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Joan 08-04-2004 11:56 AM

heat break window
 
We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
other vehicles before.

Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
heat.

I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
in the past with never a window busted from the heat.

Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
Just wondering

thanks

Joan



Caroline 08-04-2004 12:06 PM

Re: heat break window
 
I was curious and so group.googled for {window heat break car}. See, for
starters, the first two threads at

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=wi...ie=UTF-8&hl=en

It apparently does happen often enough that I'd be inclined to believe heat can
do this (via several possible mechanisms, ranging from a flaw to temperature
differentials from edge to center, to maybe water splattering on a hot car
window... )

"Joan" <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote
> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering




Caroline 08-04-2004 12:06 PM

Re: heat break window
 
I was curious and so group.googled for {window heat break car}. See, for
starters, the first two threads at

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=wi...ie=UTF-8&hl=en

It apparently does happen often enough that I'd be inclined to believe heat can
do this (via several possible mechanisms, ranging from a flaw to temperature
differentials from edge to center, to maybe water splattering on a hot car
window... )

"Joan" <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote
> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering




Bill 08-04-2004 03:35 PM

Re: heat break window
 
In article <XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink .net>, "Joan"
<rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:

>We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
>when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
>other vehicles before.
>
>Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
>went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
>find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
>and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
>taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
>heat.
>
>I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
>in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
>Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
>heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
>Just wondering
>
>thanks
>
>Joan


I've only seen 2 windshields that broke from heat. They were both
"crystallized" appearing vs "cracks. Not sure how side windows would
appear however.
I always leave my windows cracked a little bit open when the car is
sitting in the sun. I feel extreme heat is detrimental to the plastic etc.
interior parts.

Bill 08-04-2004 03:35 PM

Re: heat break window
 
In article <XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink .net>, "Joan"
<rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:

>We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
>when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
>other vehicles before.
>
>Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
>went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
>find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
>and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
>taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
>heat.
>
>I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
>in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
>Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
>heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
>Just wondering
>
>thanks
>
>Joan


I've only seen 2 windshields that broke from heat. They were both
"crystallized" appearing vs "cracks. Not sure how side windows would
appear however.
I always leave my windows cracked a little bit open when the car is
sitting in the sun. I feel extreme heat is detrimental to the plastic etc.
interior parts.

starboy869 08-04-2004 03:43 PM

Re: heat break window
 
I had this happen to a toyota I once owned.



"Bill" <bkapaun@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:bkapaun-0408041235300001@dialup-ras24-61.eug.or.uspops.net...
> In article <XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink .net>, "Joan"
> <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> >We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was

replaced
> >when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened

with
> >other vehicles before.
> >
> >Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> >went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. )

to
> >find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely

busted
> >and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> >taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> >heat.
> >
> >I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not

Honda's )
> >in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
> >
> >Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in

extreme
> >heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to

crack??
> >Just wondering
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Joan

>
> I've only seen 2 windshields that broke from heat. They were both
> "crystallized" appearing vs "cracks. Not sure how side windows would
> appear however.
> I always leave my windows cracked a little bit open when the car is
> sitting in the sun. I feel extreme heat is detrimental to the plastic etc.
> interior parts.




starboy869 08-04-2004 03:43 PM

Re: heat break window
 
I had this happen to a toyota I once owned.



"Bill" <bkapaun@coldmail.com> wrote in message
news:bkapaun-0408041235300001@dialup-ras24-61.eug.or.uspops.net...
> In article <XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink .net>, "Joan"
> <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> >We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was

replaced
> >when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened

with
> >other vehicles before.
> >
> >Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> >went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. )

to
> >find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely

busted
> >and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> >taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> >heat.
> >
> >I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not

Honda's )
> >in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
> >
> >Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in

extreme
> >heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to

crack??
> >Just wondering
> >
> >thanks
> >
> >Joan

>
> I've only seen 2 windshields that broke from heat. They were both
> "crystallized" appearing vs "cracks. Not sure how side windows would
> appear however.
> I always leave my windows cracked a little bit open when the car is
> sitting in the sun. I feel extreme heat is detrimental to the plastic etc.
> interior parts.




E. Meyer 08-04-2004 06:24 PM

Re: heat break window
 
On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
<rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:

> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering
>
> thanks
>
> Joan
>
>


Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car, somebody
broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it could have been
blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all that hot.


