CR-V Fires
07-10-2004, 12:34 PM
#1
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CR-V Fires
Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
HONDA ENGINE FIRES
Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT FIRE.
IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD THAN
IN OTHER CARS.
I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN CHANGING
OIL.
NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
SPILL.
HONDA ENGINE FIRES
Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT FIRE.
IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD THAN
IN OTHER CARS.
I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN CHANGING
OIL.
NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
SPILL.
07-10-2004, 01:22 PM
#2
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Re: CR-V Fires
I think you have a more serious problem than your CR-V bursting into
flames. Your Caps Lock key is broken!
Cosmin
Nino.Nospam wrote:
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
flames. Your Caps Lock key is broken!
Cosmin
Nino.Nospam wrote:
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
07-10-2004, 04:09 PM
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Re: CR-V Fires
Yeah were all doomed because some tech did'nt install a oil filter properly!
Were DOOMED.........................
Tom
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
Were DOOMED.........................
Tom
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
07-10-2004, 04:13 PM
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Re: CR-V Fires
Nino.Nospam wrote:
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
<SNIP>
Since when is the first oil change on a CRV at 3,000 miles ? ?
Any car will burn if you slop oil on the exhaust pipe.
'Curly'
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
<SNIP>
Since when is the first oil change on a CRV at 3,000 miles ? ?
Any car will burn if you slop oil on the exhaust pipe.
'Curly'
07-10-2004, 08:08 PM
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Re: CR-V Fires
GM's and Fords burn up every day. Why don't they make the news?
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
07-10-2004, 09:28 PM
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Re: CR-V Fires
To think Scott Peterson could have just bought his wife a Honda CR-V?
"Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:B6adncZd7KB7GW3dRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> GM's and Fords burn up every day. Why don't they make the news?
>
>
>
>
> "Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> > Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> > HONDA ENGINE FIRES
> >
> > Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> > Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
> >
> >
> >
> > ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> > INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
> >
> >
> > THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
> >
> > THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
> SOME
> > CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
> >
> >
> > AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL
CHANGES,
> > ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
> >
> > THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> > LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
> FIRE.
> >
> > IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
> THAN
> > IN OTHER CARS.
> >
> > I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
> CHANGING
> > OIL.
> >
> >
> > NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> > SPILL.
> >
> >
>
>
"Honda Doc" <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:B6adncZd7KB7GW3dRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> GM's and Fords burn up every day. Why don't they make the news?
>
>
>
>
> "Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> > Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> > HONDA ENGINE FIRES
> >
> > Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> > Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
> >
> >
> >
> > ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> > INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
> >
> >
> > THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
> >
> > THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
> SOME
> > CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
> >
> >
> > AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL
CHANGES,
> > ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
> >
> > THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> > LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
> FIRE.
> >
> > IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
> THAN
> > IN OTHER CARS.
> >
> > I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
> CHANGING
> > OIL.
> >
> >
> > NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> > SPILL.
> >
> >
>
>
07-11-2004, 02:33 AM
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Re: CR-V Fires
We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a non-issue,
as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew that
you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
breaking down?
I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities tell
me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
dies.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bush "Iraq has tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction"
Honda "The CR-V fires have been caused by dumb factory-certified
technicians, that's the extent of it"
Ken Lay "I didn't know Enron was collapsing"
OJ Simpson "I'm 100% not guilty"
Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a non-issue,
as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew that
you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
breaking down?
I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities tell
me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
dies.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Bush "Iraq has tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction"
Honda "The CR-V fires have been caused by dumb factory-certified
technicians, that's the extent of it"
Ken Lay "I didn't know Enron was collapsing"
OJ Simpson "I'm 100% not guilty"
Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."
"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>
> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>
>
>
> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>
>
> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>
> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
SOME
> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>
>
> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>
> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
FIRE.
>
> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
THAN
> IN OTHER CARS.
>
> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
CHANGING
> OIL.
>
>
> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
> SPILL.
>
>
07-11-2004, 07:04 AM
#10
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Re: CR-V Fires
"John C" <goangels@*nospam*newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:ccqmv1013bm@news4.newsguy.com...
> We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
>
> So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
> following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a
non-issue,
> as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
> non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
> attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
> and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew
that
> you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
> breaking down?
> I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities
tell
> me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
> want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
> CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
> hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
> dies.
