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Stephen Bigelow 02-09-2004 09:45 AM

Re: fuel economy
 

"Cory Dunkle" <cadnews@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fTMVb.20712$IF1.12450@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> Also, avoid lugging the engine, as this
> will put tons of stress on your bearings and significantly decrease the

life
> of the engine if done frequently.


Very true, if you drive a roller bearing Porsche from the 50's.



Stephen Bigelow 02-09-2004 09:45 AM

Re: fuel economy
 

"Cory Dunkle" <cadnews@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:fTMVb.20712$IF1.12450@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> Also, avoid lugging the engine, as this
> will put tons of stress on your bearings and significantly decrease the

life
> of the engine if done frequently.


Very true, if you drive a roller bearing Porsche from the 50's.



T. Nelson 02-09-2004 07:37 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
In article <402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au>
wrote:

> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already in
> 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>
> any advice and help?
>
> Sandro


Sandro,
Since you are worried about petrol--I suggest that you buy a Civic
Hybrid--you would really enjoy watching the fancy instruments that allow
you to keep track of your petrol per gallon.

If you plan to keep your present vehicle, I advise you to check your
petrol miles per gallon while driving one fashion over a road that that
you travel on a regular basis. During the following week or month, test
your petrol miles per gallon by driving a different fashion over that same
road. Eventually, you will figure out the best way to save petrol.

T. Nelson 02-09-2004 07:37 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
In article <402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au>
wrote:

> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already in
> 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>
> any advice and help?
>
> Sandro


Sandro,
Since you are worried about petrol--I suggest that you buy a Civic
Hybrid--you would really enjoy watching the fancy instruments that allow
you to keep track of your petrol per gallon.

If you plan to keep your present vehicle, I advise you to check your
petrol miles per gallon while driving one fashion over a road that that
you travel on a regular basis. During the following week or month, test
your petrol miles per gallon by driving a different fashion over that same
road. Eventually, you will figure out the best way to save petrol.

T. Nelson 02-09-2004 07:37 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
In article <402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au>
wrote:

> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already in
> 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>
> any advice and help?
>
> Sandro


Sandro,
Since you are worried about petrol--I suggest that you buy a Civic
Hybrid--you would really enjoy watching the fancy instruments that allow
you to keep track of your petrol per gallon.

If you plan to keep your present vehicle, I advise you to check your
petrol miles per gallon while driving one fashion over a road that that
you travel on a regular basis. During the following week or month, test
your petrol miles per gallon by driving a different fashion over that same
road. Eventually, you will figure out the best way to save petrol.

T. Nelson 02-09-2004 07:37 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
In article <402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au>
wrote:

> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already in
> 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>
> any advice and help?
>
> Sandro


Sandro,
Since you are worried about petrol--I suggest that you buy a Civic
Hybrid--you would really enjoy watching the fancy instruments that allow
you to keep track of your petrol per gallon.

If you plan to keep your present vehicle, I advise you to check your
petrol miles per gallon while driving one fashion over a road that that
you travel on a regular basis. During the following week or month, test
your petrol miles per gallon by driving a different fashion over that same
road. Eventually, you will figure out the best way to save petrol.

L Alpert 02-09-2004 09:46 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
agent smith wrote:
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
>> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im
>> already in 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>>
>> any advice and help?
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>>

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this
> theory on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the
> engine in 5th at speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it
> must work that much harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or
> 3rd), thus resulting in more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at
> about 20, 3rd at about 40, and 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65
> or so, depending on my mood... this is in MPH btw. in both my cars,
> ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90 miles from austin) with
> only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on the highway in
> both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip weekly and
> have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of time to
> run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith


There is no sense putting the engine in an RPM that has too low of a torque
to move the vehicle. You will end up using more gas.

Note the curves on the graph that shows the amount of torque output per RPM
of the engine. The torque is what you need.
http://dynoperformance.com/about.php



L Alpert 02-09-2004 09:46 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
agent smith wrote:
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
>> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im
>> already in 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>>
>> any advice and help?
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>>

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this
> theory on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the
> engine in 5th at speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it
> must work that much harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or
> 3rd), thus resulting in more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at
> about 20, 3rd at about 40, and 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65
> or so, depending on my mood... this is in MPH btw. in both my cars,
> ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90 miles from austin) with
> only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on the highway in
> both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip weekly and
> have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of time to
> run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith


There is no sense putting the engine in an RPM that has too low of a torque
to move the vehicle. You will end up using more gas.

Note the curves on the graph that shows the amount of torque output per RPM
of the engine. The torque is what you need.
http://dynoperformance.com/about.php



L Alpert 02-09-2004 09:46 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
agent smith wrote:
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
>> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im
>> already in 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>>
>> any advice and help?
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>>

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this
> theory on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the
> engine in 5th at speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it
> must work that much harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or
> 3rd), thus resulting in more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at
> about 20, 3rd at about 40, and 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65
> or so, depending on my mood... this is in MPH btw. in both my cars,
> ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90 miles from austin) with
> only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on the highway in
> both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip weekly and
> have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of time to
> run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith


There is no sense putting the engine in an RPM that has too low of a torque
to move the vehicle. You will end up using more gas.

