Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
be ok. But the problem persists.

The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
opening and closing has reduced a lot...

So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.

SKI

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

"ski" <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up.

Check the engine side of the radiator. Is it corroded or eaten away? May be
time for a new radiator. Is the A/C fan kicking in?


> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...

Apply some silicon lubricant to the window slides. There's also a lubricated
arm inside the door that dries out.

Stewart DIBBS

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

"ski" <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up.

Check the engine side of the radiator. Is it corroded or eaten away? May be
time for a new radiator. Is the A/C fan kicking in?


> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...

Apply some silicon lubricant to the window slides. There's also a lubricated
arm inside the door that dries out.

Stewart DIBBS

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

"ski" <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up.

Check the engine side of the radiator. Is it corroded or eaten away? May be
time for a new radiator. Is the A/C fan kicking in?


> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...

Apply some silicon lubricant to the window slides. There's also a lubricated
arm inside the door that dries out.

Stewart DIBBS

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
<skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
be ok. But the problem persists.

The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
opening and closing has reduced a lot...

So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.

SKI

SKI,
These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
radiators. The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
car. If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
than buying a newer car.
Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
<skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
be ok. But the problem persists.

The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
opening and closing has reduced a lot...

So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.

SKI

SKI,
These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
radiators. The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
car. If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
than buying a newer car.
Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
<skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
be ok. But the problem persists.

The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
opening and closing has reduced a lot...

So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.

SKI

SKI,
These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
radiators. The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
car. If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
than buying a newer car.
Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
> <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
> SKI,
> These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
> When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
> me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
> least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
> radiators.

and how many were hondas? i drive that way every couple of months, have
done so for nearly 10 years [family in vegas] and i can count the number
of broken hondas on the fingers of one hand. in fact, i've done it on a
half empty radiator, and the car /still/ wasn't overheating. in july.

> The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
> car.

jason, with respect, "buy a newer car" is not a solution. new cars
break down. in fact, new [post 2000] hondas are really nothing special
in the reliability department at all. there's a thing called a "bathtub
curve" in reliability stats. it means there's a comparatively high
probability of failure when new, then it drops off significantly,
finally rising again towards the end of the design life. if this
vehicle is still in the low part of the curve, it's got a lower
probability of failure than a new car. at least, when the current
problem's been fixed at any rate. which is what the op's asking about.

> If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
> thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
> with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
> on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
> when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
> may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
> the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
> than buying a newer car.
> Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
> <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
> SKI,
> These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
> When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
> me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
> least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
> radiators.

and how many were hondas? i drive that way every couple of months, have
done so for nearly 10 years [family in vegas] and i can count the number
of broken hondas on the fingers of one hand. in fact, i've done it on a
half empty radiator, and the car /still/ wasn't overheating. in july.

> The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
> car.

jason, with respect, "buy a newer car" is not a solution. new cars
break down. in fact, new [post 2000] hondas are really nothing special
in the reliability department at all. there's a thing called a "bathtub
curve" in reliability stats. it means there's a comparatively high
probability of failure when new, then it drops off significantly,
finally rising again towards the end of the design life. if this
vehicle is still in the low part of the curve, it's got a lower
probability of failure than a new car. at least, when the current
problem's been fixed at any rate. which is what the op's asking about.

> If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
> thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
> with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
> on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
> when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
> may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
> the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
> than buying a newer car.
> Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
> <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
> SKI,
> These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
> When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
> me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
> least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
> radiators.

and how many were hondas? i drive that way every couple of months, have
done so for nearly 10 years [family in vegas] and i can count the number
of broken hondas on the fingers of one hand. in fact, i've done it on a
half empty radiator, and the car /still/ wasn't overheating. in july.

> The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
> car.

jason, with respect, "buy a newer car" is not a solution. new cars
break down. in fact, new [post 2000] hondas are really nothing special
in the reliability department at all. there's a thing called a "bathtub
curve" in reliability stats. it means there's a comparatively high
probability of failure when new, then it drops off significantly,
finally rising again towards the end of the design life. if this
vehicle is still in the low part of the curve, it's got a lower
probability of failure than a new car. at least, when the current
problem's been fixed at any rate. which is what the op's asking about.

> If you plan to keep the 1986 Civic, you could install a new
> thermostat. It may or may not help. If you have the system recharged
> with freon--that might help since the compressor will not have to stay
> on as long. Also, open the cap on the radiator at least once a week
> when the engine is cold to make sure it's full. If it's not full, you
> may have a leak in the cooling system and that could be the source of
> the problem. I wish that I had a magic solution but there is not one--other
> than buying a newer car.
> Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

ski wrote:
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
replace the thermostat with new oem. use good quality coolant [do not
dilute with tap water, use distilled] and a new radiator cap. /after/
you've checked for head gasket and other leaks.

