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vatana@sbcglobal.net 03-29-2006 02:07 PM

changing manual to automatic
 
i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
possible to change it to automatic?


Elliot Richmond 03-29-2006 02:39 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
On 29 Mar 2006 11:07:02 -0800, vatana@sbcglobal.net wrote:

>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
>possible to change it to automatic?


We have experts on this list that may answer your question. If they
don't, my gues would be no. Not without an enormous amount of effort.
You might have to replace the engine and transmission as well as the
radiator, center console, throttle linkages, etc. It would cost a lot
more than the car is worth and a lot more than just going out and
buying another Honda of similar vintage.

By the way, there may be posters on this list who want to know why you
can't drive a manual. I assert that is none of our business.



Elliot Richmond
Freelance Science Writer and Editor

tww 03-29-2006 04:38 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 

"Elliot Richmond" <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote in message
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> On 29 Mar 2006 11:07:02 -0800, vatana@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> >i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> >possible to change it to automatic?

>
> We have experts on this list that may answer your question. If they
> don't, my gues would be no. Not without an enormous amount of effort.
> You might have to replace the engine and transmission as well as the
> radiator, center console, throttle linkages, etc. It would cost a lot
> more than the car is worth and a lot more than just going out and
> buying another Honda of similar vintage.
>
> By the way, there may be posters on this list who want to know why you
> can't drive a manual. I assert that is none of our business.
>
>
>
> Elliot Richmond
> Freelance Science Writer and Editor


Actually, the path of least resistance would be to learn how. But, failing
that the better option would be to try and trade the 5spd for a Prelude with
an automatic.



Jason 03-29-2006 05:47 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
In article <T7DWf.4211$C85.1551@dukeread10>, "tww" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:

> "Elliot Richmond" <xmrichmond@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote in message
> news:tbol22htb6uc6c41ch6ql6peqmlvps8mgv@4ax.com...
> > On 29 Mar 2006 11:07:02 -0800, vatana@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> >
> > >i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> > >possible to change it to automatic?

> >
> > We have experts on this list that may answer your question. If they
> > don't, my gues would be no. Not without an enormous amount of effort.
> > You might have to replace the engine and transmission as well as the
> > radiator, center console, throttle linkages, etc. It would cost a lot
> > more than the car is worth and a lot more than just going out and
> > buying another Honda of similar vintage.
> >
> > By the way, there may be posters on this list who want to know why you
> > can't drive a manual. I assert that is none of our business.
> >
> >
> >
> > Elliot Richmond
> > Freelance Science Writer and Editor

>
> Actually, the path of least resistance would be to learn how. But, failing
> that the better option would be to try and trade the 5spd for a Prelude with
> an automatic.


Yes, I agree with you. I subscribe to a car magazine and someone asked the
editor (a mechanic) this same question. The answer was that it would cost
over $2000. In other words, trading the 98 Prelude in on a car that has an
automatic tranmission would be the best option. I know how to drive a car
that has a manual transmission but prefer a car that has an auto.
transmission. Lots of people are like me--I saw some statistics indicating
that the vast majority of people prefer an auto. transmission.
Jason

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Elle 03-29-2006 05:49 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
"tww" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:
>> But, failing
>> that the better option would be to try and trade the 5spd
>> for a Prelude with
>> an automatic.

>
> Yes, I agree with you. I subscribe to a car magazine and
> someone asked the
> editor (a mechanic) this same question. The answer was
> that it would cost
> over $2000. In other words, trading the 98 Prelude in on a
> car that has an
> automatic tranmission would be the best option. I know how
> to drive a car
> that has a manual transmission but prefer a car that has
> an auto.
> transmission. Lots of people are like me--I saw some
> statistics indicating
> that the vast majority of people prefer an auto.
> transmission.


I think the Car Talk guys got asked this question a few
years ago. IIRC they similarly concluded it would be cheaper
to trade the car in.



Larry J. 03-29-2006 05:51 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
Waiving the right to remain silent, "Elle"
<honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> said:

> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
> "tww" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:
>>> But, failing
>>> that the better option would be to try and trade the 5spd
>>> for a Prelude with an automatic.