Note the curves on the graph that shows the amount of torque output per RPM
of the engine. The torque is what you need.
http://dynoperformance.com/about.php



L Alpert 02-09-2004 09:46 PM

Re: fuel economy
 
agent smith wrote:
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
>> hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
>> decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im
>> already in 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
>>
>> any advice and help?
>>
>> Sandro
>>
>>

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this
> theory on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the
> engine in 5th at speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it
> must work that much harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or
> 3rd), thus resulting in more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at
> about 20, 3rd at about 40, and 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65
> or so, depending on my mood... this is in MPH btw. in both my cars,
> ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90 miles from austin) with
> only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on the highway in
> both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip weekly and
> have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of time to
> run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith


There is no sense putting the engine in an RPM that has too low of a torque
to move the vehicle. You will end up using more gas.

Note the curves on the graph that shows the amount of torque output per RPM
of the engine. The torque is what you need.
http://dynoperformance.com/about.php



Sandro 02-11-2004 08:03 AM

Re: fuel economy
 
at what rpm should i change gears? at 3000rpm? or 4000rpm? what i ideal? is
it bad to keep changing at rpm which are too high? such as 5000rpm??
"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:DzGVb.11006$we.2882@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> > decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already

> in
> > 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
> >
> > any advice and help?
> >
> > Sandro
> >
> >

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this

theory
> on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the engine in 5th

at
> speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it must work that much
> harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or 3rd), thus resulting in
> more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at about 20, 3rd at about 40,

and
> 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65 or so, depending on my mood... this
> is in MPH btw. in both my cars, ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90
> miles from austin) with only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on
> the highway in both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip
> weekly and have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of

time
> to run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith
>
>




Sandro 02-11-2004 08:03 AM

Re: fuel economy
 
at what rpm should i change gears? at 3000rpm? or 4000rpm? what i ideal? is
it bad to keep changing at rpm which are too high? such as 5000rpm??
"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:DzGVb.11006$we.2882@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> > decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already

> in
> > 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
> >
> > any advice and help?
> >
> > Sandro
> >
> >

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this

theory
> on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the engine in 5th

at
> speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it must work that much
> harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or 3rd), thus resulting in
> more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at about 20, 3rd at about 40,

and
> 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65 or so, depending on my mood... this
> is in MPH btw. in both my cars, ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90
> miles from austin) with only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on
> the highway in both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip
> weekly and have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of

time
> to run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith
>
>




Sandro 02-11-2004 08:03 AM

Re: fuel economy
 
at what rpm should i change gears? at 3000rpm? or 4000rpm? what i ideal? is
it bad to keep changing at rpm which are too high? such as 5000rpm??
"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:DzGVb.11006$we.2882@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> > decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already

> in
> > 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
> >
> > any advice and help?
> >
> > Sandro
> >
> >

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this

theory
> on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the engine in 5th

at
> speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it must work that much
> harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or 3rd), thus resulting in
> more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at about 20, 3rd at about 40,

and
> 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65 or so, depending on my mood... this
> is in MPH btw. in both my cars, ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90
> miles from austin) with only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on
> the highway in both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip
> weekly and have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of

time
> to run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith
>
>




Sandro 02-11-2004 08:03 AM

Re: fuel economy
 
at what rpm should i change gears? at 3000rpm? or 4000rpm? what i ideal? is
it bad to keep changing at rpm which are too high? such as 5000rpm??
"agent smith" <agentsmith@UNDIES.the-c0re.tk> wrote in message
news:DzGVb.11006$we.2882@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au> wrote in message
> news:402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> > hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> > decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already

> in
> > 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
> >
> > any advice and help?
> >
> > Sandro
> >
> >

>
> thats like what... 40mph? thatll waste more gas IMO. ive tested this

theory
> on my daewoo(2000 lanos S) and my CRX (87 HF). running the engine in 5th

at
> speeds that low puts more stress on the engine (it must work that much
> harder to accellerate in 5th as opposed to 4th or 3rd), thus resulting in
> more fuel wasted. i usually shift into 2nd at about 20, 3rd at about 40,

and
> 4th at about 60. 5th comes at about 65 or so, depending on my mood... this
> is in MPH btw. in both my cars, ive made the trip to san antonio (about 90
> miles from austin) with only 1/8th of the tank gone (gettin about 50mpg on
> the highway in both cars.. more in the daewoo at times). i make this trip
> weekly and have been doing so for quite some time, so ive had plenty of

time
> to run many theory tests. HTH!
>
>
> -agent smith
>
>




Sandro 02-11-2004 08:03 AM

Re: fuel economy
 
is it bad to keep changing at rpm which are too high? such as 5000rpm??


"T. Nelson" <tnelson@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:tnelson-0902041637560001@pm1-broad-102.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <402727e4_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, "Sandro" <Sandro@Home.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > hey all, i was wondering, would changing gears while the revs r lower
> > decrease the amount of petrol your using? when im low on fuel im already

in
> > 5th gear when im going 60km/h.
> >
> > any advice and help?
> >
> > Sandro

>
> Sandro,
> Since you are worried about petrol--I suggest that you buy a Civic
> Hybrid--you would really enjoy watching the fancy instruments that allow
> you to keep track of your petrol per gallon.
>
> If you plan to keep your present vehicle, I advise you to check your
> petrol miles per gallon while driving one fashion over a road that that
> you travel on a regular basis. During the following week or month, test
> your petrol miles per gallon by driving a different fashion over that same
> road. Eventually, you will figure out the best way to save petrol.





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