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Tegger 05-10-2007 06:14 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:dLOdnSmsHriKPd_bnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> Tegger wrote:
>> highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in news:1178636660.824881.184980
>> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> Did anyone ever have to replace the sliding pin boots on a 2003
>>> accord 4 cyl? I need to replace all 8 of them but the dealer wants
>>> $50 for just one side. This is a ripoff. Does anyone know where one
>>> can purchase these without having to purchase the entire caliper
>>> overhaul kit?
>>>

>>
>>
>> If you hadn't used the wrong grease in the first place, you wouldn't
>> be in this pickle. Those boots last the life of the car, treated
>> right.
>>
>> Use "Sil-Glyde" only. Available at your local auto parts store.
>>

> i've had really bad experience with that stuff. i've found permatex
> to be much better.
>



Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have all
eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show signs of
cracking, much less splitting.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 06:14 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:dLOdnSmsHriKPd_bnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> Tegger wrote:
>> highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in news:1178636660.824881.184980
>> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Howdy.
>>>
>>> Did anyone ever have to replace the sliding pin boots on a 2003
>>> accord 4 cyl? I need to replace all 8 of them but the dealer wants
>>> $50 for just one side. This is a ripoff. Does anyone know where one
>>> can purchase these without having to purchase the entire caliper
>>> overhaul kit?
>>>

>>
>>
>> If you hadn't used the wrong grease in the first place, you wouldn't
>> be in this pickle. Those boots last the life of the car, treated
>> right.
>>
>> Use "Sil-Glyde" only. Available at your local auto parts store.
>>

> i've had really bad experience with that stuff. i've found permatex
> to be much better.
>



Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have all
eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show signs of
cracking, much less splitting.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 06:18 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:


>
> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.




I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly does not
get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades. That is a
characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.

If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen that in
20 years of (twice-yearly) use.


>
> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>



I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with Sil-Glyde.

Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine. Since
the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 06:18 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:


>
> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.




I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly does not
get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades. That is a
characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.

If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen that in
20 years of (twice-yearly) use.


>
> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>



I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with Sil-Glyde.

Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine. Since
the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam 05-10-2007 08:59 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:dLOdnSmsHriKPd_bnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in news:1178636660.824881.184980
>>> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Howdy.
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone ever have to replace the sliding pin boots on a 2003
>>>> accord 4 cyl? I need to replace all 8 of them but the dealer wants
>>>> $50 for just one side. This is a ripoff. Does anyone know where one
>>>> can purchase these without having to purchase the entire caliper
>>>> overhaul kit?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you hadn't used the wrong grease in the first place, you wouldn't
>>> be in this pickle. Those boots last the life of the car, treated
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Use "Sil-Glyde" only. Available at your local auto parts store.
>>>

>> i've had really bad experience with that stuff. i've found permatex
>> to be much better.
>>

>
>
> Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have all
> eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show signs of
> cracking, much less splitting.
>

they don't crack or split, but they get badly gummed up in my
experience. i don't think sil-glyde is a pure silicone. and of course,
they don't say on the label.

in addition to permatex which is a good over-the-counter assembly lube,
there's some stuff by bendix that's supposed to be good and dow
corning's molykote m77 is i understand oem lube for the sliders.

jim beam 05-10-2007 08:59 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:dLOdnSmsHriKPd_bnZ2dnUVZ_r-onZ2d@speakeasy.net:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> highkm <ic3po@mac.com> wrote in news:1178636660.824881.184980
>>> @q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> Howdy.
>>>>
>>>> Did anyone ever have to replace the sliding pin boots on a 2003
>>>> accord 4 cyl? I need to replace all 8 of them but the dealer wants
>>>> $50 for just one side. This is a ripoff. Does anyone know where one
>>>> can purchase these without having to purchase the entire caliper
>>>> overhaul kit?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you hadn't used the wrong grease in the first place, you wouldn't
>>> be in this pickle. Those boots last the life of the car, treated
>>> right.
>>>
>>> Use "Sil-Glyde" only. Available at your local auto parts store.
>>>

>> i've had really bad experience with that stuff. i've found permatex
>> to be much better.
>>

>
>
> Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have all
> eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show signs of
> cracking, much less splitting.
>

they don't crack or split, but they get badly gummed up in my
experience. i don't think sil-glyde is a pure silicone. and of course,
they don't say on the label.

in addition to permatex which is a good over-the-counter assembly lube,
there's some stuff by bendix that's supposed to be good and dow
corning's molykote m77 is i understand oem lube for the sliders.

jim beam 05-10-2007 09:03 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>
>> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
>> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.

>
>
>
> I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly does not
> get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades. That is a
> characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.
>
> If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen that in
> 20 years of (twice-yearly) use.
>
>
>> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>>

>
>
> I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with Sil-Glyde.
>
> Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine. Since
> the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.
>

it's possible i had a "dud" tube of the stuff, but the time i used it, i
had occasion to strip my stuff down again a few months later, and all
was gummed to blazes. never had that with a true silicone before. i'd
used it on brake rubber and suspension sway bar bushings. the bushings
were completely stuck solid - the bushings had to be cut off and renewed.

jim beam 05-10-2007 09:03 AM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
Tegger wrote:
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>
>> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
>> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.

