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abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-25-2007 01:56 PM

civic vti brake rattle
 
hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
trick? heelllllppppp!


Jeff 09-26-2007 09:46 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?

<abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> trick? heelllllppppp!
>



Jeff 09-26-2007 09:46 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?

<abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> trick? heelllllppppp!
>



abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-26-2007 01:15 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?
>
> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> > your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> > on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> > brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> > movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> > side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> > fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> > all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> > idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> > or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> > trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?


abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-26-2007 01:15 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?
>
> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> > your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> > on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> > brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> > movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> > side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> > fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> > all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> > idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> > or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> > trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?


Happy Camper 09-27-2007 11:24 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
>> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?
>>
>> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
>>> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
>>> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
>>> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
>>> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
>>> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
>>> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
>>> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
>>> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
>>> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
>>> trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
> replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?
>

Is it possible that an independent garage did the work and replaced
major parts, with just slightly different sized ones, or left off
'minor' pieces, or used aftermarket pads that are just 'slightly'
different from factory pads?

Happy Camper 09-27-2007 11:24 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
>> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?
>>
>> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
>>> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
>>> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
>>> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
>>> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
>>> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
>>> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
>>> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
>>> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
>>> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
>>> trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
> replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?
>

Is it possible that an independent garage did the work and replaced
major parts, with just slightly different sized ones, or left off
'minor' pieces, or used aftermarket pads that are just 'slightly'
different from factory pads?

abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-27-2007 01:16 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On Sep 27, 4:24 pm, Happy Camper <HappyCamper_in_landf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
> >> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?

>
> >> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.google groups.com...

>
> >>> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> >>> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> >>> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> >>> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> >>> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> >>> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> >>> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> >>> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> >>> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> >>> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> >>> trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
> > replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?

>
> Is it possible that an independent garage did the work and replaced
> major parts, with just slightly different sized ones, or left off
> 'minor' pieces, or used aftermarket pads that are just 'slightly'
> different from factory pads?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
plates put on


abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-27-2007 01:16 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On Sep 27, 4:24 pm, Happy Camper <HappyCamper_in_landf...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > On 26 Sep, 14:46, "Jeff" <ho...@hondas.hon> wrote:
> >> is it possible that someone changed the calipers to a bigger size?

>
> >> <abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1190742979.309094.180630@o80g2000hse.google groups.com...

>
> >>> hi guys thanks for the help on my other issue got a new one to pick
> >>> your brains with, recently i ve noticed a rattle from my rear brakes
> >>> on exploring all the bushes and replacing them!!!! i found that the
> >>> brake pads a were a slight smaller, they would fit in but they had
> >>> movement after putting the caliper back on. there is movement from
> >>> side to side as it is not a perfect fit as they are not long enough to
> >>> fit tight, i have put aftermarket pad and original Honda pads replaced
> >>> all shims and anti rattle plates but no joy. have you guys got any
> >>> idea to solve this as it really bugs me when i go over a cobbled round
> >>> or an uneven road surface. would any other pads from Honda do the
> >>> trick? heelllllppppp!- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > i did have the calipers replaced (recon ones) about 6 months ago and
> > replaced them with aftermarket pads no rattles then, why now?

>
> Is it possible that an independent garage did the work and replaced
> major parts, with just slightly different sized ones, or left off
> 'minor' pieces, or used aftermarket pads that are just 'slightly'
> different from factory pads?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
plates put on


Tegger 09-27-2007 09:49 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com:


>
> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
> plates put on
>



Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This spring is
made of sheet stainless steel. When you install the caliper, the spring
must be compressed (you need to push down on the caliper) before you can
put the caliper mounting bolts into the pins.

If the spring is missing or deformed, it will not clamp the pads down and
the pads will rattle. I have also seen the ends break or wear off the
springs, to the same effect.

The good part about this is that the rattle shows your caliper pistons are
obviously working correctly!

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 09-27-2007 09:49 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com:


>
> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
> plates put on
>



Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This spring is
made of sheet stainless steel. When you install the caliper, the spring
must be compressed (you need to push down on the caliper) before you can
put the caliper mounting bolts into the pins.

If the spring is missing or deformed, it will not clamp the pads down and
the pads will rattle. I have also seen the ends break or wear off the
springs, to the same effect.

The good part about this is that the rattle shows your caliper pistons are
obviously working correctly!

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 09-27-2007 09:58 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns99B8DDD48AC2Ftegger@207.14.116.130:

> abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
> news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com:
>
>
>>
>> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
>> plates put on
>>

>
>
> Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This
> spring is made of sheet stainless steel.




I forgot to say: it looks kind of like a bent I-beam. (If yours look like
mine; you don't say what year your car is.)



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 09-27-2007 09:58 PM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns99B8DDD48AC2Ftegger@207.14.116.130:

> abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
> news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegrou ps.com:
>
>
>>
>> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
>> plates put on
>>

>
>
> Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This
> spring is made of sheet stainless steel.




I forgot to say: it looks kind of like a bent I-beam. (If yours look like
mine; you don't say what year your car is.)



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-29-2007 05:06 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On Sep 28, 2:58 am, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns99B8DDD48AC2Ftegger@207.14.116.130:
>
> > abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
> >news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com:

>
> >> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
> >> plates put on

>
> > Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This
> > spring is made of sheet stainless steel.

>
> I forgot to say: it looks kind of like a bent I-beam. (If yours look like
> mine; you don't say what year your car is.)
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/


dont know about that but i will check it out, garage did mention that
the pads should have a clip or something to puull both pads together
around the disc, thanks for the info!!!!


abdulmulla82@hotmail.co.uk 09-29-2007 05:06 AM

Re: civic vti brake rattle
 
On Sep 28, 2:58 am, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote innews:Xns99B8DDD48AC2Ftegger@207.14.116.130:
>
> > abdulmull...@hotmail.co.uk wrote in
> >news:1190913406.152601.51770@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com:

>
> >> i got recon honda calipers and genuine honda pads with all shims and
> >> plates put on

>
> > Do your calipers have the anti-rattle spring still in them? This
> > spring is made of sheet stainless steel.

>
> I forgot to say: it looks kind of like a bent I-beam. (If yours look like
> mine; you don't say what year your car is.)
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQwww.tegger.com/hondafaq/


dont know about that but i will check it out, garage did mention that
the pads should have a clip or something to puull both pads together
around the disc, thanks for the info!!!!



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