Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Well, how do you feel about starting to pay again every month? I lived in
the snow belt of NY state, and no question, ABS is wonderful. Can you do
without ABS, absolutely.

If your current car is running great, keep that extra $$$ in your pocket and
enjoy your Honda. If you feel the need, go buy snow tires. Say you get
VERY expensive snow tires, it'll cost $600. Still that is about a month and
a half car payment on your new-to-you Camry.

Keep the Accord and just be careful, as I know you already are.

Keith
'99 Accord EX-L V6





"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401130755.4bd68f14@posting.google.c om...
> Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
> more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
> bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
> now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.
>
> Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
> ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
> of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
> that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?
>
> I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
> mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
> of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
> that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
> always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
> and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
> sense.) :-)
>
> Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
> was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
> thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?
>
> TIA.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Well, how do you feel about starting to pay again every month? I lived in
the snow belt of NY state, and no question, ABS is wonderful. Can you do
without ABS, absolutely.

If your current car is running great, keep that extra $$$ in your pocket and
enjoy your Honda. If you feel the need, go buy snow tires. Say you get
VERY expensive snow tires, it'll cost $600. Still that is about a month and
a half car payment on your new-to-you Camry.

Keep the Accord and just be careful, as I know you already are.

Keith
'99 Accord EX-L V6





"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401130755.4bd68f14@posting.google.c om...
> Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
> more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
> bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
> now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.
>
> Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
> ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
> of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
> that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?
>
> I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
> mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
> of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
> that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
> always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
> and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
> sense.) :-)
>
> Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
> was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
> thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?
>
> TIA.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

On 13 Jan 2004 07:55:11 -0800, bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter)
wrote:
>Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
>more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
>bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
>now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.

I agree with the other statements, pretty much a toss-up generally
between Camry and Accord, probably two of the best transportation
modules ever built.

>Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
>ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
>of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
>that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?

Are they both 4 cylinder, both 6 cylinder, both automatics?

>I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
>mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
>of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
>that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
>always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
>and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
>sense.) :-)

Camry a little cushier. Accord a little sportier.

>Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
>was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
>thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?

I don't follow this, a private party is selling a 2002 car *they*
bought from the dealer? That wouldn't matter to you now, not really.

The idea of keeping your Accord and investing in snow tires is
probably good advice. Unless you were ready to trade your 2000 now in
any case.

J.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

On 13 Jan 2004 07:55:11 -0800, bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter)
wrote:
>Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
>more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
>bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
>now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.

I agree with the other statements, pretty much a toss-up generally
between Camry and Accord, probably two of the best transportation
modules ever built.

>Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
>ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
>of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
>that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?

Are they both 4 cylinder, both 6 cylinder, both automatics?

>I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
>mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
>of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
>that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
>always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
>and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
>sense.) :-)

Camry a little cushier. Accord a little sportier.

>Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
>was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
>thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?

I don't follow this, a private party is selling a 2002 car *they*
bought from the dealer? That wouldn't matter to you now, not really.

The idea of keeping your Accord and investing in snow tires is
probably good advice. Unless you were ready to trade your 2000 now in
any case.

J.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

On 13 Jan 2004 07:55:11 -0800, bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter)
wrote:
>Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
>more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
>bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
>now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.

I agree with the other statements, pretty much a toss-up generally
between Camry and Accord, probably two of the best transportation
modules ever built.

>Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
>ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
>of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
>that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?

Are they both 4 cylinder, both 6 cylinder, both automatics?

>I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
>mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
>of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
>that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
>always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
>and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
>sense.) :-)

Camry a little cushier. Accord a little sportier.

>Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
>was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
>thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?

I don't follow this, a private party is selling a 2002 car *they*
bought from the dealer? That wouldn't matter to you now, not really.

The idea of keeping your Accord and investing in snow tires is
probably good advice. Unless you were ready to trade your 2000 now in
any case.

J.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

On 13 Jan 2004 07:55:11 -0800, bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter)
wrote:
>Not to start a religious war but just wanted some feedback from people
>more experienced than me. I own a 2000 Accord that has no ABS. I
>bought it in FL and didn't feel the need for one. Needless to say,
>now that I am in MA, I regret that decision. A lot.

I agree with the other statements, pretty much a toss-up generally
between Camry and Accord, probably two of the best transportation
modules ever built.

>Recently I came across this ad for a used Toyota Camry 2002 LE with
>ABS selling for about 13k (private party). Now, granted the history
>of that car maybe suspect and my car's is known to me, but barring
>that aspect, is there anything else that I should keep in mind?

Are they both 4 cylinder, both 6 cylinder, both automatics?

