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jim beam 07-18-2008 01:02 AM

guess the mileage
 
here's my last oil analysis:

aluminum 3
chromium 1
iron 23
copper 6
lead 2
tin 0

cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
insolubles 0.3%

what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.

Joe 07-18-2008 03:59 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
On 2008-07-18, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.


Mobil1 Full Synthetic, 12,000 miles...


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Al 07-18-2008 06:53 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
jim beam wrote:
> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.


12,853 - Castrol GTX






Dan C 07-18-2008 08:57 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:02:57 -0700, jim beam wrote:

> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.


2,850 miles, Pennzoil.


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Just Me 07-18-2008 09:36 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:PcidnVtGcuGOuR3VnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.

1,230 - Amzoil ;-)


Dano58 07-18-2008 10:09 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
On Jul 18, 1:02 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....

Dan D
'07 Ody EX
Central NJ USA

jim beam 07-19-2008 11:34 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
jim beam wrote:
> here's my last oil analysis:
>
> aluminum 3
> chromium 1
> iron 23
> copper 6
> lead 2
> tin 0
>
> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
> insolubles 0.3%
>
> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.


well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to ascertain, it
was indeed 12k miles. full credits to to them, especially to joe who
got the oil right, but i award a "good effort" to al for castrol since
that is my #2 choice.

those numbers are pretty darned good btw, and if you care to check other
analysis figures from other engine types others have posted around the
web, you'll realize that honda make a darned freakin' good engine based
on the iron content. iron is mostly cam wear and numbers in the
hundreds are not uncommon for other makes of engine.

expanding further on the iron thing, the main reason i got this analysis
done this time was because a couple of years ago, i had to do a quickie
head gasket change, and simply didn't have the time to practice proper
cleanliness. the cam got some grit on it, and thus got some big old
scrape marks on it as some grit particles got trapped and dragged on
around the lobes. i changed the oil again the following weekend, and
left it thinking this would be my opportunity to go for a jdm motor
change in the not too distant. well, here we are running mobil 1 a
couple of changes later, the motor still runs like a champ, and the cam
lobes look exactly identical, all scraped up!!! with a normal oil, i
would have expected the worst of it to have worn down by now as part of
the normal overall abrasion process. however, it appears that wear,
even on these uneven surfaces, is absolutely minute. great oil - i
recommend it.

jim beam 07-19-2008 11:38 AM

Re: guess the mileage
 
jim beam wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>
>> aluminum 3
>> chromium 1
>> iron 23
>> copper 6
>> lead 2
>> tin 0
>>
>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>> insolubles 0.3%
>>
>> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand of oil.

>
> well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to ascertain, it
> was indeed 12k miles. full credits to to them, especially to joe who
> got the oil right, but i award a "good effort" to al for castrol since
> that is my #2 choice.
>
> those numbers are pretty darned good btw, and if you care to check other
> analysis figures from other engine types others have posted around the
> web, you'll realize that honda make a darned freakin' good engine based
> on the iron content. iron is mostly cam wear and numbers in the
> hundreds are not uncommon for other makes of engine.
>
> expanding further on the iron thing, the main reason i got this analysis
> done this time was because a couple of years ago, i had to do a quickie
> head gasket change, and simply didn't have the time to practice proper
> cleanliness. the cam got some grit on it, and thus got some big old
> scrape marks on it as some grit particles got trapped and dragged on
> around the lobes. i changed the oil again the following weekend, and
> left it thinking this would be my opportunity to go for a jdm motor
> change in the not too distant. well, here we are running mobil 1 a
> couple of changes later, the motor still runs like a champ, and the cam
> lobes look exactly identical, all scraped up!!! with a normal oil, i
> would have expected the worst of it to have worn down by now as part of
> the normal overall abrasion process. however, it appears that wear,


as confirmed by the oil analysis,

> even on these uneven surfaces, is absolutely minute. great oil - i
> recommend it.


