drowning...
 

hey folks..

I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
water that the ground is squishy.

upsetting...

Anyways.. I vac'd out the water from the spare tire compartment and did
the best I could with the driver/passenger cabin space (in front and
behind the seat). Also under the rear passenger seat.

So I have to:

a) figure out a way to rip out all the carpets and siding and attempt
to find the leak. Attempt to dry all sponge and carpet.
b) pay someone to do this.

for a)

First of all, I think that I can do a, however, I'm having problems
removing the rear passenger seating and need to figure that out.. if
someone could help me out there. Removing the seats souldn't be a
problem and if I have to remove the carpet I'm thinking that if I
remove the side floor panels I'll be able to get to sides of the
carpet.

for b)

Where would I take this and how much do you figure that I would be
paying for this?

Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
nasty.

thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.

Eric

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.
>
> upsetting...
>
> Anyways.. I vac'd out the water from the spare tire compartment and did
> the best I could with the driver/passenger cabin space (in front and
> behind the seat). Also under the rear passenger seat.
>
> So I have to:
>
> a) figure out a way to rip out all the carpets and siding and attempt
> to find the leak. Attempt to dry all sponge and carpet.
> b) pay someone to do this.
>
> for a)
>
> First of all, I think that I can do a, however, I'm having problems
> removing the rear passenger seating and need to figure that out.. if
> someone could help me out there. Removing the seats souldn't be a
> problem and if I have to remove the carpet I'm thinking that if I
> remove the side floor panels I'll be able to get to sides of the
> carpet.
>
> for b)
>
> Where would I take this and how much do you figure that I would be
> paying for this?
>
> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Eric

--------------------------------------

There's a trick to getting the seat out. tegger knows. Try searching, or
contact tegger at www.tegger.com

If it's coming in at the front end of the vehicle, it may be similar to
a (fairly common) problem that happens on the first generation Cr-V:

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ight=cowl+leak

'Curly'

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.
>
> upsetting...
>
> Anyways.. I vac'd out the water from the spare tire compartment and did
> the best I could with the driver/passenger cabin space (in front and
> behind the seat). Also under the rear passenger seat.
>
> So I have to:
>
> a) figure out a way to rip out all the carpets and siding and attempt
> to find the leak. Attempt to dry all sponge and carpet.
> b) pay someone to do this.
>
> for a)
>
> First of all, I think that I can do a, however, I'm having problems
> removing the rear passenger seating and need to figure that out.. if
> someone could help me out there. Removing the seats souldn't be a
> problem and if I have to remove the carpet I'm thinking that if I
> remove the side floor panels I'll be able to get to sides of the
> carpet.
>
> for b)
>
> Where would I take this and how much do you figure that I would be
> paying for this?
>
> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Eric

--------------------------------------

There's a trick to getting the seat out. tegger knows. Try searching, or
contact tegger at www.tegger.com

If it's coming in at the front end of the vehicle, it may be similar to
a (fairly common) problem that happens on the first generation Cr-V:

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ight=cowl+leak

'Curly'

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.
>
> upsetting...
>
> Anyways.. I vac'd out the water from the spare tire compartment and did
> the best I could with the driver/passenger cabin space (in front and
> behind the seat). Also under the rear passenger seat.
>
> So I have to:
>
> a) figure out a way to rip out all the carpets and siding and attempt
> to find the leak. Attempt to dry all sponge and carpet.
> b) pay someone to do this.
>
> for a)
>
> First of all, I think that I can do a, however, I'm having problems
> removing the rear passenger seating and need to figure that out.. if
> someone could help me out there. Removing the seats souldn't be a
> problem and if I have to remove the carpet I'm thinking that if I
> remove the side floor panels I'll be able to get to sides of the
> carpet.
>
> for b)
>
> Where would I take this and how much do you figure that I would be
> paying for this?
>
> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Eric

--------------------------------------

There's a trick to getting the seat out. tegger knows. Try searching, or
contact tegger at www.tegger.com

If it's coming in at the front end of the vehicle, it may be similar to
a (fairly common) problem that happens on the first generation Cr-V:

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ight=cowl+leak

'Curly'

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.
>
> upsetting...
>
> Anyways.. I vac'd out the water from the spare tire compartment and did
> the best I could with the driver/passenger cabin space (in front and
> behind the seat). Also under the rear passenger seat.
>
> So I have to:
>
> a) figure out a way to rip out all the carpets and siding and attempt
> to find the leak. Attempt to dry all sponge and carpet.
> b) pay someone to do this.
>
> for a)
>
> First of all, I think that I can do a, however, I'm having problems
> removing the rear passenger seating and need to figure that out.. if
> someone could help me out there. Removing the seats souldn't be a
> problem and if I have to remove the carpet I'm thinking that if I
> remove the side floor panels I'll be able to get to sides of the
> carpet.
>
> for b)
>
> Where would I take this and how much do you figure that I would be
> paying for this?
>
> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Eric

--------------------------------------

There's a trick to getting the seat out. tegger knows. Try searching, or
contact tegger at www.tegger.com

If it's coming in at the front end of the vehicle, it may be similar to
a (fairly common) problem that happens on the first generation Cr-V:

http://www.hondasuv.com/stg/viewtopi...ight=cowl+leak

'Curly'

Re: drowning...
 