>>
>> Yes, I agree with you. I subscribe to a car magazine and
>> someone asked the
>> editor (a mechanic) this same question. The answer was
>> that it would cost
>> over $2000. In other words, trading the 98 Prelude in on a
>> car that has an
>> automatic tranmission would be the best option. I know how
>> to drive a car
>> that has a manual transmission but prefer a car that has
>> an auto.
>> transmission. Lots of people are like me--I saw some
>> statistics indicating
>> that the vast majority of people prefer an auto.
>> transmission.

>
> I think the Car Talk guys got asked this question a few
> years ago. IIRC they similarly concluded it would be cheaper
> to trade the car in.


This question is asked hundred of times everywhere, and always gets
answered the same.

Sort of like the old, "Can I turn my B&W TV into color..?"

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James 03-29-2006 06:27 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
Yes but this question would be more like going from color to Black and
White...

Going from manual to automatic you lose: gas mileage and performance, and
really gain nothing...

"Larry J." <usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote in message
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> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Elle"
> <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> said:
>
>> "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote
>> "tww" <twaugh5@cox.net> wrote:
>>>> But, failing
>>>> that the better option would be to try and trade the 5spd
>>>> for a Prelude with an automatic.
>>>
>>> Yes, I agree with you. I subscribe to a car magazine and
>>> someone asked the
>>> editor (a mechanic) this same question. The answer was
>>> that it would cost
>>> over $2000. In other words, trading the 98 Prelude in on a
>>> car that has an
>>> automatic tranmission would be the best option. I know how
>>> to drive a car
>>> that has a manual transmission but prefer a car that has
>>> an auto.
>>> transmission. Lots of people are like me--I saw some
>>> statistics indicating
>>> that the vast majority of people prefer an auto.
>>> transmission.

>>
>> I think the Car Talk guys got asked this question a few
>> years ago. IIRC they similarly concluded it would be cheaper
>> to trade the car in.

>
> This question is asked hundred of times everywhere, and always gets
> answered the same.
>
> Sort of like the old, "Can I turn my B&W TV into color..?"
>
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Michael Pardee 03-29-2006 08:56 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
<vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1143659222.775975.88580@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> possible to change it to automatic?
>

Possible, but not even remotely practical. I once drove a van that had been
crudely converted to an automatic - it could even be started in any gear!
Anyway, think of all the times we are asked whether it is a manual or
automatic when buying parts and you will understand the scope of the chore.

I agree with so many others - if you will not be able to drive a stick,
trading for an auto is the way to go.

Mike



Burt 03-30-2006 01:14 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"James" <Private@email.com> wrote

> Yes but this question would be more like going from color to Black and
> White...


Going from color to B&W TV is easy. Just turn down the saturation.
Going from B&W TV into color is a technical challenge. The tube and
the board has to be redesigned.



Burt 03-30-2006 01:14 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"James" <Private@email.com> wrote

> Yes but this question would be more like going from color to Black and
> White...


Going from color to B&W TV is easy. Just turn down the saturation.
Going from B&W TV into color is a technical challenge. The tube and
the board has to be redesigned.



Burt 03-30-2006 01:14 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
<vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote

> i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> possible to change it to automatic?


We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.

You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.

There was an argument over the neutral safety switch. I was for
it. Overall, it turned out fine but the whole project was remotely
practical... My next project will have to be "how to convert to
electric and achieve 100-mpg." - don't laugh, it's already been done.


















Burt 03-30-2006 01:14 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
<vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote

> i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> possible to change it to automatic?


We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.

You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.

There was an argument over the neutral safety switch. I was for
it. Overall, it turned out fine but the whole project was remotely
practical... My next project will have to be "how to convert to
electric and achieve 100-mpg." - don't laugh, it's already been done.


















Michael Pardee 03-30-2006 07:43 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote in message
news:bHKWf.60704$H71.15618@newssvr13.news.prodigy. com...
> "James" <Private@email.com> wrote
>
> Going from color to B&W TV is easy. Just turn down the saturation.
> Going from B&W TV into color is a technical challenge. The tube and
> the board has to be redesigned.
>
>

Back in the late '60s Popular Electronics magazine had an article to make a
B&W TV color with a color wheel. Maybe that is the solution - the OP can
have somebody else drive the Prelude!

