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Dont Taze Me, Bro! 06-22-2008 10:33 PM

Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Price per barrel:
>
> Oil $133
> Coca Cola $126
> Milk $163
> Perrier Water $300
> Budweiser $447
> Starbucks Latte $954
> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560


This has been posted in here before and let me say again, it is f-ing
retarded. Are you an apologist for big oil?

I am sorry but how much Ben and Jerry's do you need? How much Tabasco sauce
do you need? How much Perrier do you need? Furthermore, how the f__k do you
think that stuff gets to your location when you do decide to dabble in it?

Stop being a dumbass moron.



Augustus 06-22-2008 11:10 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
>
> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> Price per barrel:
>>
>> Oil $133
>> Coca Cola $126
>> Milk $163
>> Perrier Water $300
>> Budweiser $447
>> Starbucks Latte $954
>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560


I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.



Dont Taze Me, Bro! 06-22-2008 11:14 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
news:uuE7k.851$2G6.661@edtnps83...
>
> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
> news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
>>
>> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Price per barrel:
>>>
>>> Oil $133
>>> Coca Cola $126
>>> Milk $163
>>> Perrier Water $300
>>> Budweiser $447
>>> Starbucks Latte $954
>>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

>
> I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
> Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.


indeed, but maybe exxon will find a way to make a cocacola engine, and then
they can raise the cost 7 more dollars a barrel.



Ripcord 06-23-2008 01:36 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
>
> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> Price per barrel:
>>
>> Oil $133
>> Coca Cola $126
>> Milk $163
>> Perrier Water $300
>> Budweiser $447
>> Starbucks Latte $954
>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

>
> This has been posted in here before and let me say again, it is f-ing
> retarded. Are you an apologist for big oil?
>
> I am sorry but how much Ben and Jerry's do you need? How much Tabasco
> sauce do you need? How much Perrier do you need? Furthermore, how the f__k
> do you think that stuff gets to your location when you do decide to dabble
> in it?
>
> Stop being a dumbass moron.


If you want to look at it your way.
A barrel of each would last a person:
Oil 1 day(maybe)
Coca Cola 3 months
Milk 3 months
Perrier Water 3 weeks
Budweiser 2 months
Starbucks Latte 2 year
Ben & Jerry's 2 year
Tabasco Sauce 20 years
Chanel No 5 100 years(really don't use the stuff myself)
Now if a barrel of oil could last as long as any of these we would be doing
real good.
You dumbshit!

These are my estimation and not to be taken serious.



Ted Mittelstaedt 06-23-2008 02:26 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
news:xyE7k.2767$gE.1234@trnddc07...
>
> "Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
> news:uuE7k.851$2G6.661@edtnps83...
> >
> > "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
> > news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
> >>
> >> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> >>> Price per barrel:
> >>>
> >>> Oil $133
> >>> Coca Cola $126
> >>> Milk $163
> >>> Perrier Water $300
> >>> Budweiser $447
> >>> Starbucks Latte $954
> >>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
> >>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
> >>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

> >
> > I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
> > Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.

>
> indeed, but maybe exxon will find a way to make a cocacola engine,


You obviously never saw the ORIGINAL Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory or you would have remembered the Wonkamobile.

Ted



Mark A 06-23-2008 03:22 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 
"Ripcord" <kf@beth.net> wrote in message
news:oBG7k.10844$PZ6.5290@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> If you want to look at it your way.
> A barrel of each would last a person:
> Oil 1 day(maybe)
> Coca Cola 3 months
> Milk 3 months
> Perrier Water 3 weeks
> Budweiser 2 months
> Starbucks Latte 2 year
> Ben & Jerry's 2 year
> Tabasco Sauce 20 years
> Chanel No 5 100 years(really don't use the stuff myself)
> Now if a barrel of oil could last as long as any of these we would be
> doing real good.
> You dumbshit!
>
> These are my estimation and not to be taken serious.


There are 42 gallons in barrel of oil. Although only about half of that is
made into gasoline during the refining process, the remaining half is made
into other products that sell for about the same price as gasoline (on
average). So you can either assume that a barrel of oil does produce 42
gallons (they could do that if they wanted to), or the price per barrel
should be cut in half, since the other half of the barrel is made into other
valuable petroleum products.

Assuming we get 42 gallons per barrel and our car averages 25 miles per
gallon, that would be 1050 miles per barrel. That would last me more than a
month. You claim it only lasts 1 day.

Now who is the moron?



Dave 06-23-2008 03:56 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote

> There are 42 gallons in barrel of oil. Although only about half of that is
> made into gasoline during the refining process,.....