Or maybe, people that have a CR-V will make sure that the people they allow
to perform work on their vehicle's are qualified to use a screwdriver or
wrench. And, that they have a steady enough hand to pour liquids without
spilling them ;^)
--
Brian
If it weren't for STRESS I'd have no energy at all.
07-11-2004, 09:58 AM
#11
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Re: CR-V Fires
The *issue* is the location of the catalytic convertor in relation to the
oil filter.
Yes, there's a side issue here with sloppy workmanship taking place during
an oil change, but Honda is trying to push all the blame onto those
service shops performing oil changes and is trying to push the blame out
of their house for the design problem.
Fortunately I'm not a CR-V owner, but if I were, I'd be nervous as hell
after every oil change. That shouldn't have to be the case. Sloppy
workmanship resulting in an oil stain on my driveway or garage floor or
running the engine out of oil is one thing, burning up the car with me or
my family in it is an entirely different matter. One is a damage or
malfunction issue, the other is a personal safety matter. This buck stops
at the manufacturer, not at the service shop.
Since this is only affecting the Honda CR-V, I do not see how Honda can
point to the service shop when the cause stems directly from a design
issue.
I can see it now, CR-V owners requiring oil change shops all across the
land to begin signing affidavits certifying the accuracy of their work.
In article <ccqmv1013bm@news4.newsguy.com> "John C"
<goangels@*nospam*newsguy.com> writes:
>We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
>
>So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
>following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a non-issue,
>as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
>non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
>attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
>and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew that
>you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
>breaking down?
>I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities tell
>me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
>want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
>CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
>hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
>dies.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Bush "Iraq has tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction"
>Honda "The CR-V fires have been caused by dumb factory-certified
>technicians, that's the extent of it"
>Ken Lay "I didn't know Enron was collapsing"
>OJ Simpson "I'm 100% not guilty"
>Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
>> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
>> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>>
>> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
>> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>>
>>
>>
>> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
>> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>>
>>
>> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>>
>> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
>SOME
>> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>>
>>
>> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
>> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>>
>> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
>> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
>FIRE.
>>
>> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
>THAN
>> IN OTHER CARS.
>>
>> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
>CHANGING
>> OIL.
>>
>>
>> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
>> SPILL.
>>
>>
>
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oil filter.
Yes, there's a side issue here with sloppy workmanship taking place during
an oil change, but Honda is trying to push all the blame onto those
service shops performing oil changes and is trying to push the blame out
of their house for the design problem.
Fortunately I'm not a CR-V owner, but if I were, I'd be nervous as hell
after every oil change. That shouldn't have to be the case. Sloppy
workmanship resulting in an oil stain on my driveway or garage floor or
running the engine out of oil is one thing, burning up the car with me or
my family in it is an entirely different matter. One is a damage or
malfunction issue, the other is a personal safety matter. This buck stops
at the manufacturer, not at the service shop.
Since this is only affecting the Honda CR-V, I do not see how Honda can
point to the service shop when the cause stems directly from a design
issue.
I can see it now, CR-V owners requiring oil change shops all across the
land to begin signing affidavits certifying the accuracy of their work.
In article <ccqmv1013bm@news4.newsguy.com> "John C"
<goangels@*nospam*newsguy.com> writes:
>We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
>
>So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
>following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a non-issue,
>as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
>non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
>attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
>and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew that
>you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
>breaking down?
>I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities tell
>me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
>want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
>CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
>hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
>dies.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Bush "Iraq has tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction"
>Honda "The CR-V fires have been caused by dumb factory-certified
>technicians, that's the extent of it"
>Ken Lay "I didn't know Enron was collapsing"
>OJ Simpson "I'm 100% not guilty"
>Bill Clinton "I did not have sexual relations with that woman..."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Nino.Nospam" <Nino.Nospam@unsubscribe@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:tUUHc.63472$P7.9983@pd7tw3no...
>> Make sure you hire a competent technician to change your oil! See Below
>> HONDA ENGINE FIRES
>>
>> Reported and Web Produced by: John Matarese
>> Updated: 07/09/04 17:57:55
>>
>>
>>
>> ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IS UNDER
>> INVESTIGATION TONIGHT ... AFTER MORE THAN TWO DOZEN ENGINE FIRES.
>>
>>
>> THE GOVERNMENT IS INVESTIGATING FIRES IN CERTAIN HONDA SUV'S.