Mike <8^P



Michael Pardee 03-30-2006 07:43 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote in message
news:bHKWf.60704$H71.15618@newssvr13.news.prodigy. com...
> "James" <Private@email.com> wrote
>
> Going from color to B&W TV is easy. Just turn down the saturation.
> Going from B&W TV into color is a technical challenge. The tube and
> the board has to be redesigned.
>
>

Back in the late '60s Popular Electronics magazine had an article to make a
B&W TV color with a color wheel. Maybe that is the solution - the OP can
have somebody else drive the Prelude!

Mike <8^P



Elle 03-30-2006 10:02 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote
> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in
> parts


How much for labor?

> but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we
> love the car.




Elle 03-30-2006 10:02 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Burt" <burtsquareman@none.com> wrote
> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in
> parts


How much for labor?

> but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we
> love the car.




Jason 03-30-2006 12:42 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
In article <cHKWf.60707$H71.50055@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> , "Burt"
<burtsquareman@none.com> wrote:

> <vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
> > i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> > possible to change it to automatic?

>
> We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
> cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
> will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
> the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
> central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
> figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.
>
> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.
>
> There was an argument over the neutral safety switch. I was for
> it. Overall, it turned out fine but the whole project was remotely
> practical... My next project will have to be "how to convert to
> electric and achieve 100-mpg." - don't laugh, it's already been done.


It appears from your post that you done all of the work yourself--or with
the help of your friends. It was obvious that the OR (original poster)
would have had to pay a mechanic to do the (tranny transplant) work. The
mechanic probably would have charged the OR at least $1000.00 (for labor)
and would have to pay about $500 to $1000 for a tranny that was in perfect
condition.
Jason

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Jason 03-30-2006 12:42 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
In article <cHKWf.60707$H71.50055@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> , "Burt"
<burtsquareman@none.com> wrote:

> <vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
> > i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> > possible to change it to automatic?

>
> We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
> cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
> will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
> the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
> central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
> figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.
>
> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.
>
> There was an argument over the neutral safety switch. I was for
> it. Overall, it turned out fine but the whole project was remotely
> practical... My next project will have to be "how to convert to
> electric and achieve 100-mpg." - don't laugh, it's already been done.


It appears from your post that you done all of the work yourself--or with
the help of your friends. It was obvious that the OR (original poster)
would have had to pay a mechanic to do the (tranny transplant) work. The
mechanic probably would have charged the OR at least $1000.00 (for labor)
and would have to pay about $500 to $1000 for a tranny that was in perfect
condition.
Jason

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Burt 03-30-2006 05:56 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote

> It appears from your post that you done all of the work yourself--or with
> the help of your friends. It was obvious that the OR (original poster)
> would have had to pay a mechanic to do the (tranny transplant) work. The
> mechanic probably would have charged the OR at least $1000.00 (for labor)
> and would have to pay about $500 to $1000 for a tranny that was in perfect
> condition.
> Jason


You're correct . Labor would have totaled $1000 or more. Today's rate
is $55/hour. It took us 18 hours. Parts for the 98 prelude would have
exceeded $2000. The transmission computer would nearly cost as much
as the transmission itself.

Every stick we own were swapped into auto for the reason that the model
we need to do the job were mostly manufactured with stick.








Burt 03-30-2006 05:56 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote

> It appears from your post that you done all of the work yourself--or with
> the help of your friends. It was obvious that the OR (original poster)
> would have had to pay a mechanic to do the (tranny transplant) work. The
> mechanic probably would have charged the OR at least $1000.00 (for labor)
> and would have to pay about $500 to $1000 for a tranny that was in perfect
> condition.
> Jason


You're correct . Labor would have totaled $1000 or more. Today's rate
is $55/hour. It took us 18 hours. Parts for the 98 prelude would have
exceeded $2000. The transmission computer would nearly cost as much
as the transmission itself.

Every stick we own were swapped into auto for the reason that the model
we need to do the job were mostly manufactured with stick.








Matt Ion 03-31-2006 01:26 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
Burt wrote:
> <vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>
>>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
>>possible to change it to automatic?

>
>
> We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
> cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
> will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
> the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
> central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
> figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.


I'm gonna go against the grain here too and say, it's definitely
POSSIBLE, and it's certainly not IMPRACTICAL... IF you're planning to do
it as a DIY, learn-how-things-work project.

> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.


