emergent help needed
 

My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and started
the engine.
Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
starter.

However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
stop.
I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
again.

I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able to
off until the engine started.)

Can anyone know what to do now ?

Thanks

-Gary

Re: emergent help needed
 

I put back distributor cap, then the battery cable, the engine was started.
Once I stopped the engine, the starter still kept rotating. I have to pull
out battery cable to stop it.

Is it possible the starter was defected ?
Accord electric drawing shows there is a "pull-in" coil and a "hold-in" coil
within the starter unit.
Is it possible the defective coil put the switch into the wrong position ?

Any way to fix it ?

Thanks for any advice.

-Gary

"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I put back distributor cap, then the battery cable, the engine was started.
Once I stopped the engine, the starter still kept rotating. I have to pull
out battery cable to stop it.

Is it possible the starter was defected ?
Accord electric drawing shows there is a "pull-in" coil and a "hold-in" coil
within the starter unit.
Is it possible the defective coil put the switch into the wrong position ?

Any way to fix it ?

Thanks for any advice.

-Gary

"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I put back distributor cap, then the battery cable, the engine was started.
Once I stopped the engine, the starter still kept rotating. I have to pull
out battery cable to stop it.

Is it possible the starter was defected ?
Accord electric drawing shows there is a "pull-in" coil and a "hold-in" coil
within the starter unit.
Is it possible the defective coil put the switch into the wrong position ?

Any way to fix it ?

Thanks for any advice.

-Gary

"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I put back distributor cap, then the battery cable, the engine was started.
Once I stopped the engine, the starter still kept rotating. I have to pull
out battery cable to stop it.

Is it possible the starter was defected ?
Accord electric drawing shows there is a "pull-in" coil and a "hold-in" coil
within the starter unit.
Is it possible the defective coil put the switch into the wrong position ?

Any way to fix it ?

Thanks for any advice.

-Gary

"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I am considering the following possibilities:
1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
when it should.
2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
when it should.

Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
start.

Any comment will be appreciated.

-Gary


"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I am considering the following possibilities:
1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
when it should.
2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
when it should.

Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
start.

Any comment will be appreciated.

-Gary


"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I am considering the following possibilities:
1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
when it should.
2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
when it should.

Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
start.

Any comment will be appreciated.

-Gary


"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

I am considering the following possibilities:
1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
when it should.
2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
when it should.

Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
start.

Any comment will be appreciated.

-Gary


"Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
started
> the engine.
> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
> starter.
>
> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
> stop.
> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
> again.
>
> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
to
> off until the engine started.)
>
> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Gary
>
>

Re: emergent help needed
 

On 2/13/04 1:02 AM, in article 102oto7chbb5k75@corp.supernews.com, "Gary
Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote:

> I am considering the following possibilities:
> 1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
> when it should.
> 2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
> when it should.
>
> Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
> start.
>
> Any comment will be appreciated.
>
> -Gary
>
>
> "Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
>> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
>> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
> started
>> the engine.
>> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
>> starter.
>>
>> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
>> stop.
>> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
>> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
>> again.
>>
>> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
> to
>> off until the engine started.)
>>
>> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
>
>

I had this experience with a VW Rabbit once. High water got in to the
flywheel case through the drain hole on the bottom and was circulated to the
starter gear by the spinning flywheel. After about one night, a thin sheen
of rust developed on the piston that is moved in and out to connect the
starter to the flywheel when you start and move it back away otherwise.

The first time I started the car, the piston stuck partway out and kept the
starter spinning until I disconnected the battery. It sounds like you are
having a similar experience. Unless you get lucky and the throw-out piston
is a physically separate part that can be bought, the fix is going to be a
new starter.

Meanwhile, if you can get to it, smacking the side of the starter with a
broom stick might jar it enough to make it disengage and stop.

