Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

Hello all.

I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
bit dated.

I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
EX coupe V6Auto.

In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
rails.

I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
seat in that car didn't move when i drove.

To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.

At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
everyday.

If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:

> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.

Toyota has had some quality issues too. And Nissan is even worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:

> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.

Toyota has had some quality issues too. And Nissan is even worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:

> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.

Toyota has had some quality issues too. And Nissan is even worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:

> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.

Toyota has had some quality issues too. And Nissan is even worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

I had this in a 91 Taurus. It was replaced several times before I gave up.
My current Hondas don't do this. My chrysler 300M did slightly. Don't
remember whether my Avalon did. Basically I think it is a function of
plastic gears used in power seat mechanisms and slight slop that develops.


<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.
>
> I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
> Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
> seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
> at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
> seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
> hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
> the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
> rails.
>
> I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
> service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
> couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
> if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
> seat in that car didn't move when i drove.
>
> To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.
>
> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.
>
> If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
> know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.
>

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

I had this in a 91 Taurus. It was replaced several times before I gave up.
My current Hondas don't do this. My chrysler 300M did slightly. Don't
remember whether my Avalon did. Basically I think it is a function of
plastic gears used in power seat mechanisms and slight slop that develops.


<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.
>
> I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
> Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
> seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
> at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
> seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
> hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
> the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
> rails.
>
> I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
> service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
> couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
> if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
> seat in that car didn't move when i drove.
>
> To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.
>
> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.
>
> If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
> know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.
>

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

I had this in a 91 Taurus. It was replaced several times before I gave up.
My current Hondas don't do this. My chrysler 300M did slightly. Don't
remember whether my Avalon did. Basically I think it is a function of
plastic gears used in power seat mechanisms and slight slop that develops.


<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.
>
> I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
> Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
> seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
> at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
> seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
> hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
> the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
> rails.
>
> I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
> service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
> couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
> if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
> seat in that car didn't move when i drove.
>
> To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.
>
> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.
>
> If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
> know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.
>

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

I had this in a 91 Taurus. It was replaced several times before I gave up.
My current Hondas don't do this. My chrysler 300M did slightly. Don't
remember whether my Avalon did. Basically I think it is a function of
plastic gears used in power seat mechanisms and slight slop that develops.


<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.
>
> I have taken my Honda Accord to 3 different dealers. Mahway, NJ;
> Paramus, NJ; and Nanuet, NY. All three have told me that the drivers
> seat moving is "Normal Operation". Basically, the service technician
> at the Nanuet, NY service department told me that if he swaped out the
> seat rails, that the parts would cost $1,000 and labor would be 6
> hours. He also mentioned that the dealership would probably not recoup
> the money because Honda does not recognized the problem with the seat
> rails.
>
> I also had previously contacted Honda of America and talked to customer
> service representitive. He was very unhelpful, and told me that he
> couldn't find anything in his system on this subject. He also asked me
> if I "TEST DROVE" the car. I said, of course i test drove it, but the
> seat in that car didn't move when i drove.
>
> To me, this is not only a quality control issue, but a saftey issue.
>
> At this point, i will most likely be selling or trading in my Accord
> for a better built Toyota or Nissan. It's unfortunate that a car that
> would be fun to drive, becomes something I dread on getting into
> everyday.
>
> If anyone is willing to sign and send a peition together please let me
> know. I'd be willing to put a petition and a letter together.
>

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

It's just a little play in the track. What makes you think it is a safety
issue? Mine's been exactly the same for 168,000 miles and has not gotten
any worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

It's just a little play in the track. What makes you think it is a safety
issue? Mine's been exactly the same for 168,000 miles and has not gotten
any worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

It's just a little play in the track. What makes you think it is a safety
issue? Mine's been exactly the same for 168,000 miles and has not gotten
any worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda will NOT repair
 

<kirk.malajian@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161631064.961093.72000@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>
> In both cars I have experienced a problem with the drivers seat moving
> ever so slightly while stopping, starting, or turning. I traded in my
> 2003 Accord, because Honda did not want to fix the seat, so i figured,
> I'd get a new one and all would be fine. This was not the case.

It's just a little play in the track. What makes you think it is a safety
issue? Mine's been exactly the same for 168,000 miles and has not gotten
any worse.

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda willNOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>

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Here's a TSB about the Civic having a similar problem . . . . Shame to
throw out the whole car for such a simple problem . .

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/civic/x01-057e.pdf

'Curly'

Re: Drivers seat has play in it, and moves while driving. Honda willNOT repair
 

kirk.malajian@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> I've noticed some discussion on this topic, but it seems to have been a
> bit dated.
>
> I have a 2004 Accord EX coupe V6MT. I previously owned a 2003 Accord
> EX coupe V6Auto.
>

--------------------------------------

Here's a TSB about the Civic having a similar problem . . . . Shame to
throw out the whole car for such a simple problem . .

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/tsb/civic/x01-057e.pdf

'Curly'