E. Meyer 08-04-2004 06:24 PM

Re: heat break window
 
On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
<rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:

> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering
>
> thanks
>
> Joan
>
>


Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car, somebody
broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it could have been
blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all that hot.


Jim Yanik 08-04-2004 09:00 PM

Re: heat break window
 
"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in
news:BD36CC6A.92B68%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org:

> On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
> XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
><rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was
>> replaced when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That
>> has happened with other vehicles before.
>>
>> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after
>> work I went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am
>> to 4 p.m. ) to find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark
>> glass ) completely busted and in splinters. I did call the cops
>> prior to the insurance co. Nothing taken out of the car and the
>> officer felt the window just busted from the heat.
>>
>> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not
>> Honda's ) in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>>
>> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in
>> extreme heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the
>> window to crack?? Just wondering
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Joan
>>
>>

>
> Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car,
> somebody broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it
> could have been blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all
> that hot.
>
>


Tinted window;it probably all held together.(it should have,window film on
glass acts just like a laminated windshield)
When thieves broke into a neighbors car,they had to pull the glass out of
the door after 'smashing' it,as it mostly stayed in one big piece,they left
it laying on the ground.

Someone could have throw a rock at it,or used a centerpunch,it might just
have been vandalism.Some people do not respect other's property.

I've also heard of thieves busting car windows that had dark tints just to
see IF there's anything inside worth stealing,as the dark tint prevents
easily checking for items.Called police on a guy breaking a car window in
my apt.complex,dark tinted windows,turns out the car was a junker,didn't
even have a steering wheel on the column,and the thief never got into the
car because the window held together.Nothing to steal in it,either.

The cops did not get there in time to catch him,though.;-(
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 08-04-2004 09:00 PM

Re: heat break window
 
"E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in
news:BD36CC6A.92B68%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org:

> On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
> XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
><rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was
>> replaced when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That
>> has happened with other vehicles before.
>>
>> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after
>> work I went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am
>> to 4 p.m. ) to find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark
>> glass ) completely busted and in splinters. I did call the cops
>> prior to the insurance co. Nothing taken out of the car and the
>> officer felt the window just busted from the heat.
>>
>> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not
>> Honda's ) in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>>
>> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in
>> extreme heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the
>> window to crack?? Just wondering
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Joan
>>
>>

>
> Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car,
> somebody broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it
> could have been blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all
> that hot.
>
>


Tinted window;it probably all held together.(it should have,window film on
glass acts just like a laminated windshield)
When thieves broke into a neighbors car,they had to pull the glass out of
the door after 'smashing' it,as it mostly stayed in one big piece,they left
it laying on the ground.

Someone could have throw a rock at it,or used a centerpunch,it might just
have been vandalism.Some people do not respect other's property.

I've also heard of thieves busting car windows that had dark tints just to
see IF there's anything inside worth stealing,as the dark tint prevents
easily checking for items.Called police on a guy breaking a car window in
my apt.complex,dark tinted windows,turns out the car was a junker,didn't
even have a steering wheel on the column,and the thief never got into the
car because the window held together.Nothing to steal in it,either.

The cops did not get there in time to catch him,though.;-(
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

motsco_ _ 08-04-2004 11:34 PM

Re: heat break window
 
Joan wrote:
> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering
>
> thanks
>
> Joan
>

===========================

Joan, your car can't 'blow out' the windows because it's not an air-tite
vessel. The groundskeeper probably hit a patch of gravel and his riding
mower threw one pebble at yor window at high speed. Happens in
residential neighborhoods every evening, all summer. :-(

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 08-04-2004 11:34 PM

Re: heat break window
 
Joan wrote:
> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was replaced
> when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That has happened with
> other vehicles before.
>
> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after work I
> went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am to 4 p.m. ) to
> find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark glass ) completely busted
> and in splinters. I did call the cops prior to the insurance co. Nothing
> taken out of the car and the officer felt the window just busted from the
> heat.
>
> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not Honda's )
> in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>
> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in extreme
> heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the window to crack??
> Just wondering
>
> thanks
>
> Joan
>

===========================

Joan, your car can't 'blow out' the windows because it's not an air-tite
vessel. The groundskeeper probably hit a patch of gravel and his riding
mower threw one pebble at yor window at high speed. Happens in
residential neighborhoods every evening, all summer. :-(

'Curly'


