Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
08-22-2004, 12:44 PM
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Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend told
me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
Is it even necessary?
Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
advice appreciated
Thanks,
Al
me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
Is it even necessary?
Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
advice appreciated
Thanks,
Al
08-22-2004, 02:37 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:44:51 -0700, "Al C."
<no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend told
>me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
>was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
>and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
>Is it even necessary?
>
>Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
>or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
>advice appreciated
I'm pretty sure that wax makes the finish look terrific and that it
makes water bead up. The wax may protect bare metal that might be
exposed due to stone chips. And importantly, waxing improves bonding
between owner and car.
But I have great doubt that car wax protects modern finishes, that it
restores "natural oils", that it defends against oxidation, and that
it protects from the sun.
Car wax contains solvents. You can smell them! Solvents are aggressive
and can be harmful to the finish, especially new finishes. If you wax
a car that does not have a clearcoat, the compounds in the wax will
remove part of the paint -- which you can plainly see because the pad
will take on the color of the paint. Looks great, but costs you a thin
layer of your paint!
So I would not wax a new car for a few months. After that, wax it if
you want... it's a good way to ensure you get the surface real clean
of any harmful bird poo or tree sap. Besides that, don't believe
everything you hear about the benefits.
H.
<no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend told
>me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
>was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
>and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
>Is it even necessary?
>
>Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
>or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
>advice appreciated
I'm pretty sure that wax makes the finish look terrific and that it
makes water bead up. The wax may protect bare metal that might be
exposed due to stone chips. And importantly, waxing improves bonding
between owner and car.
But I have great doubt that car wax protects modern finishes, that it
restores "natural oils", that it defends against oxidation, and that
it protects from the sun.
Car wax contains solvents. You can smell them! Solvents are aggressive
and can be harmful to the finish, especially new finishes. If you wax
a car that does not have a clearcoat, the compounds in the wax will
remove part of the paint -- which you can plainly see because the pad
will take on the color of the paint. Looks great, but costs you a thin
layer of your paint!
So I would not wax a new car for a few months. After that, wax it if
you want... it's a good way to ensure you get the surface real clean
of any harmful bird poo or tree sap. Besides that, don't believe
everything you hear about the benefits.
H.
08-22-2004, 02:37 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:44:51 -0700, "Al C."
<no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend told
>me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
>was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
>and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
>Is it even necessary?
>
>Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
>or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
>advice appreciated
I'm pretty sure that wax makes the finish look terrific and that it
makes water bead up. The wax may protect bare metal that might be
exposed due to stone chips. And importantly, waxing improves bonding
between owner and car.
But I have great doubt that car wax protects modern finishes, that it
restores "natural oils", that it defends against oxidation, and that
it protects from the sun.
Car wax contains solvents. You can smell them! Solvents are aggressive
and can be harmful to the finish, especially new finishes. If you wax
a car that does not have a clearcoat, the compounds in the wax will
remove part of the paint -- which you can plainly see because the pad
will take on the color of the paint. Looks great, but costs you a thin
layer of your paint!
So I would not wax a new car for a few months. After that, wax it if
you want... it's a good way to ensure you get the surface real clean
of any harmful bird poo or tree sap. Besides that, don't believe
everything you hear about the benefits.
H.
<no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend told
>me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days' this
>was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's paints
>and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run off.
>Is it even necessary?
>
>Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends McQuire
>or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
>advice appreciated
I'm pretty sure that wax makes the finish look terrific and that it
makes water bead up. The wax may protect bare metal that might be
exposed due to stone chips. And importantly, waxing improves bonding
between owner and car.
But I have great doubt that car wax protects modern finishes, that it
restores "natural oils", that it defends against oxidation, and that
it protects from the sun.
Car wax contains solvents. You can smell them! Solvents are aggressive
and can be harmful to the finish, especially new finishes. If you wax
a car that does not have a clearcoat, the compounds in the wax will
remove part of the paint -- which you can plainly see because the pad
will take on the color of the paint. Looks great, but costs you a thin
layer of your paint!
So I would not wax a new car for a few months. After that, wax it if
you want... it's a good way to ensure you get the surface real clean
of any harmful bird poo or tree sap. Besides that, don't believe
everything you hear about the benefits.
H.
08-23-2004, 12:33 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
"Harry ***" <***@SomeDomain.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:44:51 -0700, "Al C."
> <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>
I wax all my new hondas when I get them home. Use zymoil wax it is water
based.
08-23-2004, 12:33 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
"Harry ***" <***@SomeDomain.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:44:51 -0700, "Al C."
> <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote:
>
I wax all my new hondas when I get them home. Use zymoil wax it is water
based.
08-23-2004, 07:27 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
I took my Accord to Shine Factory and had their top of the line treatment
applied to the vehicle. It offers a warranty against discolouration of the
paint and more (don't remember exactly what at this moment). It's been
great, bird droppings and sap, just hose right off the vehicle, not labour
intensive at all.
