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Dario Moreno 04-07-2006 11:08 AM

Driving with seized stabilizer
 
The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
Is it OK to drive like this?



'Curly Q. Links' 04-07-2006 01:16 PM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 
Dario Moreno wrote:
>
> The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> Is it OK to drive like this?


--------------------------

I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 04-07-2006 01:16 PM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 
Dario Moreno wrote:
>
> The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> Is it OK to drive like this?


--------------------------

I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.

'Curly'

Dario Moreno 04-08-2006 12:08 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> Dario Moreno wrote:
> >
> > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > Is it OK to drive like this?

>
> --------------------------
>
> I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
>
> 'Curly'


Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!



Dario Moreno 04-08-2006 12:08 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> Dario Moreno wrote:
> >
> > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > Is it OK to drive like this?

>
> --------------------------
>
> I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
>
> 'Curly'


Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!



Eric 04-08-2006 06:38 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 
Dario Moreno wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> > Dario Moreno wrote:
> > >
> > > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > > Is it OK to drive like this?

> >
> > --------------------------
> >
> > I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> > absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
> >
> > 'Curly'

>
> Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
> I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
> to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!


If I remember correctly, the '92 Accord has two balance shafts. Did both
seize or just one? Did your mechanic completely remove the belt or did he
find a shorter one to drive the other balance shaft? Did your mechanic
discover why it seized? I would be worried about possible oil starvation
problems popping up elsewhere in the engine at some point in the future.
One thing to check would be to pull the oil pan and make sure that the oil
pump pick-up screen was not clogged up.
On another note, driving with the engine shaking around more than normal
will accelerate the wear on the engine mounts and perhaps some of the hoses
since they'll be flexing more than normal.

Eric

Eric 04-08-2006 06:38 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 
Dario Moreno wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> > Dario Moreno wrote:
> > >
> > > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > > Is it OK to drive like this?

> >
> > --------------------------
> >
> > I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> > absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
> >
> > 'Curly'

>
> Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
> I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
> to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!


If I remember correctly, the '92 Accord has two balance shafts. Did both
seize or just one? Did your mechanic completely remove the belt or did he
find a shorter one to drive the other balance shaft? Did your mechanic
discover why it seized? I would be worried about possible oil starvation
problems popping up elsewhere in the engine at some point in the future.
One thing to check would be to pull the oil pan and make sure that the oil
pump pick-up screen was not clogged up.
On another note, driving with the engine shaking around more than normal
will accelerate the wear on the engine mounts and perhaps some of the hoses
since they'll be flexing more than normal.

Eric

Dario Moreno 04-10-2006 11:22 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4437928B.1B4EF98B@spam.now...
> Dario Moreno wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> > > Dario Moreno wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > > > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > > > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > > > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > > > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > > > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > > > Is it OK to drive like this?
> > >
> > > --------------------------
> > >
> > > I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> > > absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
> > >
> > > 'Curly'

> >
> > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
> > I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
> > to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!

>
> If I remember correctly, the '92 Accord has two balance shafts. Did both
> seize or just one? Did your mechanic completely remove the belt or did he
> find a shorter one to drive the other balance shaft? Did your mechanic
> discover why it seized? I would be worried about possible oil starvation
> problems popping up elsewhere in the engine at some point in the future.
> One thing to check would be to pull the oil pan and make sure that the oil
> pump pick-up screen was not clogged up.
> On another note, driving with the engine shaking around more than normal
> will accelerate the wear on the engine mounts and perhaps some of the hoses
> since they'll be flexing more than normal.
>
> Eric


You are right it has two balance shafts. I did not go to the route of diagnosing
further whether both seized or only one and why. He did not remove the belt but
removed a gear that engages the shaft(s). I am not sure whether he disabled
both.
He quoted me up to $1200 if he removed the oil pan and other stuff to
access the shaft. He said if it were the bearings it is cheap to fix but if the
shaft(s) were bent than he suggested to put a new engine for $1400 plus labor.
I like this car but there is some rust on it and I do not feel like to revive it
..
If I can drive it like this for another 2 years hopefully I will be able to
buy a new one by then. You have a good point about any debris in the oil
pump pick-up screen. If it got clogged for some reason it explains my
unexplained
oil pressure light failure a month ago that started these problems. My mechanic
did not mention this as a possible cause at the time.




Dario Moreno 04-10-2006 11:22 AM

Re: Driving with seized stabilizer
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4437928B.1B4EF98B@spam.now...
> Dario Moreno wrote:
> >
> > "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> > news:44369E58.A59B0A73@interbaun.com...
> > > Dario Moreno wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The stabilizer in the engine (192K kms) of my 92 Accord
> > > > seized after an unexplained oil pressure failure. It was rather
> > > > costly to get the engine apart to find out the cause of the
> > > > problem thus my mechanic removed the gear that engages
> > > > the stabilizer and put a new belt. The old one was stripped
> > > > badly. The engine is louder and feels a bit rough.
> > > > Is it OK to drive like this?
> > >
> > > --------------------------
> > >
> > > I think you're taking about the balance shaft, right? It's not
> > > absolutely necessary, as far as I can tell.
> > >
> > > 'Curly'

> >
> > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was referring to the balance shaft.
> > I forgot what it was called but knew that it helped the engine not
> > to vibrate thus I called it stabilizer !!!

>
> If I remember correctly, the '92 Accord has two balance shafts. Did both
> seize or just one? Did your mechanic completely remove the belt or did he
> find a shorter one to drive the other balance shaft? Did your mechanic
> discover why it seized? I would be worried about possible oil starvation
> problems popping up elsewhere in the engine at some point in the future.
> One thing to check would be to pull the oil pan and make sure that the oil
> pump pick-up screen was not clogged up.
> On another note, driving with the engine shaking around more than normal
> will accelerate the wear on the engine mounts and perhaps some of the hoses
> since they'll be flexing more than normal.
>
> Eric


You are right it has two balance shafts. I did not go to the route of diagnosing
further whether both seized or only one and why. He did not remove the belt but
removed a gear that engages the shaft(s). I am not sure whether he disabled
both.
He quoted me up to $1200 if he removed the oil pan and other stuff to
access the shaft. He said if it were the bearings it is cheap to fix but if the
shaft(s) were bent than he suggested to put a new engine for $1400 plus labor.
I like this car but there is some rust on it and I do not feel like to revive it
..
If I can drive it like this for another 2 years hopefully I will be able to
buy a new one by then. You have a good point about any debris in the oil
pump pick-up screen. If it got clogged for some reason it explains my
unexplained
oil pressure light failure a month ago that started these problems. My mechanic
did not mention this as a possible cause at the time.





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