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False Service Indicator Triggering
Wondering if any one else has experience something similar to the following. On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator light on my 2000 Honda CRV. I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 Sensor unit. On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service Indicator light came on. At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the Service Indicator was false from the get-go. I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates causing the same??? Thanks. Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed computer, and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. CaptainKrunch "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed computer, and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. CaptainKrunch "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed computer, and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. CaptainKrunch "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I
believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed computer, and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. CaptainKrunch "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
In article <nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com>,
ECB <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. There is no "service indicator". There's the MAINT REQD light, which is mileage based and indicates an oil change is due, and then there's the check engine light, which indicates a problem that needs immediate attention. Which one was it? |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
In article <nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com>,
ECB <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. There is no "service indicator". There's the MAINT REQD light, which is mileage based and indicates an oil change is due, and then there's the check engine light, which indicates a problem that needs immediate attention. Which one was it? |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
In article <nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com>,
ECB <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. There is no "service indicator". There's the MAINT REQD light, which is mileage based and indicates an oil change is due, and then there's the check engine light, which indicates a problem that needs immediate attention. Which one was it? |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
In article <nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com>,
ECB <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote: > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. There is no "service indicator". There's the MAINT REQD light, which is mileage based and indicates an oil change is due, and then there's the check engine light, which indicates a problem that needs immediate attention. Which one was it? |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing the problem he is describing. "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com... > I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I > believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. > > Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car > and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go > into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those > right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine > sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed > computer, > and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. > > CaptainKrunch > > > > "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > > to the following. > > > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > > Sensor unit. > > > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > > Indicator light came on. > > > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > > causing the same??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Ed B. > > |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing the problem he is describing. "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com... > I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I > believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. > > Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car > and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go > into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those > right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine > sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed > computer, > and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. > > CaptainKrunch > > > > "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > > to the following. > > > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > > Sensor unit. > > > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > > Indicator light came on. > > > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > > causing the same??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Ed B. > > |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing the problem he is describing. "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com... > I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I > believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. > > Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car > and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go > into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those > right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine > sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed > computer, > and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. > > CaptainKrunch > > > > "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > > to the following. > > > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > > Sensor unit. > > > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > > Indicator light came on. > > > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > > causing the same??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Ed B. > > |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
Just because things are "hard wired" doesn't mean they are necessarily
immune to external RF or magnetic fields. The security gate he mentions transmits RF to activate the circuitry in the card. It is not outside the realm of possibility that the RF is also triggering a spurious signal in one of the on-board processors in his car, causing the problem he is describing. "CaptainKrunch" <nothing@nobody.com> wrote in message news:bcKdnSaCsK_XeHCiRVn-uw@comcast.com... > I have not heard of that. Everything in in your car is hardwired, I > believe, and shouldn't be prey to stray radio signals. > > Perhaps as you left the airport the time period between starting your car > and arriving at the gate was such that the car had warmed up enough to go > into the closed loop mode from the open loop mode. ( I think I have those > right) After going into the new mode it then takes information from engine > sensors for engine management, as opposed to relying on the preprogrammed > computer, > and as such there was a fault that triggered the light. > > CaptainKrunch > > > > "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > > to the following. > > > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > > Sensor unit. > > > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > > Indicator light came on. > > > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > > causing the same??? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Ed B. > > |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
Re: False Service Indicator Triggering
You should take your car immediately to a dealer. They are the only ones who
are experienced enough to be able to deal with this problem. "ECB" <avee8or@verizon.net> wrote in message news:nrmruv8uab15d09fn9b4c4arfhq8fj78qd@4ax.com... > > Wondering if any one else has experience something similar > to the following. > > On 12/22 I drove through the Security gate at the local airport > (it's the type gate requiring a card to be placed against a reader > to trigger the gate open). As I drove I noticed the Service Indicator > light on my 2000 Honda CRV. > > I ended up paying more than $300 for the replacement of the O2 > Sensor unit. > > On 12/27 I drove to the airport again .... after exiting the airport > through the security gate .... you guessed it ... the Service > Indicator light came on. > > At this writing I am convincing the auto service establishment > that the original O2 Sensor did not have to be replaced as the > Service Indicator was false from the get-go. > > I have heard that some cell phones and radar detector units can > trigger Service Indicators .... anyone heard of Security Gates > causing the same??? > > Thanks. > > Ed B. |
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