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Re: civic won't start
Plug wires to the right plugs?
fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
Plug wires to the right plugs?
fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
"fascion" <onefortyseven@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165478334.863409.140440@16g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > I fear the ignition coil was zapped (http://tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#badcoil - the picture is from my son's car when he used the starter to turn the engine without the coil going anywhere). The test you described is from the olden days when ignition coils didn't handle the amount of power they do now. Many modern coils can't handle it, and that definitely goes for Hondas. Mike |
Re: civic won't start
"fascion" <onefortyseven@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165478334.863409.140440@16g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > I fear the ignition coil was zapped (http://tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#badcoil - the picture is from my son's car when he used the starter to turn the engine without the coil going anywhere). The test you described is from the olden days when ignition coils didn't handle the amount of power they do now. Many modern coils can't handle it, and that definitely goes for Hondas. Mike |
Re: civic won't start
"fascion" <onefortyseven@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165478334.863409.140440@16g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > I fear the ignition coil was zapped (http://tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#badcoil - the picture is from my son's car when he used the starter to turn the engine without the coil going anywhere). The test you described is from the olden days when ignition coils didn't handle the amount of power they do now. Many modern coils can't handle it, and that definitely goes for Hondas. Mike |
Re: civic won't start
"fascion" <onefortyseven@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165478334.863409.140440@16g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com... > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > I fear the ignition coil was zapped (http://tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#badcoil - the picture is from my son's car when he used the starter to turn the engine without the coil going anywhere). The test you described is from the olden days when ignition coils didn't handle the amount of power they do now. Many modern coils can't handle it, and that definitely goes for Hondas. Mike |
Re: civic won't start
Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts:
If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when on the compression stroke at TDC. -SP fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts:
If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when on the compression stroke at TDC. -SP fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts:
If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when on the compression stroke at TDC. -SP fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts:
If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when on the compression stroke at TDC. -SP fascion wrote: > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > but won't start. > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > plug wires before the rebuild. > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > suppose... > |
Re: civic won't start
Yep... A common mistake. OTOH, being a mere 15-20 degrees off can
cause you heartburn too.. JT Speedy Pete wrote: > > Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts: > > If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 > degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when > on the compression stroke at TDC. > > -SP > > fascion wrote: > > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > > but won't start. > > > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > > plug wires before the rebuild. > > > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > > suppose... > > |
Re: civic won't start
Yep... A common mistake. OTOH, being a mere 15-20 degrees off can
cause you heartburn too.. JT Speedy Pete wrote: > > Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts: > > If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 > degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when > on the compression stroke at TDC. > > -SP > > fascion wrote: > > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > > but won't start. > > > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > > plug wires before the rebuild. > > > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > > suppose... > > |
Re: civic won't start
Yep... A common mistake. OTOH, being a mere 15-20 degrees off can
cause you heartburn too.. JT Speedy Pete wrote: > > Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts: > > If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 > degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when > on the compression stroke at TDC. > > -SP > > fascion wrote: > > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > > but won't start. > > > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > > plug wires before the rebuild. > > > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > > suppose... > > |
Re: civic won't start
Yep... A common mistake. OTOH, being a mere 15-20 degrees off can
cause you heartburn too.. JT Speedy Pete wrote: > > Didnt see this suggestion in the previous posts: > > If I remember right it IS possible to install the distributor 180 > degrees off. Check and make sure the dist. rotor is pointing to #1 when > on the compression stroke at TDC. > > -SP > > fascion wrote: > > my civic was running rough, felt like it was running 3 cylinders, so to > > test which wasn't firing, i was advised to pull the plug wires one at a > > time with the engine running, and if it kept going, that was the bad > > cylinder. well, pulled the first plug wire, it died. started the car > > again, pulled the second, it died, then the car never started again. > > > > pulled the motor, turns out a valve was blown, missing a large chunk on > > one side, so after all valves replaced, new gaskets, new rings, and a > > new alternator, the motor was put back in. engine cranks over and over, > > but won't start. > > > > all plugs have spark, all cylinders have compression, and timing is > > correct (not 100% sure). the cylinders are getting gas, and the intake > > is opening. everything appears ok, so i'm beginning to think that a > > fuse or relay is blown, or something is shorted from when i pulled the > > plug wires before the rebuild. > > > > I'd love to hear that it's possibly a fuse or relay, but if nothing > > rings a bell with anyone, i'll go over the timing for the 3rd time i > > suppose... > > |
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