> Assuming we get 42 gallons per barrel...


> and our car averages 25 miles per
> gallon, that would be 1050 miles per barrel. That would last me more than a
> month. You claim it only lasts 1 day.
>
> Now who is the moron?



Er, you'd only have 21 gallons,
thereby only getting 525 miles/barrel

For someone living where I do who commutes
50 miles and back each day to work on the offshore
oil rigs, that would last them about 5 days :-)

Furthermore, the Ben and Jerrys would probably
only last a day or two at my place :-)



Brian Smith 06-23-2008 04:20 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:i8I7k.10929$3F5.1056@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> There are 42 gallons in barrel of oil. Although only about half of that is
> made into gasoline during the refining process, the remaining half is made
> into other products that sell for about the same price as gasoline (on
> average). So you can either assume that a barrel of oil does produce 42
> gallons (they could do that if they wanted to), or the price per barrel
> should be cut in half, since the other half of the barrel is made into
> other valuable petroleum products.
>
> Assuming we get 42 gallons per barrel and our car averages 25 miles per
> gallon, that would be 1050 miles per barrel. That would last me more than
> a month. You claim it only lasts 1 day.
>
> Now who is the moron?


I'd have to go with "you" as the answer to that question (no offence
meant <g>). You would only have 21 gallons of gas to use and depending on
each individual's requirements, that would last some longer and others far
less time. Personally, I drive an F-150 crewcab four by four and I manage to
squeeze just about 60 miles out of every $30.00 that I put in the fuel tank
(at today's price).



Mark A 06-23-2008 04:30 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
news:91J7k.866$2G6.26@edtnps83...
> I'd have to go with "you" as the answer to that question (no offence
> meant <g>). You would only have 21 gallons of gas to use and depending on
> each individual's requirements, that would last some longer and others far
> less time. Personally, I drive an F-150 crewcab four by four and I manage
> to squeeze just about 60 miles out of every $30.00 that I put in the fuel
> tank (at today's price).


No, they can make 42 gallons of gas from a barrel of oil if they wanted to.
Instead, they typically make about half that, but the remaining product
produced is jet fuel, heating oil , etc. If you assume that there are only
21 gallons of gas per barrel, then the cost per barrel should be cut in half
since the other products besides gasoline that are refined from the same
barrel are worth about the same as the gasoline (on average). I chose to
leave the cost of the barrel the same, and assume there are 42 gallons of
gas per barrel.

Some of you morons cannot read (no offense).



Cathy F. 06-23-2008 05:05 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Ripcord" <kf@beth.net> wrote in message
news:oBG7k.10844$PZ6.5290@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> "Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
> news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
>>
>> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Price per barrel:
>>>
>>> Oil $133
>>> Coca Cola $126
>>> Milk $163
>>> Perrier Water $300
>>> Budweiser $447
>>> Starbucks Latte $954
>>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

>>
>> This has been posted in here before and let me say again, it is f-ing
>> retarded. Are you an apologist for big oil?
>>
>> I am sorry but how much Ben and Jerry's do you need? How much Tabasco
>> sauce do you need? How much Perrier do you need? Furthermore, how the
>> f__k do you think that stuff gets to your location when you do decide to
>> dabble in it?
>>
>> Stop being a dumbass moron.

>
> If you want to look at it your way.
> A barrel of each would last a person:
> Oil 1 day(maybe)
> Coca Cola 3 months
> Milk 3 months
> Perrier Water 3 weeks
> Budweiser 2 months
> Starbucks Latte 2 year
> Ben & Jerry's 2 year
> Tabasco Sauce 20 years
> Chanel No 5 100 years(really don't use the stuff myself)


Chanel No. 19 is nicer, anyway. ;-)

Cathy


> Now if a barrel of oil could last as long as any of these we would be
> doing real good.
> You dumbshit!
>
> These are my estimation and not to be taken serious.


>
>




David Starr 06-23-2008 05:37 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:10:18 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote:

>
>"Dont Taze Me, Bro!" <DontTaze@MeBro.com> wrote in message
>news:PXD7k.972$9J.3@trnddc06...
>>
>> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:dCn7k.2478$1I.1673@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>>> Price per barrel:
>>>
>>> Oil $133
>>> Coca Cola $126
>>> Milk $163
>>> Perrier Water $300
>>> Budweiser $447
>>> Starbucks Latte $954
>>> Ben & Jerry's $1,609
>>> Tabasco Sauce $6,155
>>> Chanel No 5 $1,666,560