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08-23-2004, 07:27 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
I took my Accord to Shine Factory and had their top of the line treatment
applied to the vehicle. It offers a warranty against discolouration of the
paint and more (don't remember exactly what at this moment). It's been
great, bird droppings and sap, just hose right off the vehicle, not labour
intensive at all.
--
Brian
http://www.cakesbydarlene.ca
http://www.accesswave.ca/~orion
08-23-2004, 06:10 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
08-23-2004, 06:10 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
08-23-2004, 09:22 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:10:31 GMT, "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
Yes, Honda knows how much you love your car, and it sure improves the
appearance.
Wax manufacturers recommend you wax your car 3 to 4 times a year. Some
folks even say the more the better.
That's fine, but that does not prove anything about protecting the
finish.
H.
>Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
Yes, Honda knows how much you love your car, and it sure improves the
appearance.
Wax manufacturers recommend you wax your car 3 to 4 times a year. Some
folks even say the more the better.
That's fine, but that does not prove anything about protecting the
finish.
H.
08-23-2004, 09:22 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:10:31 GMT, "Hank" <jdoe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
Yes, Honda knows how much you love your car, and it sure improves the
appearance.
Wax manufacturers recommend you wax your car 3 to 4 times a year. Some
folks even say the more the better.
That's fine, but that does not prove anything about protecting the
finish.
H.
>Read the manual. Honda recommends that you wax your new car twice a year.
Yes, Honda knows how much you love your car, and it sure improves the
appearance.
Wax manufacturers recommend you wax your car 3 to 4 times a year. Some
folks even say the more the better.
That's fine, but that does not prove anything about protecting the
finish.
H.
08-24-2004, 05:19 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
Nu Finish. Optical waxes are good for auto shows and that's about
all. The trick with Nu Finish: don't rub, leave the polish alone until
COMPLETELY dry, about 1/2 hour (most people don't let Nu Finish dry
sufficiently and try to rub it off prematurely). The fewer times you "rub"
your car's finish .. . the fewer the scratches and rub marks. Read C.U.'s
Consumer Reports on auto wax & polishes. A fool and his/her money are soon
parted.
Al C. <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
all. The trick with Nu Finish: don't rub, leave the polish alone until
COMPLETELY dry, about 1/2 hour (most people don't let Nu Finish dry
sufficiently and try to rub it off prematurely). The fewer times you "rub"
your car's finish .. . the fewer the scratches and rub marks. Read C.U.'s
Consumer Reports on auto wax & polishes. A fool and his/her money are soon
parted.
Al C. <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
08-24-2004, 05:19 AM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
Nu Finish. Optical waxes are good for auto shows and that's about
all. The trick with Nu Finish: don't rub, leave the polish alone until
COMPLETELY dry, about 1/2 hour (most people don't let Nu Finish dry
sufficiently and try to rub it off prematurely). The fewer times you "rub"
your car's finish .. . the fewer the scratches and rub marks. Read C.U.'s
Consumer Reports on auto wax & polishes. A fool and his/her money are soon
parted.
Al C. <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
all. The trick with Nu Finish: don't rub, leave the polish alone until
COMPLETELY dry, about 1/2 hour (most people don't let Nu Finish dry
sufficiently and try to rub it off prematurely). The fewer times you "rub"
your car's finish .. . the fewer the scratches and rub marks. Read C.U.'s
Consumer Reports on auto wax & polishes. A fool and his/her money are soon
parted.
Al C. <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
09-06-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
i had my 2004 accord ex done by the bestshop in the wash. d.c. area and the
finish was twice as brilliant and the water beads like their was no
tomorrow.well woth the $139 for a minor detail when they come to the home or
office.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
finish was twice as brilliant and the water beads like their was no
tomorrow.well woth the $139 for a minor detail when they come to the home or
office.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
09-06-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Can you wax a 'new' Civic?
i had my 2004 accord ex done by the bestshop in the wash. d.c. area and the
finish was twice as brilliant and the water beads like their was no
tomorrow.well woth the $139 for a minor detail when they come to the home or
office.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
finish was twice as brilliant and the water beads like their was no
tomorrow.well woth the $139 for a minor detail when they come to the home or
office.
"Al C." <no.spam.acanton@adams-blake.no.spam.com> wrote in message
news:10ihjc4sqopif0@news20.forteinc.com...
> Bought 04 Civic EX in March. First new car in 15 years. Silver. Friend
told
> me not to wax it for three or four months. I remember in the 'old days'
this
> was 'common knowledge' (or an urban myth!) but is it true with today's
paints
> and finishes? Car still looks good, but water does not 'bead up' and run
off.
> Is it even necessary?
>
> Any specific product you've had good results with. Friend recommends
McQuire
> or something like that... and only on cold metal (before car is run.). Any
> advice appreciated
>
> Thanks,
> Al
>
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