E. Meyer 08-05-2004 09:23 AM

Re: heat break window
 
On 8/4/04 8:00 PM, in article Xns953BD5D7A39CAjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21,
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in
> news:BD36CC6A.92B68%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org:
>
>> On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
>> XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
>> <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was
>>> replaced when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That
>>> has happened with other vehicles before.
>>>
>>> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after
>>> work I went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am
>>> to 4 p.m. ) to find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark
>>> glass ) completely busted and in splinters. I did call the cops
>>> prior to the insurance co. Nothing taken out of the car and the
>>> officer felt the window just busted from the heat.
>>>
>>> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not
>>> Honda's ) in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>>>
>>> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in
>>> extreme heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the
>>> window to crack?? Just wondering
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Joan
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car,
>> somebody broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it
>> could have been blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all
>> that hot.
>>
>>

>
> Tinted window;it probably all held together.(it should have,window film on
> glass acts just like a laminated windshield)
> When thieves broke into a neighbors car,they had to pull the glass out of
> the door after 'smashing' it,as it mostly stayed in one big piece,they left
> it laying on the ground.
>
> Someone could have throw a rock at it,or used a centerpunch,it might just
> have been vandalism.Some people do not respect other's property.
>
> I've also heard of thieves busting car windows that had dark tints just to
> see IF there's anything inside worth stealing,as the dark tint prevents
> easily checking for items.Called police on a guy breaking a car window in
> my apt.complex,dark tinted windows,turns out the car was a junker,didn't
> even have a steering wheel on the column,and the thief never got into the
> car because the window held together.Nothing to steal in it,either.
>
> The cops did not get there in time to catch him,though.;-(


It makes a difference whether it has factory tint or the aftermarket film
sheet on it. When the thieves broke the factory tinted back side window on
my Mazda pickup with factory tint, the glass was mostly in the car. If it
has the tint film, them I agree with your logic - the film will tend to hold
it together.

A rock from a lawn mower or edger or vandal would fit the description given
by the OP.


E. Meyer 08-05-2004 09:23 AM

Re: heat break window
 
On 8/4/04 8:00 PM, in article Xns953BD5D7A39CAjyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21,
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:

> "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in
> news:BD36CC6A.92B68%e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org:
>
>> On 8/4/04 10:56 AM, in article
>> XG7Qc.10564$Jp6.7055@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net, "Joan"
>> <rosskat@pipeline.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We only had our Honda crv for a year now. The front windshield was
>>> replaced when a crack caused by a stone that hit the window. That
>>> has happened with other vehicles before.
>>>
>>> Now yesterday it was high 80's and very humid heat -----after
>>> work I went to the car ( sitting in employee parking lot from 6 am
>>> to 4 p.m. ) to find the 2nd side passenger window ( tinted dark
>>> glass ) completely busted and in splinters. I did call the cops
>>> prior to the insurance co. Nothing taken out of the car and the
>>> officer felt the window just busted from the heat.
>>>
>>> I was wondering how often that happens.? I have other cars ( not
>>> Honda's ) in the past with never a window busted from the heat.
>>>
>>> Any similar experience? And should one keep windows open a crack in
>>> extreme heat. ? Or would turning on the AC in a hot car cause the
>>> window to crack?? Just wondering
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Joan
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Where was the broken glass? If it was mostly inside of the car,
>> somebody broke your window. If it was mostly outside the car, it
>> could have been blown out by the heat, but high 80's isn't really all
>> that hot.
>>
>>

>
> Tinted window;it probably all held together.(it should have,window film on
> glass acts just like a laminated windshield)
> When thieves broke into a neighbors car,they had to pull the glass out of
> the door after 'smashing' it,as it mostly stayed in one big piece,they left
> it laying on the ground.
>
> Someone could have throw a rock at it,or used a centerpunch,it might just
> have been vandalism.Some people do not respect other's property.
>
> I've also heard of thieves busting car windows that had dark tints just to
> see IF there's anything inside worth stealing,as the dark tint prevents
> easily checking for items.Called police on a guy breaking a car window in
> my apt.complex,dark tinted windows,turns out the car was a junker,didn't
> even have a steering wheel on the column,and the thief never got into the
> car because the window held together.Nothing to steal in it,either.
>
> The cops did not get there in time to catch him,though.;-(


It makes a difference whether it has factory tint or the aftermarket film
sheet on it. When the thieves broke the factory tinted back side window on
my Mazda pickup with factory tint, the glass was mostly in the car. If it
has the tint film, them I agree with your logic - the film will tend to hold
it together.

A rock from a lawn mower or edger or vandal would fit the description given
by the OP.



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