"Dolph" <ekinskofer@gmail.com> wrote in news:1163043939.378529.5590
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc.



What is it with all these posters posting independent, identical messages
instead of properly crossposting?

See my reply to this identical message in rec.autos.makers.honda.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: drowning...
 

"Dolph" <ekinskofer@gmail.com> wrote in news:1163043939.378529.5590
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc.



What is it with all these posters posting independent, identical messages
instead of properly crossposting?

See my reply to this identical message in rec.autos.makers.honda.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: drowning...
 

"Dolph" <ekinskofer@gmail.com> wrote in news:1163043939.378529.5590
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc.



What is it with all these posters posting independent, identical messages
instead of properly crossposting?

See my reply to this identical message in rec.autos.makers.honda.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: drowning...
 

"Dolph" <ekinskofer@gmail.com> wrote in news:1163043939.378529.5590
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc.



What is it with all these posters posting independent, identical messages
instead of properly crossposting?

See my reply to this identical message in rec.autos.makers.honda.


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.

WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)

(Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)

> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.

Brutal.

Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.

Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
place for water to get in).

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.

WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)

(Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)

> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.

Brutal.

Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.

Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
place for water to get in).

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.

WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)

(Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)

> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.

Brutal.

Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.

Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
place for water to get in).

Re: drowning...
 

Dolph wrote:
> hey folks..
>
> I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> water that the ground is squishy.

WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)

(Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)

> Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> nasty.
>
> thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.

Brutal.

Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.

Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
place for water to get in).

Re: drowning...
 

Matt Ion wrote:
> Dolph wrote:
> > hey folks..
> >
> > I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> > decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> > over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> > entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> > spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> > water that the ground is squishy.
>
> WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)
>
> (Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)
>
> > Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> > smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> > nasty.
> >
> > thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Brutal.
>
> Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
> the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
> spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
> back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
> probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.
>
> Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
> but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
> sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
> place for water to get in).

exactly what I was thinking.. your right about the braking.. that's
what's happening.. the rear of the seat is wet and the particle board
was not.. I'm going to attempt to get the car dismantled and dry and
then get my wife to hose the car and see if I can see where the leak is
coming in. The car was parked on a slight upward slope.. so that might
be something to think about. Hopefully I can sort this out.

I'm thinking of air drying and then perhaps spraying with some
deoderizer and perhaps some other cleaners.

One thing that makes me curious is that the car had a bumper and side
panel replaced last winter.. I think this might be related.

Eric

Re: drowning...
 

Matt Ion wrote:
> Dolph wrote:
> > hey folks..
> >
> > I live in wet vancouver, bc. My wifes car, a 98' civic dx hatchback,
> > decided that somewhere on the body to allow a lot of water in. Probably
> > over a period of 1.5 weeks of heavy rain, there was enough water in the
> > entire car to fill the spare tire compartment up to halfway of the
> > spare tire and flood the driver and passenger cabin space with enough
> > water that the ground is squishy.
>
> WHAT??? It never rains in Vancouver! It's LIQUID SUNSHINE! :)
>
> (Speaking from a relatively-dry Pitt Meadows here... ;)
>
> > Regardless.. I don't think that I'll ever be able to get the mildew
> > smell out of the car now.. smells like old hockey equipment.. pretty
> > nasty.
> >
> > thoughts/comments? thanks in advance.
>
> Brutal.
>
> Well from experience with my last Accord, I can tell you the most likely place
> the water is coming in is through the hatch area - it trickles down into the
> spare tire well, accumulates there, and then sloshes forward and down under the
> back seats and onto the floor every time you brake. If you check, you'll
> probably find the back seats are pretty wet too.
>
> Can't offer any real suggestions of how to dry it out or get rid of the smell,
> but as for finding the leak, start with the seal around the hatch, and also make
> sure the tail light fixtures are in tight and well-sealed (the other common
> place for water to get in).

exactly what I was thinking.. your right about the braking.. that's
what's happening.. the rear of the seat is wet and the particle board
was not.. I'm going to attempt to get the car dismantled and dry and
then get my wife to hose the car and see if I can see where the leak is
coming in. The car was parked on a slight upward slope.. so that might
be something to think about. Hopefully I can sort this out.

I'm thinking of air drying and then perhaps spraying with some
deoderizer and perhaps some other cleaners.

One thing that makes me curious is that the car had a bumper and side
panel replaced last winter.. I think this might be related.

Eric