Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> > was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> > clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> > starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> > Thanks
> > Josh
> >
> >
>
> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
> solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
> the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
> You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
> solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to
> do my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the
> aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and
> plunger was easy.
>
> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
> starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
> clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
> completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>

I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the plunger and
never had a come back. There's very little wear on the plunger side of the
contact. Honda used to, and may still sell a replacement starter contact
kit. These included the contact and the plastic bushings. In addition,
just so others know, the contact can usually be replaced with the starter
still in the car (only one of the contacts need to be replaced as the other
does not wear much at all). I've done many and not found a need to remove
it. These were mostly earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose
that some later models which could have more crowded engine compartments
might be problematic.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> > was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> > clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> > starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> > Thanks
> > Josh
> >
> >
>
> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
> solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
> the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
> You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
> solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to
> do my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the
> aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and
> plunger was easy.
>
> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
> starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
> clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
> completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>

I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the plunger and
never had a come back. There's very little wear on the plunger side of the
contact. Honda used to, and may still sell a replacement starter contact
kit. These included the contact and the plastic bushings. In addition,
just so others know, the contact can usually be replaced with the starter
still in the car (only one of the contacts need to be replaced as the other
does not wear much at all). I've done many and not found a need to remove
it. These were mostly earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose
that some later models which could have more crowded engine compartments
might be problematic.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
>
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
> > was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
> > clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
> > starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
> > Thanks
> > Josh
> >
> >
>
> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a replaceable
> solenoid....without having to replace the entire starter,but if that's not
> the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then check out this site;
> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html
> You can buy replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the
> solenoid yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to
> do my starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into the
> aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts and
> plunger was easy.
>
> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by the
> starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You hear the
> clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the contacts are not
> completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>

I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the plunger and
never had a come back. There's very little wear on the plunger side of the
contact. Honda used to, and may still sell a replacement starter contact
kit. These included the contact and the plastic bushings. In addition,
just so others know, the contact can usually be replaced with the starter
still in the car (only one of the contacts need to be replaced as the other
does not wear much at all). I've done many and not found a need to remove
it. These were mostly earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose
that some later models which could have more crowded engine compartments
might be problematic.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade. :(
>

I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade. :(
>

I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade. :(
>

I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> I'm a bit disappointed Honda is not buying starters from Mitsuba any more.
> Now we have the same "contact" failures Toyota owners have had for a
> decade. :(
>

I'm a bit confused. Honda has had starter contact problems for years. I
replaced the starter contact on my '78 Accord. Early Civics from the same
vintage, e.g. '76, also used a starter with a replaceable contact.

Eric

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97F2D7133F577tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
>> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> Thanks
>> Josh
>>
>
>
> Checked the battery's state-of-charge?
>
> Cleaned the cables and connections?
>
> Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


I agree, I forgot to hook up the ground cable that connects the body with
the tranny on my 97 Civic EX after the same repair. it would click but would
not turn.

Vic

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97F2D7133F577tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
>> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> Thanks
>> Josh
>>
>
>
> Checked the battery's state-of-charge?
>
> Cleaned the cables and connections?
>
> Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


I agree, I forgot to hook up the ground cable that connects the body with
the tranny on my 97 Civic EX after the same repair. it would click but would
not turn.

Vic

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97F2D7133F577tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
>> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> Thanks
>> Josh
>>
>
>
> Checked the battery's state-of-charge?
>
> Cleaned the cables and connections?
>
> Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


I agree, I forgot to hook up the ground cable that connects the body with
the tranny on my 97 Civic EX after the same repair. it would click but would
not turn.

Vic

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns97F2D7133F577tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>
>> I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX. It
>> was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear is a
>> clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but the
>> starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> Thanks
>> Josh
>>
>
>
> Checked the battery's state-of-charge?
>
> Cleaned the cables and connections?
>
> Do that first, then condemn more expensive stuff.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


I agree, I forgot to hook up the ground cable that connects the body with
the tranny on my 97 Civic EX after the same repair. it would click but would
not turn.

Vic

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:44A64570.2F291C2@spam.now:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>> > It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear
>> > is a clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but
>> > the starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> > Thanks
>> > Josh
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>> check out this site;
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html You can buy
>> replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the solenoid
>> yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do my
>> starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
>> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into
>> the aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts
>> and plunger was easy.
>>
>> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by
>> the starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You
>> hear the clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the
>> contacts are not completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>>
>
> I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the
> plunger and never had a come back. There's very little wear on the
> plunger side of the contact.

On my plunger,there was enough erosion that for $30,it was worth it to
replace the plunger too.The copper ring was bevelled enough that it would
make a poor contact(and would cause erosion quicker on the new
contacts),and since I was already in there....
You could get by with doing just the contacts,but I'd rather do a complete
job.


> Honda used to, and may still sell a
> replacement starter contact kit. These included the contact and the
> plastic bushings. In addition, just so others know, the contact can
> usually be replaced with the starter still in the car (only one of the
> contacts need to be replaced as the other does not wear much at all).

