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Llatikcuf 11-01-2005 08:10 PM

Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:

Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
into neutral and let the clutch out?

Does it make a difference? Anybody?

-Nate


Seth 11-01-2005 08:15 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
"Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130893851.989799.296170@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?


As a motorcyclist I usually leave it in gear with the clutch depressed so I
am ready to move. Not cause I'm in a hurry, but more of a safety issue in
case there is something I need to react to.



Elle 11-01-2005 08:27 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
"Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote
> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?


My recollection is that you'll get more life out of the clutch if, during a
stop, you shift to neutral and let the clutch out.

You can google on this one and come up with some commercial, but free auto
advice commentary on the subject of optimal clutch operation. (That is,
operation to maximize your clutch's life.)



Elliot Richmond 11-01-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
On 1 Nov 2005 17:10:52 -0800, "Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote:

>Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
>Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
>into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
>Does it make a difference? Anybody?


When the clutch pedal is depressed, there is a load on the throw-out
bearing. So theoretically, putting the car in neutral and releasing
the clutch saves some wear and tear on the throw-out bearing, which is
the most common component to fail.

However, I think the difference is insignificant.



Elliot Richmond
Freelance Science Writer and Editor

TeGGeR® 11-01-2005 11:33 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
"Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1130893851.989799.296170@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>
> Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> into neutral and let the clutch out?
>
> Does it make a difference? Anybody?
>



It absolutely makes a difference. The wear on your release bearing is
immensely accelerated if you hold the clutch pedal down at lights.

If you're going to be sitting there for a minute or so, put the lever in
neutral and release the clutch. Be kind to your release bearing. It's cheap
itself, but is awfully expensive to get at.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Llatikcuf 11-01-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 
Thanks for all of the replies! Looks like I will shift to neutral from
now on.

-Nate


TWW 11-02-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 

"Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8rU9f.996$lg.436@news01.roc.ny...
> "Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1130893851.989799.296170@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
> >
> > Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or shift
> > into neutral and let the clutch out?
> >
> > Does it make a difference? Anybody?

>
> As a motorcyclist I usually leave it in gear with the clutch depressed so

I
> am ready to move. Not cause I'm in a hurry, but more of a safety issue in
> case there is something I need to react to.
>
>

No longer ride, but in my day of Nortons and Triumphs we always put 'er in
neutral and let the clutch out. Breaking clutch cables come to mind.
Anyway, if you were'nt careful and grabbed a bunch of throttle on take off,
she would spit back through Amals and die on you at the light -- leaving you
desperately kicking her over with the kick starter. When I bought a Honda
750-4 in 1970 or so, I felt spoiled.



Jim Yanik 11-02-2005 11:51 PM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 

>> "Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1130893851.989799.296170@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
>> >
>> > Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or
>> > shift into neutral and let the clutch out?
>> >



IF you're going to be stopped for a little while;
You should put the trans in neutral and let out the clutch;it saves the
*throwout bearing* between the rotating clutch pressure plate and the
stationary clutch fork.

If it's just a quick stop,just hold the clutch in until you can go again.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

TWW 11-05-2005 08:58 AM

Re: Clutch in or out at stop lights?
 

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9702F2986659Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.83.. .
>
> >> "Llatikcuf" <Llatikcuf@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1130893851.989799.296170@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >> > Probably doesn't matter, but I have always wondered:
> >> >
> >> > Is it better for the clutch to hold it in during a long stop, or
> >> > shift into neutral and let the clutch out?
> >> >

>
>
> IF you're going to be stopped for a little while;
> You should put the trans in neutral and let out the clutch;it saves the
> *throwout bearing* between the rotating clutch pressure plate and the
> stationary clutch fork.
>
> If it's just a quick stop,just hold the clutch in until you can go again.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


Have done that with every manual I have owned since my first car -- a 57 VW
convertible.




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