Elle 07-19-2008 01:21 PM

Re: guess the mileage
 
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> jim beam wrote:
>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>
>> aluminum 3
>> chromium 1
>> iron 23
>> copper 6
>> lead 2
>> tin 0
>>
>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>> insolubles 0.3%
>>
>> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand
>> of oil.

>
> well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to
> ascertain, it was indeed 12k miles.


What is it you claim tells a person that the interval was
12k miles?

I looked at some of the Blackstone Lab reports for Hondas.
What seems most telling about how the engine is doing are
(1) how the analysis changes from one oil change to the next
(for the given mileage interval) and (2) how the analysis
compares to the universal averages for a set interval.



Elle 07-19-2008 01:21 PM

Re: guess the mileage
 
"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
> jim beam wrote:
>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>
>> aluminum 3
>> chromium 1
>> iron 23
>> copper 6
>> lead 2
>> tin 0
>>
>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>> insolubles 0.3%
>>
>> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand
>> of oil.

>
> well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to
> ascertain, it was indeed 12k miles.


What is it you claim tells a person that the interval was
12k miles?

I looked at some of the Blackstone Lab reports for Hondas.
What seems most telling about how the engine is doing are
(1) how the analysis changes from one oil change to the next
(for the given mileage interval) and (2) how the analysis
compares to the universal averages for a set interval.



Joe 07-19-2008 03:59 PM

Re: guess the mileage
 
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.autos.honda.]
On 2008-07-19, Elle <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>> jim beam wrote:
>>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>>
>>> aluminum 3
>>> chromium 1
>>> iron 23
>>> copper 6
>>> lead 2
>>> tin 0
>>>
>>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>>> insolubles 0.3%
>>>
>>> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand
>>> of oil.

>>
>> well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to
>> ascertain, it was indeed 12k miles.

>
> What is it you claim tells a person that the interval was
> 12k miles?


Because he has stated numerous times that he changes oil at 12K, with
Mobil1 Full Synth. This I can remember, but don't ask me my wife's
birthday... ;-)

>
> I looked at some of the Blackstone Lab reports for Hondas.
> What seems most telling about how the engine is doing are
> (1) how the analysis changes from one oil change to the next
> (for the given mileage interval) and (2) how the analysis
> compares to the universal averages for a set interval.
>
>



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jim beam 07-19-2008 05:16 PM

Re: guess the mileage
 
Joe wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.autos.honda.]
> On 2008-07-19, Elle <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote:
>> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote
>>> jim beam wrote:
>>>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>>>
>>>> aluminum 3
>>>> chromium 1
>>>> iron 23
>>>> copper 6
>>>> lead 2
>>>> tin 0
>>>>
>>>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>>>> insolubles 0.3%
>>>>
>>>> what was my change interval? bonus points for the brand
>>>> of oil.
>>> well, as the keen students of google were quickly able to
>>> ascertain, it was indeed 12k miles.

>> What is it you claim tells a person that the interval was
>> 12k miles?

>
> Because he has stated numerous times that he changes oil at 12K, with
> Mobil1 Full Synth.


indeed.


> This I can remember, but don't ask me my wife's
> birthday... ;-)
>
>> I looked at some of the Blackstone Lab reports for Hondas.
>> What seems most telling about how the engine is doing are
>> (1) how the analysis changes from one oil change to the next
>> (for the given mileage interval) and (2) how the analysis
>> compares to the universal averages for a set interval.
>>


elle, 1. learn to filter out the sell - it's not necessary to analyze
every time [unless perhaps you're on the extreme end of a longevity
experiment]. 2. just accept that absolute values are highly important.
thanks.

Mark G. 07-23-2008 06:38 PM

Re: guess the mileage
 
"Joe" <joe@nospam.hits-buffalo.com> wrote:

> On 2008-07-18, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> here's my last oil analysis:
>>
>> aluminum 3
>> chromium 1
>> iron 23
>> copper 6
>> lead 2
>> tin 0
>>
>> cSt viscosity at 100C 10.18
>> insolubles 0.3%


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