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'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 01:42 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
frankg wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> >put the stuff in the car.

>
> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.


===============

frankg,

Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.

Your choice. :-(

'Curly'

===============

'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 01:42 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
frankg wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> >put the stuff in the car.

>
> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.


===============

frankg,

Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.

Your choice. :-(

'Curly'

===============

Grumpy au Contraire 01-02-2004 06:39 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 


"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> frankg wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> > >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> > >put the stuff in the car.

> >
> > Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============




Quite frankly, an auto manufacturer would have to be practicing idiocy
to step outside the bounds of internationally accepted specifications
for performance/fluids.

That said, it is my firm belief that the only beneficiary of using
marque labeled fluids is the dealer/manufacturer. In virtually every
case, far better aftermarket products exist.



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Grumpy au Contraire 01-02-2004 06:39 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 


"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> frankg wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> > >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> > >put the stuff in the car.

> >
> > Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============




Quite frankly, an auto manufacturer would have to be practicing idiocy
to step outside the bounds of internationally accepted specifications
for performance/fluids.

That said, it is my firm belief that the only beneficiary of using
marque labeled fluids is the dealer/manufacturer. In virtually every
case, far better aftermarket products exist.



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Grumpy au Contraire 01-02-2004 06:39 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 


"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> frankg wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> > >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> > >put the stuff in the car.

> >
> > Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============




Quite frankly, an auto manufacturer would have to be practicing idiocy
to step outside the bounds of internationally accepted specifications
for performance/fluids.

That said, it is my firm belief that the only beneficiary of using
marque labeled fluids is the dealer/manufacturer. In virtually every
case, far better aftermarket products exist.



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Grumpy au Contraire 01-02-2004 06:39 AM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 


"'Curly Q. Links'" wrote:
>
> frankg wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net> wrote:

> >
> > >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> > >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I ever
> > >put the stuff in the car.

> >
> > Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============




Quite frankly, an auto manufacturer would have to be practicing idiocy
to step outside the bounds of internationally accepted specifications
for performance/fluids.

That said, it is my firm belief that the only beneficiary of using
marque labeled fluids is the dealer/manufacturer. In virtually every
case, far better aftermarket products exist.



--
JT

Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4

Kevin Bottorff 01-02-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:

> frankg wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

wrote:
>>
>> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
>> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
>> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

ever
>> >put the stuff in the car.

>>
>> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
>> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
>> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============


Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB

--
ThunderSnake #9 Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

Kevin Bottorff 01-02-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:

> frankg wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

wrote:
>>
>> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
>> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
>> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

ever
>> >put the stuff in the car.

>>
>> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
>> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
>> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============


Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB

--
ThunderSnake #9 Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

Kevin Bottorff 01-02-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:

> frankg wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

wrote:
>>
>> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
>> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
>> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

ever
>> >put the stuff in the car.

>>
>> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
>> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
>> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============


Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB

--
ThunderSnake #9 Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

Kevin Bottorff 01-02-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:

> frankg wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

wrote:
>>
>> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
>> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
>> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

ever
>> >put the stuff in the car.

>>
>> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
>> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
>> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

>
> ===============
>
> frankg,
>
> Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
>
> Your choice. :-(
>
> 'Curly'
>
> ===============


Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB

--
ThunderSnake #9 Warn once, shoot twice
460 in the pkup, 460 on the stand for another pkup
and one in the shed for a fun project to yet be decided on

'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 05:23 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
>
> > frankg wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

> wrote:
> >>
> >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

> ever
> >> >put the stuff in the car.
> >>
> >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

> >
> > ===============
> >
> > frankg,
> >
> > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> >
> > Your choice. :-(
> >
> > 'Curly'
> >
> > ===============

>
> Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB


======================

Kevin,

You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:

1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
to an orange.

2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 05:23 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
>
> > frankg wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

> wrote:
> >>
> >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

> ever
> >> >put the stuff in the car.
> >>
> >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

> >
> > ===============
> >
> > frankg,
> >
> > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> >
> > Your choice. :-(
> >
> > 'Curly'
> >
> > ===============

>
> Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB


======================

Kevin,

You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:

1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
to an orange.

2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 05:23 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
>
> > frankg wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

> wrote:
> >>
> >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

> ever
> >> >put the stuff in the car.
> >>
> >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

> >
> > ===============
> >
> > frankg,
> >
> > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> >
> > Your choice. :-(
> >
> > 'Curly'
> >
> > ===============

>
> Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB


======================

Kevin,

You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:

1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
to an orange.

2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 01-02-2004 05:23 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
Kevin Bottorff wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
>
> > frankg wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

> wrote:
> >>
> >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use the
> >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

> ever
> >> >put the stuff in the car.
> >>
> >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.

> >
> > ===============
> >
> > frankg,
> >
> > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> >
> > Your choice. :-(
> >
> > 'Curly'
> >
> > ===============

>
> Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB


======================

Kevin,

You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:

1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
to an orange.

2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).

'Curly'

Aron 01-16-2004 04:44 PM

Re: Dexron III ATF question
 
If it's speced for DEXRON II/MERCON then shouldn't it operate it's full
operating period using DEXRONII/MERCON? DEXRON and MERCON are GM and FORD
specs yet they are supposedly equivalent. DEXRON III in the aftermarket is
labeled DEXRON III/MERCON. It meets the MERCON spec. and his car is speced
to run with MERCON (DEXRON II/MERCON). DEXRON III is supposed to meet the
requirements of DEXRON II according to manufacturers. Why spend $4.75 a
bottle for Honda fluid when you can get the fluid the Honda transmission is
speced for at $1.60 a bottle?


"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:3FF5EF5D.68A0DDDC@interbaun.com...
> Kevin Bottorff wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
> > news:3FF512D5.58A6BEFC@interbaun.com:
> >
> > > frankg wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:14:59 -0600, frankg <fg11@earthlink.net>

> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >An auto supply told me that my 91 Accord 4 cyl auto trans can use

the
> > >> >Dexron III ATF in place of the Dexron II that the manual calls for.
> > >> >Is the auto parts store correct? Just wanted to be sure before I

> > ever
> > >> >put the stuff in the car.
> > >>
> > >> Appreciate the feedback on this. I should add that the Dexron III is
> > >> actually labelled something like Dexron III Mercon (sp???) that the
> > >> auto supply guy said could be used in the 1991 Honda Accord.
> > >
> > > ===============
> > >
> > > frankg,
> > >
> > > Your Honda tranny is about as different from a Chrysler tranny as a
> > > Chrysler tranny is from a motorcycle gearbox. The Mercon (Dextron III)
> > > will work, but it won't work as well, or for as long.
> > >
> > > Your choice. :-(
> > >
> > > 'Curly'
> > >
> > > ===============

> >
> > Mercon is ford not chrysler. KB

>
> ======================
>
> Kevin,
>
> You're right, I chose the wrong example but my points are these:
>
> 1. The inside of a Honda automatic is about as different as an apple is
> to an orange.
>
> 2. Dextron III will work in a Honda, but EVERYBODY who's ever switched
> their Honda tranny BACK to real Honda fluid from DEXTRON has reported
> MUCH improved shifting (and lifespan, I expect).
>
> 'Curly'





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