>I can see all the goodies, like it has a premium JBL 8 speakers (as
>mentioned in the ad) sound, CD *and* cassette, 2002 vs 2000 model, and
>of course, ABS. But what about power and handling and stuff like
>that? How do people here compare a Camry LE to an Accord LX? (I
>always thought the Hondas had a little more snob value. So both me
>and my wife don't like the idea of downgrading our ride in that
>sense.) :-)

Camry a little cushier. Accord a little sportier.

>Also, if the car was bought from the dealer with 5000 miles on it (it
>was a "loaner" at the dealership) is that necessarily a very bad
>thing? Or should it just discount the book value by a grand or so?

I don't follow this, a private party is selling a 2002 car *they*
bought from the dealer? That wouldn't matter to you now, not really.

The idea of keeping your Accord and investing in snow tires is
probably good advice. Unless you were ready to trade your 2000 now in
any case.

J.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.

Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
classifieds for a private party sale.

But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
$9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
based on what it looks and feels like.)

So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.

Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.

Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
classifieds for a private party sale.

But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
$9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
based on what it looks and feels like.)

So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.

Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.

Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
classifieds for a private party sale.

But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
$9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
based on what it looks and feels like.)

So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.

Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.

Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
classifieds for a private party sale.

But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
$9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
based on what it looks and feels like.)

So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.

Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

I agree with the winter tire thing.
Living in New Brunswick with some nasty winter storms, I refuse to drive a
vehicle in the winter with anything but winter tires. Even brand new
"all-season" tires aren't comparable to good quality winter tires...

"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401140820.9513bdb@posting.google.co m...
> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.
>
> Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
> carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
> that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
> other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
> dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
> classifieds for a private party sale.
>
> But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
> tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
> today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
> thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
> $9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
> model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
> based on what it looks and feels like.)
>
> So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
> They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
> impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
> vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
> is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.
>
> Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

I agree with the winter tire thing.
Living in New Brunswick with some nasty winter storms, I refuse to drive a
vehicle in the winter with anything but winter tires. Even brand new
"all-season" tires aren't comparable to good quality winter tires...

"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401140820.9513bdb@posting.google.co m...
> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.
>
> Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
> carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
> that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
> other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
> dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
> classifieds for a private party sale.
>
> But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
> tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
> today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
> thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
> $9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
> model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
> based on what it looks and feels like.)
>
> So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
> They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
> impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
> vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
> is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.
>
> Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

I agree with the winter tire thing.
Living in New Brunswick with some nasty winter storms, I refuse to drive a
vehicle in the winter with anything but winter tires. Even brand new
"all-season" tires aren't comparable to good quality winter tires...

"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401140820.9513bdb@posting.google.co m...
> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.
>
> Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
> carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
> that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
> other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
> dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
> classifieds for a private party sale.
>
> But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
> tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
> today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
> thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
> $9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
> model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
> based on what it looks and feels like.)
>
> So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
> They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
> impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
> vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
> is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.
>
> Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

I agree with the winter tire thing.
Living in New Brunswick with some nasty winter storms, I refuse to drive a
vehicle in the winter with anything but winter tires. Even brand new
"all-season" tires aren't comparable to good quality winter tires...

"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401140820.9513bdb@posting.google.co m...
> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.
>
> Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
> carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
> that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
> other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
> dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
> classifieds for a private party sale.
>
> But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
> tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
> today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
> thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
> $9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
> model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
> based on what it looks and feels like.)
>
> So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
> They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
> impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
> vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
> is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.
>
> Best regards and stay warm.

Re: Comparing Accord to Camry
 

Bryan,

One last thing, if I remember correctly V6 Camrys run on premium gas, V6
Accords take normal. On the long run it will add up.
Oh yeah, I never liked the Camry's dashboard, the Honda's larger dials and
thinner pointers are a bit more pleasing, but it's subjective. But you'll
be looking at them for a while!

Pete


"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:614be1fb.0401140820.9513bdb@posting.google.co m...
> Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for the responses so far.
>
> Interesting point there by Keith J saying snow tires and driving
> carefully would serve me well in the lack of ABS. I never thought of
> that. Lack of ABS is the only reason I want to *replace* my car (most
> other annoyances can be fixed). Of course I didn't want to pay the
> dealership extra $$$$ for trade-in so my wife mentioned searching
> classifieds for a private party sale.
>
> But I would happily keep my Honda if I were to get ABS in it. If snow
> tires are near as safe, then by all means, I would start researching
> today. (Of course there are some more amenities in the Camry so I was
> thinking if I get the car for about $12,500 and sell mine for about
> $9,000, then that is about 3.5 grand for ABS, sound system and a newer
> model car. I have an appointment for this Saturday and I will decide
> based on what it looks and feels like.)
>
> So, snow tires would help me brake and even drive better in winter?
> They may not be close to ABS and 4WD but would they have a significant
> impact? I think they are definitely worth it because this is my only
> vehicle and my wife drives it too. And I am always worried when she
> is out driving in this winter with my 3 year old.
>
> Best regards and stay warm.