diesel honds
 

Does anyone know anything about this ?
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...bmw_honda.html

Thanks,
Lynn

Re: diesel honds
 

> Does anyone know anything about this ?
> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...bmw_honda.html

I mean, why cant I buy a diesel Honda CR-V here in the USA like
this ? http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-te...-v-diesel.html

With all the gasoline shortages here in Houston, the stations have
plenty of diesel right now.

Thanks,
Lynn

Re: diesel honds
 

"Lynn McGuire" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
news:11jh06aj3rqu02a@corp.supernews.com:

>> Does anyone know anything about this ?
>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...bmw_honda.html
>
> I mean, why cant I buy a diesel Honda CR-V here in the USA like
> this ?
> http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-te...ns-2005/H/hond
> a-cr-v-diesel/cr-v-diesel.html



Because the federal EPA doesn't like diesels. And California's EPA has
placed an outright ban on new diesels.

Diesels' high NOx and high soot levels are what those two bodies primarily
object to.



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Re: diesel hondas
 

>> I mean, why cant I buy a diesel Honda CR-V here in the USA like
>> this ?
>> http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-te...-v-diesel.html
>
> Because the federal EPA doesn't like diesels. And California's EPA has
> placed an outright ban on new diesels.
>
> Diesels' high NOx and high soot levels are what those two bodies primarily
> object to.

The EPA and CARB are idiots ! The new Honda diesel 2.2L is an
amazing engine. I suspect that we will be able to buy the Honda
diesels here in Texas in the near future.

Lynn

Re: diesel hondas
 

"Lynn McGuire" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
news:11jleudac99kbba@corp.supernews.com:

>>> I mean, why cant I buy a diesel Honda CR-V here in the USA like
>>> this ?
>>> http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-te...ions-2005/H/ho
>>> nda-cr-v-diesel/cr-v-diesel.html
>>
>> Because the federal EPA doesn't like diesels. And California's EPA
>> has placed an outright ban on new diesels.
>>
>> Diesels' high NOx and high soot levels are what those two bodies
>> primarily object to.
>
> The EPA and CARB are idiots ! The new Honda diesel 2.2L is an
> amazing engine. I suspect that we will be able to buy the Honda
> diesels here in Texas in the near future.
>


Not likely. The *federal* EPA is in the way here, not Texas.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: diesel hondas
 

>> The EPA and CARB are idiots ! The new Honda diesel 2.2L is an
>> amazing engine. I suspect that we will be able to buy the Honda
>> diesels here in Texas in the near future.
>
> Not likely. The *federal* EPA is in the way here, not Texas.

Why not ? I can buy a new diesel VW sedan, diesel Mercedes sedan,
diesel Jeep Liberty, and several others here in Texas. Any new diesel
vehicles below 8500 GVW would just be 49 state vehicles until CARB
pulls their head out of their ***.

Lynn

Re: diesel hondas
 

>> The EPA and CARB are idiots ! The new Honda diesel 2.2L is an
>> amazing engine. I suspect that we will be able to buy the Honda
>> diesels here in Texas in the near future.
>
> Not likely. The *federal* EPA is in the way here, not Texas.

I forgot to mention. The hybrids do not work here in Texas unless the A/C
is driven from the electric motor like the Prius. We use the A/C here 9 to
10 months out of the year. So, a hydrid around here is a joke.

Lynn

Re: diesel hondas
 

"Lynn McGuire" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
news:11jlonbej10t402@corp.supernews.com:

>>> The EPA and CARB are idiots ! The new Honda diesel 2.2L is an
>>> amazing engine. I suspect that we will be able to buy the Honda
>>> diesels here in Texas in the near future.
>>
>> Not likely. The *federal* EPA is in the way here, not Texas.
>
> Why not ? I can buy a new diesel VW sedan, diesel Mercedes sedan,
> diesel Jeep Liberty, and several others here in Texas.



Oh, OK then. Maybe it's just because Honda doesn't think diesels will sell.
Most non-fleet passenger car diesel sales the world over are driven by
government tax policy that's used as covert social engineering. Canada and
the US do not make such a distinction, so there's little difference between
diesel and gasoline here.

My wife (and most other women I know) absolutely hates diesels on account
of the stink of the fuel. She'll never buy one. And she doesn't even do her
own fillups.

Chrysler brought out the diesel Jeep as a PR measure to make the enviros
happy. If the engine makes any money for them, it will be European sales
that do it, not American ones. European sales are driven by government tax
policy that taxes diesel far lower than gasoline.

Mercedes has been strongly associated with diesels since at least the
1950s, so it's a staple for them. Mercedes diesels are your basic everyday
taxi to most of the rest of the world, and they've sold millions upon
millions to fleet markets for decades.

As for VW, they've managed to turn their diesels into status symbols, Lord
knows how. Clatter clatter, stink stink. Not for me, thanks.



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TeGGeR®

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Re: diesel honds
 

On 27 Sep 2005 13:21:43 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>"Lynn McGuire" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in
>news:11jh06aj3rqu02a@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>> Does anyone know anything about this ?
>>> http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...bmw_honda.html
>>
>> I mean, why cant I buy a diesel Honda CR-V here in the USA like
>> this ?
>> http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-te...ns-2005/H/hond
>> a-cr-v-diesel/cr-v-diesel.html
>
>
>
>Because the federal EPA doesn't like diesels. And California's EPA has
>placed an outright ban on new diesels.
>
>Diesels' high NOx and high soot levels are what those two bodies primarily
>object to.

Yes, and like the millitary 'prepping for the next war by equipping to
fight the last, the EPA has its head up its ass, and regulates modern
diesel engines based on the 20-yo designs currently in use in the US,
and not promoting the low particulate, lower NOx emitting NEW designs
of diesel engine.

Maybe if engines were tuned properly, and not so they'd work better
with slushboxes, they'd find even better emissions as well.