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civic hybrid mileage
I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have
*loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten closer than 10 MPG under. It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better after the break-in period? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what
really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even with a tax deduction. Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. CaptainKrunch "Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com... > I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have > *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that > I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a > little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I > know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten > closer than 10 MPG under. > > It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from > work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of > modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do > to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. > > What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my > mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better > after the break-in period? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what
really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even with a tax deduction. Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. CaptainKrunch "Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com... > I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have > *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that > I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a > little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I > know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten > closer than 10 MPG under. > > It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from > work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of > modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do > to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. > > What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my > mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better > after the break-in period? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what
really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even with a tax deduction. Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. CaptainKrunch "Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com... > I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have > *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that > I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a > little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I > know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten > closer than 10 MPG under. > > It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from > work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of > modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do > to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. > > What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my > mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better > after the break-in period? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what
really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even with a tax deduction. Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. CaptainKrunch "Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com... > I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have > *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that > I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a > little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I > know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten > closer than 10 MPG under. > > It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from > work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of > modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do > to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. > > What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my > mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better > after the break-in period? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger Bigger? How much? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger Bigger? How much? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger Bigger? How much? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
"CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger Bigger? How much? |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
The hybrid has 10 cubic feet of cargo capacity and the standard civic has
over 12. The Civic EX loaded is MSRP of 18k where as the hybrid is over 20K and the EX has about 20 more horsepower while getting and EPA rated 38 mpg on the freeway. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:DiiLb.53157$1g41.17355@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean > what > > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage > than > > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger > > Bigger? > How much? > > |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
The hybrid has 10 cubic feet of cargo capacity and the standard civic has
over 12. The Civic EX loaded is MSRP of 18k where as the hybrid is over 20K and the EX has about 20 more horsepower while getting and EPA rated 38 mpg on the freeway. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:DiiLb.53157$1g41.17355@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean > what > > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage > than > > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger > > Bigger? > How much? > > |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
The hybrid has 10 cubic feet of cargo capacity and the standard civic has
over 12. The Civic EX loaded is MSRP of 18k where as the hybrid is over 20K and the EX has about 20 more horsepower while getting and EPA rated 38 mpg on the freeway. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:DiiLb.53157$1g41.17355@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean > what > > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage > than > > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger > > Bigger? > How much? > > |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
The hybrid has 10 cubic feet of cargo capacity and the standard civic has
over 12. The Civic EX loaded is MSRP of 18k where as the hybrid is over 20K and the EX has about 20 more horsepower while getting and EPA rated 38 mpg on the freeway. CaptainKrunch "Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowPOV@rogers.com> wrote in message news:DiiLb.53157$1g41.17355@twister01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.com... > > "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message > news:04-dnV--z_hNAmCiRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > > Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean > what > > really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage > than > > a standard Honda Civic which is bigger > > Bigger? > How much? > > |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
I would beg to differ on both counts.
According the Honda website, the cars are identical in overall size. They have exactly the same passenger compartment measurements. The trunk is 2 cu ft larger in the Civic than the Hybrid which I assume is because of the batteries). Don't know what you mean by "more substantial" so I can't comment on that. EPA mileage estimates for the Hybrid are 46/51 MT; the MT Civic is rated at 32/38. That's about 44% higher city and 34% higher highway mileage. That sounds pretty significant to me. On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:26:49 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what >really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than >a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They >both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, >you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of >batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to >dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I >forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even >with a tax deduction. > >Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are >helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda >vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. > >CaptainKrunch > > > >"Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message >news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com. .. >> I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have >> *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that >> I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a >> little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I >> know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten >> closer than 10 MPG under. >> >> It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from >> work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of >> modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do >> to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. >> >> What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my >> mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better >> after the break-in period? > |
Re: civic hybrid mileage
I would beg to differ on both counts.
According the Honda website, the cars are identical in overall size. They have exactly the same passenger compartment measurements. The trunk is 2 cu ft larger in the Civic than the Hybrid which I assume is because of the batteries). Don't know what you mean by "more substantial" so I can't comment on that. EPA mileage estimates for the Hybrid are 46/51 MT; the MT Civic is rated at 32/38. That's about 44% higher city and 34% higher highway mileage. That sounds pretty significant to me. On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:26:49 -0800, "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote: >Personally I don't see the fascination with these hybrid cars. I mean what >really are you saving anyway? They don't get that much better mileage than >a standard Honda Civic which is bigger and a more substantial car. They >both use gas. And at the end of 100,000 miles or so, if you buy a hybrid, >you are having to spend several thousand dollars to buy 1000 lbs or so of >batteries to replace the old ones in the hybrid. You also don't have to >dispose of these batteries which are considered hazardous material. I >forgot to mention that the cost of the hybrid is higher than the Civic even >with a tax deduction. > >Strictly from an environmental standpoint I don't think these things are >helping the environment at all and in fact may be hurting it. Honda >vehicles in general already have extremely low emissions. > >CaptainKrunch > > > >"Gary Gorbet" <ggorbet@houston.rr.com> wrote in message >news:070120042110075950%ggorbet@houston.rr.com. .. >> I have a 2003 Civic Hybrid. It's got about 3500 miles on it now. I have >> *loved* driving this car - quiet, smooth and peppy. But I must say that >> I'm somewhat disappointed in the mileage I'm getting. It's averaging a >> little better than 39 MPG. The EPA estimate is just under 50 MPG. I >> know EPA is always high, but I would have thought I'd have gotten >> closer than 10 MPG under. >> >> It is true that most of my driving is the 20 minute trip to and from >> work in stop and go traffic. I think I've done a pretty good job of >> modifying my driving habits to the hybrid. I'm not sure what I could do >> to maximize mileage, any more that what I've been doing. >> >> What I'd like to hear is the experience of other Hybrid owners. Is my >> mileage reasonable for the kind of driving I do? Does it get better >> after the break-in period? > |
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