Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

I am in the Greater Toronto Area.


On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:41:30 -0700, motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com>
wrote:

>damn wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
>> takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
>> great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
>> use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
>> there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
>> want to change the grade for the Pilot.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Hopeful. :)
>====================================
>
>You left out the most important factor. If you're in Northwest
>Territories or Tahiti?? (160,000 Km isn't 'high mileage'). 5w30 or even
>10w 30 might be fine depending on location.
>
>'Curly'

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

I am in the Greater Toronto Area.


On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:41:30 -0700, motsco_ <motsco_@interbaun.com>
wrote:

>damn wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
>> takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
>> great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
>> use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
>> there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
>> want to change the grade for the Pilot.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Hopeful. :)
>====================================
>
>You left out the most important factor. If you're in Northwest
>Territories or Tahiti?? (160,000 Km isn't 'high mileage'). 5w30 or even
>10w 30 might be fine depending on location.
>
>'Curly'

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

damn wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
> takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
> great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
> use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
> there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
> want to change the grade for the Pilot.
> Thanks in advance.
> Hopeful. :)

If you want one size fits all, then put 5W-30 in both of them.

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

On Feb 12, 1:54 am, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:00:12 -0500, damn wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
> > takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
> > great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
> > use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
> > there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
> > want to change the grade for the Pilot.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Hopeful. :)
>
> Personally, I would rather put the heavier oil in both. The reason they
> are requesting 5w30 is that the engine may need it. You are not going to
> hurt the pilot by putting 5w30 in it, so it seems more logical...

I agree re. oil weight. I put synthetic 5W-30 in all my cars.
Personally, I don't use those tea-cup sized Honda oil filters (whose
only design criteria is that they can be tightened/loosened by hand).
Purolator PurOne filters are larger and readily available on sale.

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

ACAR wrote:
> On Feb 12, 1:54 am, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 23:00:12 -0500, damn wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
>>> takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
>>> great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
>>> use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
>>> there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
>>> want to change the grade for the Pilot.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Hopeful. :)
>> Personally, I would rather put the heavier oil in both. The reason they
>> are requesting 5w30 is that the engine may need it. You are not going to
>> hurt the pilot by putting 5w30 in it, so it seems more logical...
>
> I agree re. oil weight. I put synthetic 5W-30 in all my cars.
> Personally, I don't use those tea-cup sized Honda oil filters (whose
> only design criteria is that they can be tightened/loosened by hand).
> Purolator PurOne filters are larger and readily available on sale.
>

cannister size doesn't matter. it's internal filter medium area and
quality that matters. there's a bunch of web sites dissecting filters
to expose their guts and measure filter medium area, but i don't recall
seeing any that test filter media. it's very important and a huge gap
in the opinion forming process we so often see.

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

If anything I would go the 5W-30 in both. The 5W-20 may be a little thin
for the CRV. The only affect I would see on the pilot is a slight loss of
mileage.

Just my 2 cents.

G-Man



"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Yh%Bh.223$4J4.217@trnddc01...
> damn wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> I have a 1998 CRV that takes 5w30 engine oil and a 2004 Pilot that
>> takes 5w20 engine oil, The CRV has high milage 160K kms. But runs
>> great. I do my own oil changes now and have bulk oil filters, as both
>> use the same filter. I would like to buy bulk oil and was wondering if
>> there would be any adverse effects if I put 5w20 in the CRV. I dont
>> want to change the grade for the Pilot.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Hopeful. :)
>
> If you want one size fits all, then put 5W-30 in both of them.

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

On Feb 19, 12:05 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>
> cannister size doesn't matter.

size doesn't matter? where have we heard that before?


it's internal filter medium area and
> quality that matters. there's a bunch of web sites dissecting filters
> to expose their guts and measure filter medium area, but i don't recall
> seeing any that test filter media.

bobistheoilguy.com has some data.
area and quality matter but only so much media can fit into a tea cup.


it's very important and a huge gap
> in the opinion forming process we so often see.- Hide quoted text -

please note how no other oil filters have shrunk recently; only Honda.
does Honda know something no one else knows or are they simply doing
something to make routine service easier (more profitable) for their
dealers?

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

On 3/13/07 4:08 PM, in article
1173820110.631014.97660@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.c om, "ACAR"
<getoutanpush@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Feb 19, 12:05 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>>
>> cannister size doesn't matter.
>
> size doesn't matter? where have we heard that before?
>
>
> it's internal filter medium area and
>> quality that matters. there's a bunch of web sites dissecting filters
>> to expose their guts and measure filter medium area, but i don't recall
>> seeing any that test filter media.
>
> bobistheoilguy.com has some data.
> area and quality matter but only so much media can fit into a tea cup.
>
>
> it's very important and a huge gap
>> in the opinion forming process we so often see.- Hide quoted text -
>
> please note how no other oil filters have shrunk recently; only Honda.
> does Honda know something no one else knows or are they simply doing
> something to make routine service easier (more profitable) for their
> dealers?
>
>

The other ones just shrunk sooner than Honda, at least Nissan did. My '91
Nissan (240sx) uses a can that the '63 Oldsmobile would have been happy
with. My '96 Nissan (i30) uses a filter the same size as the current Honda
filters. My '02 Nissan (Pathfinder) uses a filter that is actually smaller
than Honda's.

Re: CRV 5w30 VS Pilot 5W20 Help Please
 

ACAR wrote:
> On Feb 19, 12:05 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> cannister size doesn't matter.
>
> size doesn't matter? where have we heard that before?

keep it in context bud.

>
>
> it's internal filter medium area and
>> quality that matters. there's a bunch of web sites dissecting filters
>> to expose their guts and measure filter medium area, but i don't recall
>> seeing any that test filter media.
>
> bobistheoilguy.com has some data.
> area and quality matter but only so much media can fit into a tea cup.

that site doesn't address media quality, simply media area. if you
don't think that media quality is at least as important than media area,
or even more so, then you'll never understand the debate.

>
>
> it's very important and a huge gap
>> in the opinion forming process we so often see.- Hide quoted text -
>
> please note how no other oil filters have shrunk recently; only Honda.
> does Honda know something no one else knows or are they simply doing
> something to make routine service easier (more profitable) for their
> dealers?

dude, what part of "it's internal filter medium area and quality that
matters" don't you understand? the size of the can doesn't mean a thing.