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Rorus33 12-12-2006 03:25 PM

Car studders durring acceleration...
 
I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?

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Stewart DIBBS 12-12-2006 07:27 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 

"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


Plug leads?

SD



Stewart DIBBS 12-12-2006 07:27 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 

"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


Plug leads?

SD



Stewart DIBBS 12-12-2006 07:27 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 

"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


Plug leads?

SD



Stewart DIBBS 12-12-2006 07:27 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 

"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


Plug leads?

SD



Michael Pardee 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?
>
>

It really sounds like a failing spark plug, but it could be plug wires or
even the distributor cap or rotor. If the plugs are old or are Champion or
Bosch (even if new), replacement is a good idea. Ditto with the ignition
tune-up parts. Lotsa experienced people here are adamant about using genuine
Honda ignition parts (except plugs... NGK are okay). I came around to their
way of thinking through sad experience.

Anyway, fixing up the ignition is a great place to start. I suspect it is
even the answer you are looking for.

Mike



Michael Pardee 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?
>
>

It really sounds like a failing spark plug, but it could be plug wires or
even the distributor cap or rotor. If the plugs are old or are Champion or
Bosch (even if new), replacement is a good idea. Ditto with the ignition
tune-up parts. Lotsa experienced people here are adamant about using genuine
Honda ignition parts (except plugs... NGK are okay). I came around to their
way of thinking through sad experience.

Anyway, fixing up the ignition is a great place to start. I suspect it is
even the answer you are looking for.

Mike



Michael Pardee 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?
>
>

It really sounds like a failing spark plug, but it could be plug wires or
even the distributor cap or rotor. If the plugs are old or are Champion or
Bosch (even if new), replacement is a good idea. Ditto with the ignition
tune-up parts. Lotsa experienced people here are adamant about using genuine
Honda ignition parts (except plugs... NGK are okay). I came around to their
way of thinking through sad experience.

Anyway, fixing up the ignition is a great place to start. I suspect it is
even the answer you are looking for.

Mike



Michael Pardee 12-12-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
"Rorus33" <none@000.com> wrote in message
news:950121_e9f68180517e32f97242233855b5f55a@autob oardz.com...
>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
> about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
> acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
> rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
> there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
> trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
> while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
> off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and slips
> until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
> Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?
>
>

It really sounds like a failing spark plug, but it could be plug wires or
even the distributor cap or rotor. If the plugs are old or are Champion or
Bosch (even if new), replacement is a good idea. Ditto with the ignition
tune-up parts. Lotsa experienced people here are adamant about using genuine
Honda ignition parts (except plugs... NGK are okay). I came around to their
way of thinking through sad experience.

Anyway, fixing up the ignition is a great place to start. I suspect it is
even the answer you are looking for.

Mike



Rorus33 12-13-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
I don’t know why that thought never crossed my mind. Thanks guys,
I’ll give it a try.

"Rorus33" wrote:
> I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long
> road trip about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring
> medium to heavy acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd
> gear at around 3500-4000 rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate
> with about 1/4 to half throtle there is no problem. Anyway, I
> took it to my mechanic and had the trany flushed and refilled.
> The problem seemed to be solved. Now, while on my way to
> work thismorning it started up again. I just got off the
> on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and
> slips until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through
> the gears. Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter
> perhaps?


Rorus33 12-13-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
I don’t know why that thought never crossed my mind. Thanks guys,
I’ll give it a try.

"Rorus33" wrote:
> I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long
> road trip about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring
> medium to heavy acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd
> gear at around 3500-4000 rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate
> with about 1/4 to half throtle there is no problem. Anyway, I
> took it to my mechanic and had the trany flushed and refilled.
> The problem seemed to be solved. Now, while on my way to
> work thismorning it started up again. I just got off the
> on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and
> slips until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through
> the gears. Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter
> perhaps?


Rorus33 12-13-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
I don’t know why that thought never crossed my mind. Thanks guys,
I’ll give it a try.

"Rorus33" wrote:
> I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long
> road trip about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring
> medium to heavy acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd
> gear at around 3500-4000 rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate
> with about 1/4 to half throtle there is no problem. Anyway, I
> took it to my mechanic and had the trany flushed and refilled.
> The problem seemed to be solved. Now, while on my way to
> work thismorning it started up again. I just got off the
> on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and
> slips until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through
> the gears. Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter
> perhaps?


Rorus33 12-13-2006 05:25 PM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
I don’t know why that thought never crossed my mind. Thanks guys,
I’ll give it a try.

"Rorus33" wrote:
> I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long
> road trip about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring
> medium to heavy acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd
> gear at around 3500-4000 rpm's. If I baby it and accelerate
> with about 1/4 to half throtle there is no problem. Anyway, I
> took it to my mechanic and had the trany flushed and refilled.
> The problem seemed to be solved. Now, while on my way to
> work thismorning it started up again. I just got off the
> on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
> all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm's and studders, jolts and
> slips until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through
> the gears. Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter
> perhaps?


JXStern 12-14-2006 01:31 AM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:25:49 -0000, Rorus33 <none@000.com> wrote:

>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
>about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
>acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
>rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
>there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
>trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
>while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
>off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
>all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
>until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
>Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


If the tranny flush worked once, it was probably the tranny.

My 1999 CL was the same generation as your Accord, and the 4-speed
auto really sucked as you described from day one. At 30k I had it
flushed on scheduled maint, and for the first time I could accelerate
out of cruise without the tranny slipping then downshifting two gears
instead of one racing the engine, and other crap.

I suspect *most* Honda products of that period have this problem to
one extent or another, and drivers baby their cars and don't notice,
or figure it's the engine computer or other intended behavior, when
it's really seriously sucky transmission performance.

The five speeds seem a little more solid now, but after they had to
fix or replace a couple hundred thousand of them on six-cylinder
engines, you be the judge.

The bad trannies are really Honda's dark secret.

J.


JXStern 12-14-2006 01:31 AM

Re: Car studders durring acceleration...
 
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:25:49 -0000, Rorus33 <none@000.com> wrote:

>I own a 98 Accord EX 4cyl with 120k miles... I took a long road trip
>about 6,000 miles ago and noticed that durring medium to heavy
>acceleration my car studdered in 2nd and 3rd gear at around 3500-4000
>rpm’s. If I baby it and accelerate with about 1/4 to half throtle
>there is no problem. Anyway, I took it to my mechanic and had the
>trany flushed and refilled. The problem seemed to be solved. Now,
>while on my way to work thismorning it started up again. I just got
>off the on-ramp to the highway, started accelerating into traffic and
>all of a sudden the car hits 3700rpm’s and studders, jolts and slips
>until i take my foot off the throtle and baby it through the gears.
>Does anyone have any suggestions? Fuel filter perhaps?


If the tranny flush worked once, it was probably the tranny.

My 1999 CL was the same generation as your Accord, and the 4-speed
auto really sucked as you described from day one. At 30k I had it
flushed on scheduled maint, and for the first time I could accelerate
out of cruise without the tranny slipping then downshifting two gears
instead of one racing the engine, and other crap.

I suspect *most* Honda products of that period have this problem to
one extent or another, and drivers baby their cars and don't notice,
or figure it's the engine computer or other intended behavior, when
it's really seriously sucky transmission performance.

The five speeds seem a little more solid now, but after they had to
fix or replace a couple hundred thousand of them on six-cylinder
engines, you be the judge.

The bad trannies are really Honda's dark secret.

J.



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