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Eric 12-01-2003 09:14 PM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> The fuel is visible... it's a bit above center.


OK, I'm thinking that you either have a really bad vacuum leak or your idle
circuit may be plugged. Have you tried running a propane enrichment test?
Another test you can do is to check for leaks at the carb base by spraying
with a little carb cleaner.

Eric

Eric 12-01-2003 09:14 PM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> The fuel is visible... it's a bit above center.


OK, I'm thinking that you either have a really bad vacuum leak or your idle
circuit may be plugged. Have you tried running a propane enrichment test?
Another test you can do is to check for leaks at the carb base by spraying
with a little carb cleaner.

Eric

'Curly Q. Links' 12-02-2003 12:47 AM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> I bought a carb kit from AutoZone and put all that stuff (gaskets, o-rings,
> etc) on my '87 Accord LX. I found a damaged choke opener diaphragm and
> installed a new one from Majestic Honda.
>
> Since the car would start at very high rpms (> 3000K) and stay there I
> suspected vacuum leaks. I replaced most vacuum hoses I could lay my hands
> on (making sure I connected everything back the right way; besides I have
> the vacuum diagram). Also replaced the gasket between the intake manifold
> and EFE heater (also added some gasket sealant) as well as the o-ring. And
> set all the speed adjustment screws to the lowest setting.
>
> Now the car starts but dies if I take the foot off the accelerator. As a
> matter of fact, I can't just keep the accelerator depressed, I need to
> continuously pump gas into the carburetor by pressing the accelerator as
> soon as I notice that the engine is about to die. I checked the accelerator
> pump and you can actually see a stream of gas go into the carburetor when
> you press the accelerator. However I'm suspicious that a constant flow of
> gas is not making it into the carburetor.
>
> What adjustments do I need to make? (I'm doing this using Helm, Chilton and
> Haynes manuals. I'm not a mechanic but am trying to learn by doing things
> myself on this car.)


--------------------------

MC,

From what I remember of my introduction to automobile tuning, all the
manuals agreed on one thing: Carb adjustment is the LAST thing you
tackle, after making sure that compression is good, valve and ignition
timing is correct, and exhaust is not obstructed (amoung other things)

Your symptoms make me wonder if your timing (or vacuum advance) is WAY
out of wack... Was the engine running fairly good before you tore the
carb apart? Any chance somebody may have altered the ignition timing to
compensate for a wacky carb??

Second (free) guess is mixed-up vacuum lines.

'Curly'
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-02-2003 12:47 AM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> I bought a carb kit from AutoZone and put all that stuff (gaskets, o-rings,
> etc) on my '87 Accord LX. I found a damaged choke opener diaphragm and
> installed a new one from Majestic Honda.
>
> Since the car would start at very high rpms (> 3000K) and stay there I
> suspected vacuum leaks. I replaced most vacuum hoses I could lay my hands
> on (making sure I connected everything back the right way; besides I have
> the vacuum diagram). Also replaced the gasket between the intake manifold
> and EFE heater (also added some gasket sealant) as well as the o-ring. And
> set all the speed adjustment screws to the lowest setting.
>
> Now the car starts but dies if I take the foot off the accelerator. As a
> matter of fact, I can't just keep the accelerator depressed, I need to
> continuously pump gas into the carburetor by pressing the accelerator as
> soon as I notice that the engine is about to die. I checked the accelerator
> pump and you can actually see a stream of gas go into the carburetor when
> you press the accelerator. However I'm suspicious that a constant flow of
> gas is not making it into the carburetor.
>
> What adjustments do I need to make? (I'm doing this using Helm, Chilton and
> Haynes manuals. I'm not a mechanic but am trying to learn by doing things
> myself on this car.)


--------------------------

MC,

From what I remember of my introduction to automobile tuning, all the
manuals agreed on one thing: Carb adjustment is the LAST thing you
tackle, after making sure that compression is good, valve and ignition
timing is correct, and exhaust is not obstructed (amoung other things)

Your symptoms make me wonder if your timing (or vacuum advance) is WAY
out of wack... Was the engine running fairly good before you tore the
carb apart? Any chance somebody may have altered the ignition timing to
compensate for a wacky carb??