Re: emergent help needed
 

On 2/13/04 1:02 AM, in article 102oto7chbb5k75@corp.supernews.com, "Gary
Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote:

> I am considering the following possibilities:
> 1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
> when it should.
> 2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
> when it should.
>
> Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
> start.
>
> Any comment will be appreciated.
>
> -Gary
>
>
> "Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
>> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
>> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
> started
>> the engine.
>> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
>> starter.
>>
>> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
>> stop.
>> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
>> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
>> again.
>>
>> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
> to
>> off until the engine started.)
>>
>> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
>
>

I had this experience with a VW Rabbit once. High water got in to the
flywheel case through the drain hole on the bottom and was circulated to the
starter gear by the spinning flywheel. After about one night, a thin sheen
of rust developed on the piston that is moved in and out to connect the
starter to the flywheel when you start and move it back away otherwise.

The first time I started the car, the piston stuck partway out and kept the
starter spinning until I disconnected the battery. It sounds like you are
having a similar experience. Unless you get lucky and the throw-out piston
is a physically separate part that can be bought, the fix is going to be a
new starter.

Meanwhile, if you can get to it, smacking the side of the starter with a
broom stick might jar it enough to make it disengage and stop.

Re: emergent help needed
 

On 2/13/04 1:02 AM, in article 102oto7chbb5k75@corp.supernews.com, "Gary
Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote:

> I am considering the following possibilities:
> 1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
> when it should.
> 2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
> when it should.
>
> Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
> start.
>
> Any comment will be appreciated.
>
> -Gary
>
>
> "Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
>> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
>> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
> started
>> the engine.
>> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
>> starter.
>>
>> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
>> stop.
>> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
>> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
>> again.
>>
>> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
> to
>> off until the engine started.)
>>
>> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
>
>

I had this experience with a VW Rabbit once. High water got in to the
flywheel case through the drain hole on the bottom and was circulated to the
starter gear by the spinning flywheel. After about one night, a thin sheen
of rust developed on the piston that is moved in and out to connect the
starter to the flywheel when you start and move it back away otherwise.

The first time I started the car, the piston stuck partway out and kept the
starter spinning until I disconnected the battery. It sounds like you are
having a similar experience. Unless you get lucky and the throw-out piston
is a physically separate part that can be bought, the fix is going to be a
new starter.

Meanwhile, if you can get to it, smacking the side of the starter with a
broom stick might jar it enough to make it disengage and stop.

Re: emergent help needed
 

On 2/13/04 1:02 AM, in article 102oto7chbb5k75@corp.supernews.com, "Gary
Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote:

> I am considering the following possibilities:
> 1). defected start cut relay, which does not cut off start motor circuit
> when it should.
> 2). detected start coil or switch, which does not break the motor circuit
> when it should.
>
> Actually the relay problem may also explain the original problem: hard to
> start.
>
> Any comment will be appreciated.
>
> -Gary
>
>
> "Gary Li" <garyli@xprt.net> wrote in message
> news:102olmt3unjik03@corp.supernews.com...
>> My 95 Accord is hard to be started recently.
>> In order to identify the reason, I pull out of distributor cap, and
> started
>> the engine.
>> Most of times the rotor does not turn, so I think it might be a problem in
>> starter.
>>
>> However, in one of the startings, the rotor started to rotate, and never
>> stop.
>> I pull out of battery cable to stop the rotor.
>> However, when I tried to put on battery cable, the rotor started to rotate
>> again.
>>
>> I think a relay may not be in the right position (the replay may be able
> to
>> off until the engine started.)
>>
>> Can anyone know what to do now ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Gary
>>
>>
>
>

I had this experience with a VW Rabbit once. High water got in to the
flywheel case through the drain hole on the bottom and was circulated to the
starter gear by the spinning flywheel. After about one night, a thin sheen
of rust developed on the piston that is moved in and out to connect the
starter to the flywheel when you start and move it back away otherwise.

The first time I started the car, the piston stuck partway out and kept the
starter spinning until I disconnected the battery. It sounds like you are
having a similar experience. Unless you get lucky and the throw-out piston
is a physically separate part that can be bought, the fix is going to be a
new starter.

Meanwhile, if you can get to it, smacking the side of the starter with a
broom stick might jar it enough to make it disengage and stop.