A trade only picks your pocket if you go through a dealer, or if you
ALLOW your pocket to be picked. The trick is simply to find someone
with a similar auto car who would prefer a standard. Personally, if I
had an auto Prelude in similar condition to the OP's, I'd trade straight
across in a heartbeat. Autos are convenient if you spend a lot of time
in stop-and-go traffic... other than that, they're a drag to drive.

Of course, the other option here is to simply LEARN to drive a
standard... it's really not that hard.


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Matt Ion 03-31-2006 01:26 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
Burt wrote:
> <vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>
>
>>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
>>possible to change it to automatic?

>
>
> We did a swap long ago that went fine. The transmission needs a
> cooler so you will need a 12" x 12" x 1" cooler from the salvage yard. You
> will need a gear selector with the safety switch and the cable. You will need
> the throttle cable and a throttle lever. And if the tranny is controlled by a
> central computer, which ours didn't, then get a harness and TCU and
> figure out how it integrates with the ECU. You will need a drive plate.


I'm gonna go against the grain here too and say, it's definitely
POSSIBLE, and it's certainly not IMPRACTICAL... IF you're planning to do
it as a DIY, learn-how-things-work project.

> You might wonder why, but the swap cost about $500 in parts but to
> trade in for an auto would cost 5 times as much. Plus, we love the car.


A trade only picks your pocket if you go through a dealer, or if you
ALLOW your pocket to be picked. The trick is simply to find someone
with a similar auto car who would prefer a standard. Personally, if I
had an auto Prelude in similar condition to the OP's, I'd trade straight
across in a heartbeat. Autos are convenient if you spend a lot of time
in stop-and-go traffic... other than that, they're a drag to drive.

Of course, the other option here is to simply LEARN to drive a
standard... it's really not that hard.


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Michael Pardee 03-31-2006 07:51 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
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> Of course, the other option here is to simply LEARN to drive a standard...
> it's really not that hard.
>

I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and had
to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.

Mike.



Michael Pardee 03-31-2006 07:51 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Matt Ion" <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in message
news:7Y3Xf.203089$sa3.179772@pd7tw1no...
> Of course, the other option here is to simply LEARN to drive a standard...
> it's really not that hard.
>

I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and had
to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.

Mike.



Skyhawk 03-31-2006 10:37 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
it's also possible to learn to drive a manual!


<vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1143659222.775975.88580@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> possible to change it to automatic?
>




Skyhawk 03-31-2006 10:37 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
it's also possible to learn to drive a manual!


<vatana@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1143659222.775975.88580@z34g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
> possible to change it to automatic?
>




Burt 04-02-2006 12:28 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote

> I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
> clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and
>had to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.


A computer-controlled clutch that allows the driver to make gear
changes without touching the clutch pedal. These gear changes can
be done by the computer far quicker than even the fastest human
being with a conventional manual transmission.

I have a plan to incorporate this idea onto a VX but I'd been wrestling
whether to design one using motors or vacuum. Anybody have ideas?






Burt 04-02-2006 12:28 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote

> I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
> clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and
>had to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.


A computer-controlled clutch that allows the driver to make gear
changes without touching the clutch pedal. These gear changes can
be done by the computer far quicker than even the fastest human
being with a conventional manual transmission.

I have a plan to incorporate this idea onto a VX but I'd been wrestling
whether to design one using motors or vacuum. Anybody have ideas?






Jason 04-02-2006 02:16 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
In article <NhJXf.54680$F_3.33280@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> , "Burt"
<burtsquareman@none.com> wrote:

> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
>
> > I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
> > clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and
> >had to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.

>
> A computer-controlled clutch that allows the driver to make gear
> changes without touching the clutch pedal. These gear changes can
> be done by the computer far quicker than even the fastest human
> being with a conventional manual transmission.
>
> I have a plan to incorporate this idea onto a VX but I'd been wrestling
> whether to design one using motors or vacuum. Anybody have ideas?


I doubt that any companies would buy it. I subscribe to various car
magazine and I have read about some of the newest cars that have auto.
transmissions but allow the driver to change gears (almost like a manual
gear shift) or shift it into one of the gears and not have to use the
manual mode (auto. mode). Such a system is great because the husband or
teenage child could shift gears (manual mode) and the wife would not have
to shift gears (auto. mode). Visit a BMW and Acura dealership and take a
look at those cars.
Jason

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Jason 04-02-2006 02:16 PM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
In article <NhJXf.54680$F_3.33280@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> , "Burt"
<burtsquareman@none.com> wrote:

> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote
>
> > I assume the OP has a physical problem that prevents him from using the
> > clutch. I injured the tendons in the sole of my left foot years ago and
> >had to clutch with my heel for a year. No fun.

