Did I get Lied to?
 

I have a 1997 Honda Accord. I is the SE model (a 2 door with sun roof and a
non-vetec engine and custom stock brushed alum. wheels)
Since I'm at 190,000 miles, it was time to get a 3 rd set of tires. (Michelin
MX4V's)
When I picked up the car I noticed that they had balanced the wheels by putting
the big ugly weights on the outside! I knew they weren't like that before and
objected to that. After much discussion they consented to do an aesthetic
balance but warned that it would never be as accurate.
Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of a "static
balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic balance.
They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced from the
back. That got me to thinking. And I remembered that when I had the prior set
put on I stood in the shop and watched the man do a dynamic balance.
..
It sound like to me they tried to do a quick, job. Didn't want to redo the
balance work at all. The only a quick freebie static job.
..
I looked at dozens of cars with wheels similar to mine around the parking lot of
the mall after that. Some had weights in the front (mostly older cars) but 90%
did not (none of the brand new cars with stock tires and wheels).
..
Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back of the rim
only?

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:
<snip>.
> Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back of the rim
> only?

yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:
<snip>.
> Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back of the rim
> only?

yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:
<snip>.
> Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back of the rim
> only?

yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

jim beam wrote:
>
> LL wrote:
> <snip>.
> > Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back
> > of the rim only?
>
> yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
> rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

I'll second that (they're either lazy and lying to you or they're
incompetent). By the way, just so other folks can know not to go there,
where did you get your tires?

Eric

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

jim beam wrote:
>
> LL wrote:
> <snip>.
> > Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back
> > of the rim only?
>
> yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
> rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

I'll second that (they're either lazy and lying to you or they're
incompetent). By the way, just so other folks can know not to go there,
where did you get your tires?

Eric

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

jim beam wrote:
>
> LL wrote:
> <snip>.
> > Is is possible to do a credible balance job with weights on the back
> > of the rim only?
>
> yes. they're b.s.ing you. the weights are supposed to be stuck to the
> rim just inside the spokes and it balances the wheel no problem.

I'll second that (they're either lazy and lying to you or they're
incompetent). By the way, just so other folks can know not to go there,
where did you get your tires?

Eric

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

In article <VF_Xg.40918$FU7.35468@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
"LL" <LL@LL.com> wrote:

> When I picked up the car I noticed that they had balanced the wheels by
> putting
> the big ugly weights on the outside!

Yep.

Did you ask for weights on the inside? If not, you're likely to get
them on the outside.

Tain't no big deal. Let it go.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

In article <VF_Xg.40918$FU7.35468@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
"LL" <LL@LL.com> wrote:

> When I picked up the car I noticed that they had balanced the wheels by
> putting
> the big ugly weights on the outside!

Yep.

Did you ask for weights on the inside? If not, you're likely to get
them on the outside.

Tain't no big deal. Let it go.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

In article <VF_Xg.40918$FU7.35468@fe01.news.easynews.com>,
"LL" <LL@LL.com> wrote:

> When I picked up the car I noticed that they had balanced the wheels by
> putting
> the big ugly weights on the outside!

Yep.

Did you ask for weights on the inside? If not, you're likely to get
them on the outside.

Tain't no big deal. Let it go.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:

> Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of a "static
> balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic balance.
> They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced from the
> back.


They lied, pure and simple. A backside only dynamic balance is done
using adhesive stick on weights inside the rim but as close to the
outside as possible for one plane and all the way to the inside for the
other plane. This has been common aluminum wheel practice for decades
now.


John

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:

> Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of a "static
> balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic balance.
> They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced from the
> back.


They lied, pure and simple. A backside only dynamic balance is done
using adhesive stick on weights inside the rim but as close to the
outside as possible for one plane and all the way to the inside for the
other plane. This has been common aluminum wheel practice for decades
now.


John

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

LL wrote:

> Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of a "static
> balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic balance.
> They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced from the
> back.


They lied, pure and simple. A backside only dynamic balance is done
using adhesive stick on weights inside the rim but as close to the
outside as possible for one plane and all the way to the inside for the
other plane. This has been common aluminum wheel practice for decades
now.


John

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

John Horner wrote:
> LL wrote:
>
>> Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of
>> a "static
>> balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic
>> balance.
>> They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced
>> from the
>> back.
>
>
>
> They lied, pure and simple. A backside only dynamic balance is done
> using adhesive stick on weights inside the rim but as close to the
> outside as possible for one plane and all the way to the inside for the
> other plane. This has been common aluminum wheel practice for decades now.

Agreed - they lied, as Eric said, either because they're lazy or incompetent. If
they charged extra for the balancing, I'd just ask for that money back, and then
take it somewhere else.

Re: Did I get Lied to?
 

John Horner wrote:
> LL wrote:
>
>> Later as I looked at the new ticket I noticed that they had it down of
>> a "static
>> balance". I then objected to that and said I had paid for a dynamic
>> balance.
>> They said that it was not possible to do so if the tires were balanced
>> from the
>> back.
>
>
>
> They lied, pure and simple. A backside only dynamic balance is done
> using adhesive stick on weights inside the rim but as close to the
> outside as possible for one plane and all the way to the inside for the
> other plane. This has been common aluminum wheel practice for decades now.

Agreed - they lied, as Eric said, either because they're lazy or incompetent. If
they charged extra for the balancing, I'd just ask for that money back, and then
take it somewhere else.