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fuel system additives
Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner
additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost to do this? Does it make a difference? |
Re: fuel system additives
<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... > Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? What have you found the results to be over the period of time that you have been using the additives? Do you believe that your vehicle has performed better? Have you spent less money on fuel? |
Re: fuel system additives
<bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... > Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? What have you found the results to be over the period of time that you have been using the additives? Do you believe that your vehicle has performed better? Have you spent less money on fuel? |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? yes, that's why it's mandated by federal law. > I know they have cleaners in gas, there is a federal minimum. but different brands vary from that, in some cases up to five times the minimum. > but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > if you're having injector problems, yes. if you buy cheap gas, most definitely. once every 3 months or so is fine. |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? yes, that's why it's mandated by federal law. > I know they have cleaners in gas, there is a federal minimum. but different brands vary from that, in some cases up to five times the minimum. > but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > if you're having injector problems, yes. if you buy cheap gas, most definitely. once every 3 months or so is fine. |
Re: fuel system additives
A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
.. Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by American Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector malfunction, the faulty injector should be replaced. Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur. <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... > Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > |
Re: fuel system additives
A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website:
.. Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by American Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector malfunction, the faulty injector should be replaced. Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur. <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... > Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > |
Re: fuel system additives
Howard wrote:
> A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website: > . Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by > American > Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair > procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector > malfunction, the > faulty injector should be replaced. > Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur. the after-market cleaning/flushing sold by monkey-lube outfits /is/ unnecessary and it /can/ cause problems just like they say. but adding detergent to your gas sufficient to clean injectors, as is frequently cited here when people have "flooded" start problems, is a good idea and it doesn't harm o-rings or seals. > <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? >> > |
Re: fuel system additives
Howard wrote:
> A direct quote from Honda's internal dealer website: > . Fuel injection (induction) cleaning/flushing is not recommended by > American > Honda. This is an unnecessary maintenance procedure and an improper repair > procedure. If a Honda vehicle is experiencing a fuel injector > malfunction, the > faulty injector should be replaced. > Injector O-ring and seal damage can occur. the after-market cleaning/flushing sold by monkey-lube outfits /is/ unnecessary and it /can/ cause problems just like they say. but adding detergent to your gas sufficient to clean injectors, as is frequently cited here when people have "flooded" start problems, is a good idea and it doesn't harm o-rings or seals. > <bigjcw1023@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1191160114.749332.127130@g4g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com... >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? >> > |
Re: fuel system additives
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
>Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >to do this? Does it make a difference? Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use. |
Re: fuel system additives
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
>Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >to do this? Does it make a difference? Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use. |
Re: fuel system additives
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? > > Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto > manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use. but additives are vital. the car manufacturers that "don't recommend or suggest their use" /do/ however seem very anxious to ensure that crappy gas that gums up fuel lines, leaves deposits in injectors, fouls intake valves and carbons up the combustion chamber is not misinterpreted as being /their/ fault. http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html |
Re: fuel system additives
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 06:48:34 -0700, bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? > > Nothing but 'snake oil'. As far as I know there are no auto > manufacturers who recommend or suggest their use. but additives are vital. the car manufacturers that "don't recommend or suggest their use" /do/ however seem very anxious to ensure that crappy gas that gums up fuel lines, leaves deposits in injectors, fouls intake valves and carbons up the combustion chamber is not misinterpreted as being /their/ fault. http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > Hi, Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > to do this? Does it make a difference? > Hi, Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. |
Re: fuel system additives
Tony Hwang wrote:
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote: >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? >> > Hi, > Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? |
Re: fuel system additives
Tony Hwang wrote:
> bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote: >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >> to do this? Does it make a difference? >> > Hi, > Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? |
Re: fuel system additives
On Oct 1, 8:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote: > > bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > >> to do this? Does it make a difference? > > > Hi, > > Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. > > wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? I use STP gas treatment. I maybe get another mile or twoper gallon out of that tank, so the cost is a wash. I also heard once a few years back that if you floor your vehicle it will "blast" the injectors clean. Is this true or myth as well? |
Re: fuel system additives
On Oct 1, 8:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote: > > bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner > >> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one > >> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost > >> to do this? Does it make a difference? > > > Hi, > > Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. > > wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? I use STP gas treatment. I maybe get another mile or twoper gallon out of that tank, so the cost is a wash. I also heard once a few years back that if you floor your vehicle it will "blast" the injectors clean. Is this true or myth as well? |
Re: fuel system additives
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> > http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html For some reason, the 'Top Tier' labels on the Shell gas pumps have disappeared in this area (south of Chicago). I don't know if this means that Shell dropped the program, or just in this area, or they just don't want to keep answering 'what's that sticker on the pump' questions. |
Re: fuel system additives
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> > http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html For some reason, the 'Top Tier' labels on the Shell gas pumps have disappeared in this area (south of Chicago). I don't know if this means that Shell dropped the program, or just in this area, or they just don't want to keep answering 'what's that sticker on the pump' questions. |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote: >> Tony Hwang wrote: >>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >>>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >>>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >>>> to do this? Does it make a difference? >>> Hi, >>> Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. >> wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? > > I use STP gas treatment. I maybe get another mile or twoper gallon > out of that tank, so the cost is a wash. I also heard once a few > years back that if you floor your vehicle it will "blast" the > injectors clean. Is this true or myth as well? > myth. injectors are constant pressure. all max injection does is make them open for longer, and that's not going to clear anything multiple short injections won't do. |
Re: fuel system additives
bigjcw1023@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 1, 8:49 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote: >> Tony Hwang wrote: >>> bigjcw1...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Is there a necessity for those fuel injector cleaner/system cleaner >>>> additives? I know they have cleaners in gas, but I usually put one >>>> bottle in at each oil change, full tank. Is it worth the extra cost >>>> to do this? Does it make a difference? >>> Hi, >>> Be careful, you may destroy catalytic converter. >> wow, what is this thread??? an urban legend competition? > > I use STP gas treatment. I maybe get another mile or twoper gallon > out of that tank, so the cost is a wash. I also heard once a few > years back that if you floor your vehicle it will "blast" the > injectors clean. Is this true or myth as well? > myth. injectors are constant pressure. all max injection does is make them open for longer, and that's not going to clear anything multiple short injections won't do. |
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