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

ski wrote:
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
replace the thermostat with new oem. use good quality coolant [do not
dilute with tap water, use distilled] and a new radiator cap. /after/
you've checked for head gasket and other leaks.

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

ski wrote:
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
replace the thermostat with new oem. use good quality coolant [do not
dilute with tap water, use distilled] and a new radiator cap. /after/
you've checked for head gasket and other leaks.

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

In article <NOqdnSfSWLWo-u_Z4p2dnA@speakeasy.net>, jim beam
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
> <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
> SKI,
> These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
> When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
> me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
> least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
> radiators.

and how many were hondas? i drive that way every couple of months, have
done so for nearly 10 years [family in vegas] and i can count the number
of broken hondas on the fingers of one hand. in fact, i've done it on a
half empty radiator, and the car /still/ wasn't overheating. in july.

> The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
> car.

jason, with respect, "buy a newer car" is not a solution. new cars
break down. in fact, new [post 2000] hondas are really nothing special
in the reliability department at all. there's a thing called a "bathtub
curve" in reliability stats. it means there's a comparatively high
probability of failure when new, then it drops off significantly,
finally rising again towards the end of the design life. if this
vehicle is still in the low part of the curve, it's got a lower
probability of failure than a new car. at least, when the current
problem's been fixed at any rate. which is what the op's asking about.

Jim,
I did not write down the types of cars that I saw but did note that all of
them were very old cars. I did not see any newer cars. I saw some signs
indicating that air conditioners should be turned off to keep cars from
overheating. I kept my AC on and the temp. guage ever went past the
halfway mark--I have a 99 Accord EX. I still believe that cars that are 15
or more years old are more likely to have cooling system problems than
cars that are less than 7 years old. The reason is usually due to the
build up of rust. I once flushed out the cooling system of an old Chevy
and was amazed at all of the gunk and rust that I flushed out of that car.
As you know, many people NEVER have had the cooling system of their cars
flushed out. I doubt that rust is much of a problem with the alum.
engines. Old cars are also more likely to have rusted out radiators that
leak.
Jason

Re: Civic 1986 with heating and aged mechanical problem
 

In article <NOqdnSfSWLWo-u_Z4p2dnA@speakeasy.net>, jim beam
<nospam@example.net> wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
> In article <1148295480.923068.175830@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups .com>, "ski"
> <skirshad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 1986 Honda Civic, Automatic Transmission, fully loaded, it has
> few problems when ever the AC is turned on the car heats up. I have
> been to car mechanics and after few repair touches they say now it will
> be ok. But the problem persists.
>
> The other problem is that due to i think age factor the speed of window
> opening and closing has reduced a lot...
>
> So if any one has a practically applied tip for me please advice.
>
> SKI
>
> SKI,
> These sorts of issues are common with cars that are over 15 years old.
> When I took a trip to Los Vegas via Interstate highway 58 which caused
> me to have to travel thru the Mojave Desert (Death Valley), I saw at
> least a dozen old cars next to the road with steam coming out of the
> radiators.

and how many were hondas? i drive that way every couple of months, have
done so for nearly 10 years [family in vegas] and i can count the number
of broken hondas on the fingers of one hand. in fact, i've done it on a
half empty radiator, and the car /still/ wasn't overheating. in july.

> The best solution would be to trade the car in on a newer
> car.

jason, with respect, "buy a newer car" is not a solution. new cars
break down. in fact, new [post 2000] hondas are really nothing special
in the reliability department at all. there's a thing called a "bathtub
curve" in reliability stats. it means there's a comparatively high
probability of failure when new, then it drops off significantly,
finally rising again towards the end of the design life. if this
vehicle is still in the low part of the curve, it's got a lower
probability of failure than a new car. at least, when the current
problem's been fixed at any rate. which is what the op's asking about.

Jim,
I did not write down the types of cars that I saw but did note that all of
them were very old cars. I did not see any newer cars. I saw some signs
indicating that air conditioners should be turned off to keep cars from
overheating. I kept my AC on and the temp. guage ever went past the
halfway mark--I have a 99 Accord EX. I still believe that cars that are 15
or more years old are more likely to have cooling system problems than
cars that are less than 7 years old. The reason is usually due to the
build up of rust. I once flushed out the cooling system of an old Chevy
and was amazed at all of the gunk and rust that I flushed out of that car.
As you know, many people NEVER have had the cooling system of their cars
flushed out. I doubt that rust is much of a problem with the alum.
engines. Old cars are also more likely to have rusted out radiators that
leak.
Jason