>
> A computer-controlled clutch that allows the driver to make gear
> changes without touching the clutch pedal. These gear changes can
> be done by the computer far quicker than even the fastest human
> being with a conventional manual transmission.
>
> I have a plan to incorporate this idea onto a VX but I'd been wrestling
> whether to design one using motors or vacuum. Anybody have ideas?


I doubt that any companies would buy it. I subscribe to various car
magazine and I have read about some of the newest cars that have auto.
transmissions but allow the driver to change gears (almost like a manual
gear shift) or shift it into one of the gears and not have to use the
manual mode (auto. mode). Such a system is great because the husband or
teenage child could shift gears (manual mode) and the wife would not have
to shift gears (auto. mode). Visit a BMW and Acura dealership and take a
look at those cars.
Jason

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Burt 04-03-2006 08:23 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote

> I doubt that any companies would buy it. I subscribe to various car
> magazine and I have read about some of the newest cars that have auto.
> transmissions but allow the driver to change gears (almost like a manual
> gear shift) or shift it into one of the gears and not have to use the
> manual mode (auto. mode). Such a system is great because the husband or
> teenage child could shift gears (manual mode) and the wife would not have
> to shift gears (auto. mode). Visit a BMW and Acura dealership and take a
> look at those cars.
> Jason


Toyota also makes a similar technology. I believe that it will work like this:

When starting out you'll open the throttle and the computer will engage the
clutch. If you open the throttle only a little, the computer will allow the
clutch to slip a bit. The computer won't let the clutch out fast enough to stall
the motor, just like a skilled rider. The driver shifts gears by moving the
floorshift to the "+" (upshift) or "-" (downshift) positions.



Burt 04-03-2006 08:23 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
"Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote

> I doubt that any companies would buy it. I subscribe to various car
> magazine and I have read about some of the newest cars that have auto.
> transmissions but allow the driver to change gears (almost like a manual
> gear shift) or shift it into one of the gears and not have to use the
> manual mode (auto. mode). Such a system is great because the husband or
> teenage child could shift gears (manual mode) and the wife would not have
> to shift gears (auto. mode). Visit a BMW and Acura dealership and take a
> look at those cars.
> Jason


Toyota also makes a similar technology. I believe that it will work like this:

When starting out you'll open the throttle and the computer will engage the
clutch. If you open the throttle only a little, the computer will allow the
clutch to slip a bit. The computer won't let the clutch out fast enough to stall
the motor, just like a skilled rider. The driver shifts gears by moving the
floorshift to the "+" (upshift) or "-" (downshift) positions.



Newhope via CarKB.com 04-05-2006 10:26 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
comparing of swapping the transmission and learning how to drive a stick
shift, then the 2nd task is easier. At least, you gained your knowledge of
driving a manual.

Swapping, techically, you can but in reality, it would cost you more than you
could expect. In short, it would be your headache (even worse, your nightmare)
, if you are not an experienced mechanic and do the swap by yourself.

If you still want to drive the automatic, then simply trade in to get the
right one that suits best to your needs.
If you want to learn how to drive a stick shift, then go for it.
If you want doing the swap, you can gain some knowldege during your swap too.
All depends on what your priority is.

Good luck!


vatana@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
>possible to change it to automatic?


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Newhope via CarKB.com 04-05-2006 10:26 AM

Re: changing manual to automatic
 
comparing of swapping the transmission and learning how to drive a stick
shift, then the 2nd task is easier. At least, you gained your knowledge of
driving a manual.

Swapping, techically, you can but in reality, it would cost you more than you
could expect. In short, it would be your headache (even worse, your nightmare)
, if you are not an experienced mechanic and do the swap by yourself.

If you still want to drive the automatic, then simply trade in to get the
right one that suits best to your needs.
If you want to learn how to drive a stick shift, then go for it.
If you want doing the swap, you can gain some knowldege during your swap too.
All depends on what your priority is.

Good luck!


vatana@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>i have a 98 prelude waitn to be used, but i cant drive a manual, is it
>possible to change it to automatic?


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