Second (free) guess is mixed-up vacuum lines.

'Curly'
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-02-2003 12:47 AM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> I bought a carb kit from AutoZone and put all that stuff (gaskets, o-rings,
> etc) on my '87 Accord LX. I found a damaged choke opener diaphragm and
> installed a new one from Majestic Honda.
>
> Since the car would start at very high rpms (> 3000K) and stay there I
> suspected vacuum leaks. I replaced most vacuum hoses I could lay my hands
> on (making sure I connected everything back the right way; besides I have
> the vacuum diagram). Also replaced the gasket between the intake manifold
> and EFE heater (also added some gasket sealant) as well as the o-ring. And
> set all the speed adjustment screws to the lowest setting.
>
> Now the car starts but dies if I take the foot off the accelerator. As a
> matter of fact, I can't just keep the accelerator depressed, I need to
> continuously pump gas into the carburetor by pressing the accelerator as
> soon as I notice that the engine is about to die. I checked the accelerator
> pump and you can actually see a stream of gas go into the carburetor when
> you press the accelerator. However I'm suspicious that a constant flow of
> gas is not making it into the carburetor.
>
> What adjustments do I need to make? (I'm doing this using Helm, Chilton and
> Haynes manuals. I'm not a mechanic but am trying to learn by doing things
> myself on this car.)


--------------------------

MC,

From what I remember of my introduction to automobile tuning, all the
manuals agreed on one thing: Carb adjustment is the LAST thing you
tackle, after making sure that compression is good, valve and ignition
timing is correct, and exhaust is not obstructed (amoung other things)

Your symptoms make me wonder if your timing (or vacuum advance) is WAY
out of wack... Was the engine running fairly good before you tore the
carb apart? Any chance somebody may have altered the ignition timing to
compensate for a wacky carb??

Second (free) guess is mixed-up vacuum lines.

'Curly'
--------------------------

'Curly Q. Links' 12-02-2003 12:47 AM

Re: Carb Adjustment
 
MC wrote:
>
> I bought a carb kit from AutoZone and put all that stuff (gaskets, o-rings,
> etc) on my '87 Accord LX. I found a damaged choke opener diaphragm and
> installed a new one from Majestic Honda.
>
> Since the car would start at very high rpms (> 3000K) and stay there I
> suspected vacuum leaks. I replaced most vacuum hoses I could lay my hands
> on (making sure I connected everything back the right way; besides I have
> the vacuum diagram). Also replaced the gasket between the intake manifold
> and EFE heater (also added some gasket sealant) as well as the o-ring. And
> set all the speed adjustment screws to the lowest setting.
>
> Now the car starts but dies if I take the foot off the accelerator. As a
> matter of fact, I can't just keep the accelerator depressed, I need to
> continuously pump gas into the carburetor by pressing the accelerator as
> soon as I notice that the engine is about to die. I checked the accelerator
> pump and you can actually see a stream of gas go into the carburetor when
> you press the accelerator. However I'm suspicious that a constant flow of
> gas is not making it into the carburetor.
>
> What adjustments do I need to make? (I'm doing this using Helm, Chilton and
> Haynes manuals. I'm not a mechanic but am trying to learn by doing things
> myself on this car.)


--------------------------

MC,

From what I remember of my introduction to automobile tuning, all the
manuals agreed on one thing: Carb adjustment is the LAST thing you
tackle, after making sure that compression is good, valve and ignition
timing is correct, and exhaust is not obstructed (amoung other things)

Your symptoms make me wonder if your timing (or vacuum advance) is WAY
out of wack... Was the engine running fairly good before you tore the
carb apart? Any chance somebody may have altered the ignition timing to
compensate for a wacky carb??

Second (free) guess is mixed-up vacuum lines.

'Curly'
--------------------------


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