>
>
>
> I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly does not
> get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades. That is a
> characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.
>
> If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen that in
> 20 years of (twice-yearly) use.
>
>
>> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>>

>
>
> I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with Sil-Glyde.
>
> Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine. Since
> the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.
>

it's possible i had a "dud" tube of the stuff, but the time i used it, i
had occasion to strip my stuff down again a few months later, and all
was gummed to blazes. never had that with a true silicone before. i'd
used it on brake rubber and suspension sway bar bushings. the bushings
were completely stuck solid - the bushings had to be cut off and renewed.

Tegger 05-10-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:qJCdnWQtmZuFit7bnZ2dnUVZ_ubinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Tegger wrote:


>>
>> Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have
>> all eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show
>> signs of cracking, much less splitting.
>>

> they don't crack or split, but they get badly gummed up in my
> experience. i don't think sil-glyde is a pure silicone. and of
> course, they don't say on the label.
>
> in addition to permatex which is a good over-the-counter assembly
> lube, there's some stuff by bendix that's supposed to be good and dow
> corning's molykote m77 is i understand oem lube for the sliders.
>




Sil-Glyde does NOT "gum up" ANY rubber boots on ANY Honda EVER. I don't
know what you were using, but it sure wasn't Sil-Glyde.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:qJCdnWQtmZuFit7bnZ2dnUVZ_ubinZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Tegger wrote:


>>
>> Been using Sil-Glyde for twenty years. Never a problem. I still have
>> all eitght original pin boots on my brakes and they do not even show
>> signs of cracking, much less splitting.
>>

> they don't crack or split, but they get badly gummed up in my
> experience. i don't think sil-glyde is a pure silicone. and of
> course, they don't say on the label.
>
> in addition to permatex which is a good over-the-counter assembly
> lube, there's some stuff by bendix that's supposed to be good and dow
> corning's molykote m77 is i understand oem lube for the sliders.
>




Sil-Glyde does NOT "gum up" ANY rubber boots on ANY Honda EVER. I don't
know what you were using, but it sure wasn't Sil-Glyde.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:VrWdnYLDht-Lhd7bnZ2dnUVZ_qemnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>
>>> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
>>> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.

>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly
>> does not get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades.
>> That is a characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.
>>
>> If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen
>> that in 20 years of (twice-yearly) use.
>>
>>
>>> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>>>

>>
>>
>> I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with
>> Sil-Glyde.
>>
>> Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine.
>> Since the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.
>>

> it's possible i had a "dud" tube of the stuff, but the time i used it,
> i had occasion to strip my stuff down again a few months later, and
> all was gummed to blazes. never had that with a true silicone before.
> i'd used it on brake rubber and suspension sway bar bushings. the
> bushings were completely stuck solid - the bushings had to be cut off
> and renewed.
>



Whatever that tube had in it, it certainly wasn't the stuff that's been
sold to me as "Sil-Glyde" for two decades.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-10-2007 12:03 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:VrWdnYLDht-Lhd7bnZ2dnUVZ_qemnZ2d@speakeasy.net:

> Tegger wrote:
>> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
>> news:g6udnRlh6II_AN_bnZ2dnUVZ_uWlnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>
>>> i've used sil-glyde - it's abysmal stuff. it gets absorbed by the
>>> rubber and turns into an adhesive goo in no time.

>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what you're referring to here, but it most certainly
>> does not get absorbed by the rubber to the point the rubber degrades.
>> That is a characteristic of petroleum-based anti-seizes.
>>
>> If Sil-Glyde caused rubber degradation, I think I would have seen
>> that in 20 years of (twice-yearly) use.
>>
>>
>>> "permatex ultra disk brake caliper lube" is the way to go.
>>>

>>
>>
>> I'm sure that's fine too, but there's not a thing wrong with
>> Sil-Glyde.
>>
>> Sil-Glyde is especially good for wet, salty environments like mine.
>> Since the stuff is so thick, it is less prone to washing away.
>>

> it's possible i had a "dud" tube of the stuff, but the time i used it,
> i had occasion to strip my stuff down again a few months later, and
> all was gummed to blazes. never had that with a true silicone before.
> i'd used it on brake rubber and suspension sway bar bushings. the
> bushings were completely stuck solid - the bushings had to be cut off
> and renewed.
>



Whatever that tube had in it, it certainly wasn't the stuff that's been
sold to me as "Sil-Glyde" for two decades.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Michael Pardee 05-10-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns992C7AA1F5CB2tegger@207.14.116.130...
>
>
> Whatever that tube had in it, it certainly wasn't the stuff that's been
> sold to me as "Sil-Glyde" for two decades.
>


There is a black market for almost everything - maybe it was bogus and got
into the store's supply stream.

Mike




Michael Pardee 05-10-2007 02:58 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns992C7AA1F5CB2tegger@207.14.116.130...
>
>
> Whatever that tube had in it, it certainly wasn't the stuff that's been
> sold to me as "Sil-Glyde" for two decades.
>


There is a black market for almost everything - maybe it was bogus and got
into the store's supply stream.

Mike




Tegger 05-10-2007 03:29 PM

Re: Caliper sliding pin boots
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in
news:Po-dnQ3hru3c9t7bnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@sedona.net:

> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns992C7AA1F5CB2tegger@207.14.116.130...
>>
>>
>> Whatever that tube had in it, it certainly wasn't the stuff that's
>> been sold to me as "Sil-Glyde" for two decades.
>>

>
> There is a black market for almost everything - maybe it was bogus and
> got into the store's supply stream.
>




Maybe it had melamine in it.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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