>>
>> THIS IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE FIRES ARE HAPPENING AFTER OIL CHANGES, IN
>SOME
>> CASES AFTER THE VERY FIRST OIL CHANGE AT 3,000 MILES!
>>
>>
>> AT LEAST 27 HONDA CR-V'S, 2003 - 2004, HAVE CAUGHT FIRE AFTER OIL CHANGES,
>> ACCORDING TO GOVERNMENT REPORTS.
>>
>> THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES OIL
>> LEAKED ONTO HOT EXHAUST SYSTEM DURING "SLOPPY" OIL CHANGES, AND CAUGHT
>FIRE.
>>
>> IT TURNS OUT THE OIL FILTER IS CLOSER TO THE CRV'S HOT ENGINE MANIFOLD
>THAN
>> IN OTHER CARS.
>>
>> I WOULD MAKE SURE YOUR TECHNICIAN KNOWS ABOUT THE RISK OF FIRE WHEN
>CHANGING
>> OIL.
>>
>>
>> NO RECALL AT THIS POINT...SO WHEN CHANGING THE OIL, TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO
>> SPILL.
>>
>>
>
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Re: CR-V Fires
On 7/11/2004 6:04 AM Brian Smith spake these words of knowledge:
> "John C" <goangels@*nospam*newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:ccqmv1013bm@news4.newsguy.com...
>> We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
>>
>> So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
>> following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a
> non-issue,
>> as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
>> non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
>> attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
>> and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew
> that
>> you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
>> breaking down?
>> I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities
> tell
>> me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
>> want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
>> CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
>> hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
>> dies.
>
> Or maybe, people that have a CR-V will make sure that the people they allow
> to perform work on their vehicle's are qualified to use a screwdriver or
> wrench. And, that they have a steady enough hand to pour liquids without
> spilling them ;^)
>
Well, so far at least thirty of them have not.
This is not a non-issue. If it actually happens to 1 in 1000 vehicles,
it's a catastrophe. Imagine the same thing happening at the same rate
to, say, GM pickup trucks.
That said, I doubt something shady is going on at Honda with respect to
this. I have heard 'recall' mentioned, but I wonder if the fix doesn't
entail re-engineering the block. I suppose they don't have a reasonable
answer yet.
Clearly, if the average user (or oil shop guy) doing what is usually
done to effect an oil change can engender this problem this often, there
is a design flaw.
I wouldn't sell my car; I'd make sure I changed the oil.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil...
> "John C" <goangels@*nospam*newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:ccqmv1013bm@news4.newsguy.com...
>> We're having a big discussion over this issue in the forums at Edmunds.com
>>
>> So far around 30 CR-Vs have charred up, and another 150 got disabled
>> following oil changes. You Honda loyalists are viewing this as a
> non-issue,
>> as it's only affecting 1 out of every 1000 CR-Vs. If this is indeed a
>> non-issue and is perfectly normal for a car...why have this attracted the
>> attention of the NHTSB and the media? Would you strap yourself, your wife
>> and your kids into a CR-V following a visit to Jiffy Lube, if you knew
> that
>> you had a 1/1000 chance of the car going in flames or all of a sudden
>> breaking down?
>> I've learned to not trust what corporations, politicians or celebrities
> tell
>> me at face value. Something shady is going on with Honda that they don't
>> want to reveal. As soon as I get some money I will be trading in my 2004
>> CR-V for a car that doesn't explode after an oil change. In any case
>> hopefully Honda will do the right thing and recall this car before anyone
>> dies.
>
> Or maybe, people that have a CR-V will make sure that the people they allow
> to perform work on their vehicle's are qualified to use a screwdriver or
> wrench. And, that they have a steady enough hand to pour liquids without
> spilling them ;^)
>
Well, so far at least thirty of them have not.
This is not a non-issue. If it actually happens to 1 in 1000 vehicles,
it's a catastrophe. Imagine the same thing happening at the same rate
to, say, GM pickup trucks.
That said, I doubt something shady is going on at Honda with respect to
this. I have heard 'recall' mentioned, but I wonder if the fix doesn't
entail re-engineering the block. I suppose they don't have a reasonable
answer yet.
Clearly, if the average user (or oil shop guy) doing what is usually
done to effect an oil change can engender this problem this often, there
is a design flaw.
I wouldn't sell my car; I'd make sure I changed the oil.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil...
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