the who

'98 Accord DX, standard transmission with approx. 85k miles (150k km)

The car shudders as the clutch engages in 1st gear. I assume it's a
clutch problem. However, it's only noticable when going into 1st
gear. The problem gradually goes away as the car warms up.

Is it possibly something simple, or do I just need a new clutch?
Any particular part(s)?
Any idea how much $ I can expect to pay?

The problem started a couple of months ago and has slowly gotten
worse.

Any info. or help is appreciated.
Thanks.

'Curly Q. Links'

the who wrote:
>
> '98 Accord DX, standard transmission with approx. 85k miles (150k km)
>
> The car shudders as the clutch engages in 1st gear. I assume it's a
> clutch problem. However, it's only noticable when going into 1st
> gear. The problem gradually goes away as the car warms up.
>
> Is it possibly something simple, or do I just need a new clutch?
> Any particular part(s)?
> Any idea how much $ I can expect to pay?
>
> The problem started a couple of months ago and has slowly gotten
> worse.
>
> Any info. or help is appreciated.
> Thanks.

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Try driving in first gear at 'crawl speed' with the tach hitting the
same RPM you'd be going on the highway. If it starts to buck when it
hits that RPM, it's your TPS, which is worn out at that exact spot.
Picture a big volume control, like on your stereo. If you always listen
to music at the same 'level' you might eventually get a flat spot on the
control too. The TPS is just a potentiometer with three leads attached
to your throttle shaft.

Search this NG, or use google.com / groups to find out more if my guess
is correct.

'Curly'

TWW

<the who> wrote in message
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> '98 Accord DX, standard transmission with approx. 85k miles (150k km)
>
> The car shudders as the clutch engages in 1st gear. I assume it's a
> clutch problem. However, it's only noticable when going into 1st
> gear. The problem gradually goes away as the car warms up.
>
> Is it possibly something simple, or do I just need a new clutch?
> Any particular part(s)?
> Any idea how much $ I can expect to pay?
>
> The problem started a couple of months ago and has slowly gotten
> worse.
>
> Any info. or help is appreciated.
> Thanks.
Chances are that the plate has a hot spot on it or perhaps a little worn
which causes a chatter when starting off. Stick with it until it becomes
too annoying.

Michael Pardee

<the who> wrote in message
news:23mak1pst6evep0blfqr6vv832edffr8u1@4ax.com...
> '98 Accord DX, standard transmission with approx. 85k miles (150k km)
>
> The car shudders as the clutch engages in 1st gear. I assume it's a
> clutch problem. However, it's only noticable when going into 1st
> gear. The problem gradually goes away as the car warms up.
>
> Is it possibly something simple, or do I just need a new clutch?
> Any particular part(s)?
> Any idea how much $ I can expect to pay?
>
> The problem started a couple of months ago and has slowly gotten
> worse.
>
> Any info. or help is appreciated.
> Thanks.

One more thought, wacky as it sounds - try adding a bottle of injector
cleaner to the gas. Also, if it's been a while since the last tune-up now is
a good time to take care of that. I have had two cars, an underpowered older
Volvo and a Nissan 300ZX, that shuddered like a grabby clutch in first gear
only when they had engine weakness. Otherwise, there were no other symptoms.
Ignition in the Volvo, injectors in the Nissan.

Mike

'Curly Q. Links'

Michael Pardee wrote:

>
> One more thought, wacky as it sounds - try adding a bottle of injector
> cleaner to the gas. Also, if it's been a while since the last tune-up now is
> a good time to take care of that. I have had two cars, an underpowered older
> Volvo and a Nissan 300ZX, that shuddered like a grabby clutch in first gear
> only when they had engine weakness. Otherwise, there were no other symptoms.
> Ignition in the Volvo, injectors in the Nissan.
>
> Mike


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Good call, Mike . . misfire would show itself at low rpm.

'Curly'

N.E.Ohio Bob

the who wrote:
> '98 Accord DX, standard transmission with approx. 85k miles (150k km)
>
> The car shudders as the clutch engages in 1st gear. I assume it's a
> clutch problem. However, it's only noticable when going into 1st
> gear. The problem gradually goes away as the car warms up.
>
> Is it possibly something simple, or do I just need a new clutch?
> Any particular part(s)?
> Any idea how much $ I can expect to pay?
>
> The problem started a couple of months ago and has slowly gotten
> worse.
>
> Any info. or help is appreciated.
> Thanks.

If the clutch feels fine after it warms up, it sounds like the same
thing that was going on with my Accord. I THINK that some Honda clutches
get a film of water vapor on them after sitting overnight. Try warming
the clutch after you start the car by holding your foot on the brake,
and letting out the clutch until it just starts to engage for four or
five seconds. Do this a couple of times, and see if it feels better as
you drive away.
My clutch lasted 200,000 miles and had the slight shudder from the time
it was new till it wore out. bob