C side of things.
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer.
>
> Mike
>
>

One of the most common reasons for the compressor not engaging is loss of
refrigerant (freon). The sensor switch for that is right behind the left
high beam headlight, forward of the compressor. The switch should be closed
just sitting there. If you don't have an ohmmeter handy, you can also start
the engine and turn on the A/C full cold; momentarily shorting across the
contacts in the connector will engage the compressor if loss of refrigerant
is your problem. Don't run the compressor more than a moment that way.

There is also a relay, which the Helm manual indicates is the front one on
the driver's side of the engine compartment, almost hidden by the washer
fluid reservoir.

Sadly, '93 was the last year of using R-12. If the system has been converted
to R-134a there will be stickers under the hood. If not, and you need a
charge, you will probably find the cost of refilling with R-12 to be more
than conversion to R-134a... especially since there must be a leak if the
refrigerant is gone.

Mike



Mo Man 04-16-2006 02:29 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
Hi Mike,

The Freon pressure switch seems to be Ok, but the compressor still doesn't
engage. My Haynes
manual shows a A/C Thermo Switch in series with the Freon switch. Does your
Helm manual
give a location for that one? I'm in the process of checking out that relay
that is almost impossible to get at.

Thanks again for your help,

Mike

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:oLCdnW-WGIcF4tzZRVn-rw@sedona.net...
> " Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:ywc0g.86$vi3.7@fe02.lga...
> >I have a 93 Honda Accord 5 speed standard that the A/C compressor won't
> >turn
> > on.
> > I checked the fuse in the inside fuse panel, and it is good. I would

think
> > because of the
> > current this unit would draw there would also be a relay to turn it on.

If
> > there is one, can
> > some one tell me where it is located. The Haynes repair manual doesn't
> > really say to much
> > about the A/C side of things.
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >

> One of the most common reasons for the compressor not engaging is loss of
> refrigerant (freon). The sensor switch for that is right behind the left
> high beam headlight, forward of the compressor. The switch should be

closed
> just sitting there. If you don't have an ohmmeter handy, you can also

start
> the engine and turn on the A/C full cold; momentarily shorting across the
> contacts in the connector will engage the compressor if loss of

refrigerant
> is your problem. Don't run the compressor more than a moment that way.
>
> There is also a relay, which the Helm manual indicates is the front one on
> the driver's side of the engine compartment, almost hidden by the washer
> fluid reservoir.
>
> Sadly, '93 was the last year of using R-12. If the system has been

converted
> to R-134a there will be stickers under the hood. If not, and you need a
> charge, you will probably find the cost of refilling with R-12 to be more
> than conversion to R-134a... especially since there must be a leak if the
> refrigerant is gone.
>
> Mike
>
>




Mo Man 04-16-2006 02:29 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
Hi Mike,

The Freon pressure switch seems to be Ok, but the compressor still doesn't
engage. My Haynes
manual shows a A/C Thermo Switch in series with the Freon switch. Does your
Helm manual
give a location for that one? I'm in the process of checking out that relay
that is almost impossible to get at.

Thanks again for your help,

Mike

"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
news:oLCdnW-WGIcF4tzZRVn-rw@sedona.net...
> " Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:ywc0g.86$vi3.7@fe02.lga...
> >I have a 93 Honda Accord 5 speed standard that the A/C compressor won't
> >turn
> > on.
> > I checked the fuse in the inside fuse panel, and it is good. I would

think
> > because of the
> > current this unit would draw there would also be a relay to turn it on.

If
> > there is one, can
> > some one tell me where it is located. The Haynes repair manual doesn't
> > really say to much
> > about the A/C side of things.
> >
> > Thanks for any help you can offer.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >

> One of the most common reasons for the compressor not engaging is loss of
> refrigerant (freon). The sensor switch for that is right behind the left
> high beam headlight, forward of the compressor. The switch should be

closed
> just sitting there. If you don't have an ohmmeter handy, you can also

start
> the engine and turn on the A/C full cold; momentarily shorting across the
> contacts in the connector will engage the compressor if loss of

refrigerant
> is your problem. Don't run the compressor more than a moment that way.
>
> There is also a relay, which the Helm manual indicates is the front one on
> the driver's side of the engine compartment, almost hidden by the washer
> fluid reservoir.
>
> Sadly, '93 was the last year of using R-12. If the system has been

converted
> to R-134a there will be stickers under the hood. If not, and you need a
> charge, you will probably find the cost of refilling with R-12 to be more
> than conversion to R-134a... especially since there must be a leak if the
> refrigerant is gone.
>
> Mike
>
>




Michael Pardee 04-16-2006 04:54 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
" Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
news:65w0g.7$er5.6@fe07.lga...
> Hi Mike,
>
> The Freon pressure switch seems to be Ok, but the compressor still
> doesn't
> engage. My Haynes
> manual shows a A/C Thermo Switch in series with the Freon switch. Does
> your
> Helm manual
> give a location for that one? I'm in the process of checking out that
> relay
> that is almost impossible to get at.
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> Mike
>

That must be the one buried in the evaporator - the manual shows how to test
it if it is removed :-(

The relay shouldn't be too bad to get to if you remove the mounting
bracket - just the one bolt. But that area is mighty crowded.

Mike



Michael Pardee 04-16-2006 04:54 PM

Re: A/C Compress Doesn't Turn On
 
" Mo Man" <mo_man@charter.net> wrote in message
news:65w0g.7$er5.6@fe07.lga...
> Hi Mike,
>
> The Freon pressure switch seems to be Ok, but the compressor still
> doesn't
> engage. My Haynes
> manual shows a A/C Thermo Switch in series with the Freon switch. Does
> your
> Helm manual
> give a location for that one? I'm in the process of checking out that
> relay
> that is almost impossible to get at.
>
> Thanks again for your help,
>
> Mike
>

That must be the one buried in the evaporator - the manual shows how to test
it if it is removed :-(

The relay shouldn't be too bad to get to if you remove the mounting
bracket - just the one bolt. But that area is mighty crowded.

Mike




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