BOTH of my contacts were eroded ~50%. About HALF the original thickness.
YMMV.

> I've done many and not found a need to remove it. These were mostly
> earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose that some later
> models which could have more crowded engine compartments might be
> problematic.
>
> Eric
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:44A64570.2F291C2@spam.now:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>> > It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear
>> > is a clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but
>> > the starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> > Thanks
>> > Josh
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>> check out this site;
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html You can buy
>> replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the solenoid
>> yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do my
>> starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
>> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into
>> the aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts
>> and plunger was easy.
>>
>> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by
>> the starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You
>> hear the clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the
>> contacts are not completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>>
>
> I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the
> plunger and never had a come back. There's very little wear on the
> plunger side of the contact.

On my plunger,there was enough erosion that for $30,it was worth it to
replace the plunger too.The copper ring was bevelled enough that it would
make a poor contact(and would cause erosion quicker on the new
contacts),and since I was already in there....
You could get by with doing just the contacts,but I'd rather do a complete
job.


> Honda used to, and may still sell a
> replacement starter contact kit. These included the contact and the
> plastic bushings. In addition, just so others know, the contact can
> usually be replaced with the starter still in the car (only one of the
> contacts need to be replaced as the other does not wear much at all).

BOTH of my contacts were eroded ~50%. About HALF the original thickness.
YMMV.

> I've done many and not found a need to remove it. These were mostly
> earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose that some later
> models which could have more crowded engine compartments might be
> problematic.
>
> Eric
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:44A64570.2F291C2@spam.now:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>> > It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear
>> > is a clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but
>> > the starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> > Thanks
>> > Josh
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>> check out this site;
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html You can buy
>> replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the solenoid
>> yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do my
>> starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
>> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into
>> the aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts
>> and plunger was easy.
>>
>> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by
>> the starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You
>> hear the clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the
>> contacts are not completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>>
>
> I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the
> plunger and never had a come back. There's very little wear on the
> plunger side of the contact.

On my plunger,there was enough erosion that for $30,it was worth it to
replace the plunger too.The copper ring was bevelled enough that it would
make a poor contact(and would cause erosion quicker on the new
contacts),and since I was already in there....
You could get by with doing just the contacts,but I'd rather do a complete
job.


> Honda used to, and may still sell a
> replacement starter contact kit. These included the contact and the
> plastic bushings. In addition, just so others know, the contact can
> usually be replaced with the starter still in the car (only one of the
> contacts need to be replaced as the other does not wear much at all).

BOTH of my contacts were eroded ~50%. About HALF the original thickness.
YMMV.

> I've done many and not found a need to remove it. These were mostly
> earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose that some later
> models which could have more crowded engine compartments might be
> problematic.
>
> Eric
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Re: Clicking, but no starting
 

Eric <say.no@spam.now> wrote in news:44A64570.2F291C2@spam.now:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>
>> "YaleBoundCivic" <JoshuaS.Ray@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1151705764.352310.222420@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> > I recently replaced the clutch and flywheel on my 92 1.5l Civic LX.
>> > It was running just fine, but now when I turn the key all i hear
>> > is a clicking noise. It sounds like the solenoid is working, but
>> > the starter motor is not turning, any thoughts or corrections.
>> > Thanks
>> > Josh
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Probably a worn starter solenoid;IIRC,Civic starters have a
>> replaceable solenoid....without having to replace the entire
>> starter,but if that's not the case,as was with my 94 Integra,then
>> check out this site;
>> http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html You can buy
>> replacement solenoid contacts and plunger and "rebuild" the solenoid
>> yourself at considerable savings.It only cost me $30 USD PPD to do my
>> starter.The hardest part was getting the lower starter bolt out,in
>> order to remove the starter assembly for rework.It was frozen into
>> the aluminum block...the bolt has long threads.Replacing the contacts
>> and plunger was easy.
>>
>> The problem is that the contacts inside the solenoid get eroded by
>> the starter current and eventually do not make contact anymore. You
>> hear the clicking of the solenoid coil moving the plunger,but the
>> contacts are not completing the circuit for the motor to get power.
>>
>
> I've replaced many Honda starter contacts without replacing the
> plunger and never had a come back. There's very little wear on the
> plunger side of the contact.

On my plunger,there was enough erosion that for $30,it was worth it to
replace the plunger too.The copper ring was bevelled enough that it would
make a poor contact(and would cause erosion quicker on the new
contacts),and since I was already in there....
You could get by with doing just the contacts,but I'd rather do a complete
job.


> Honda used to, and may still sell a
> replacement starter contact kit. These included the contact and the
> plastic bushings. In addition, just so others know, the contact can
> usually be replaced with the starter still in the car (only one of the
> contacts need to be replaced as the other does not wear much at all).

BOTH of my contacts were eroded ~50%. About HALF the original thickness.
YMMV.

> I've done many and not found a need to remove it. These were mostly
> earlier cars up through the '91 Civic. I suppose that some later
> models which could have more crowded engine compartments might be
> problematic.
>
> Eric
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net