>
>I don't see the nations economy and infrastructure running on lattes and
>Coke. Or F-22's or M1 Abrams for that matter. Idiot.
>

Well, the Abrams will run on Chanel No 5, or jack Daniel's, for that matter.
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Brian Smith 06-23-2008 05:51 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:b8J7k.10954$3F5.5275@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
>
> No, they can make 42 gallons of gas from a barrel of oil if they wanted
> to. Instead, they typically make about half that, but the remaining
> product produced is jet fuel, heating oil , etc. If you assume that there
> are only 21 gallons of gas per barrel, then the cost per barrel should be
> cut in half since the other products besides gasoline that are refined
> from the same barrel are worth about the same as the gasoline (on
> average). I chose to leave the cost of the barrel the same, and assume
> there are 42 gallons of gas per barrel.
>
> Some of you morons cannot read (no offense).


Okay, I'll rephrase my response to you.

Depending on each individual's requirements, that would last some longer
and others far
less time. Personally, I drive an F-150 crewcab four by four and I manage
to squeeze just about 60 miles out of every $30.00 that I put in the fuel
tank (at today's price).

By the way, you still appear to be a moron.



Ray O 06-23-2008 11:18 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:b8J7k.10954$3F5.5275@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
> news:91J7k.866$2G6.26@edtnps83...
>> I'd have to go with "you" as the answer to that question (no offence
>> meant <g>). You would only have 21 gallons of gas to use and depending on
>> each individual's requirements, that would last some longer and others
>> far less time. Personally, I drive an F-150 crewcab four by four and I
>> manage to squeeze just about 60 miles out of every $30.00 that I put in
>> the fuel tank (at today's price).

>
> No, they can make 42 gallons of gas from a barrel of oil if they wanted
> to. Instead, they typically make about half that, but the remaining
> product produced is jet fuel, heating oil , etc. If you assume that there
> are only 21 gallons of gas per barrel, then the cost per barrel should be
> cut in half since the other products besides gasoline that are refined
> from the same barrel are worth about the same as the gasoline (on
> average). I chose to leave the cost of the barrel the same, and assume
> there are 42 gallons of gas per barrel.
>


I am not a chemist or expert on refining oil, but I don't think that it is
economically feasible to get 42 gallons of gas from 42 gallons of crude oil
because the crude oil has different components with different properties.

These articles seem to confirm this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery
http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining3.htm


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)



Mark A 06-23-2008 11:44 PM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:MZudnTyEW9gD9f3VnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I am not a chemist or expert on refining oil, but I don't think that it is
> economically feasible to get 42 gallons of gas from 42 gallons of crude
> oil because the crude oil has different components with different
> properties.
>
> These articles seem to confirm this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery
> http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining3.htm
>
>
> Ray O


I think you are missing the point. When a barrel (42 gallons) of oil is
refined, and it produces 21 gallons of gasoline, it also produces 21 gallons
of other refined hydrocarbons with a fairly substantial economic value. So
the economic value of the output of the refining process needs to be
distributed among the products produced.

So if you want to stick with 21 gallons of refined gasoline per barrel of
crude, then you need to cost the barrel of crude at about $68 (about one
half the current price of $136 per barrel). Otherwise you are assuming that
the raw material cost of the other refined products in a barrel of oil
(including jet fuel, fuel oil, etc) is zero (which might surprise a lot of
airlines and homeowners).



Ray O 06-24-2008 12:23 AM

Re: Which Cost More? Oil or ...
 

"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:_2_7k.11604$PZ6.9198@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:MZudnTyEW9gD9f3VnZ2dnUVZ_qDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> I am not a chemist or expert on refining oil, but I don't think that it
>> is economically feasible to get 42 gallons of gas from 42 gallons of
>> crude oil because the crude oil has different components with different
>> properties.
>>
>> These articles seem to confirm this:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery
>> http://science.howstuffworks.com/oil-refining3.htm
>>
>>
>> Ray O

>
> I think you are missing the point. When a barrel (42 gallons) of oil is
> refined, and it produces 21 gallons of gasoline, it also produces 21
> gallons of other refined hydrocarbons with a fairly substantial economic
> value. So the economic value of the output of the refining process needs
> to be distributed among the products produced.
>
> So if you want to stick with 21 gallons of refined gasoline per barrel of
> crude, then you need to cost the barrel of crude at about $68 (about one
> half the current price of $136 per barrel). Otherwise you are assuming
> that the raw material cost of the other refined products in a barrel of
> oil (including jet fuel, fuel oil, etc) is zero (which might surprise a
> lot of airlines and homeowners).

That explanation makes a lot more sense.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)




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